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Airlines whipsawed by costly fuel, Japan disaster

Travel Mar. 23, 2011 - 06:04AM JST ( 16 )

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harukaMar. 23, 2011 - 07:27AM JST

I need to book a summer flight but not sure how to approach it. Will prices drop in a month from now? We need more information.
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rainman1Mar. 23, 2011 - 08:04AM JST

@haruka: Is that all you can think about right now? Saving 20,000 yen on the price of a holiday?
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KingSaintMar. 23, 2011 - 08:47AM JST

has anyone else heard of the term "whipsawed" before?
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asianTouristMar. 23, 2011 - 08:47AM JST

If airliners can fill up all seats on each flight, they can make a profit. But now they need to share flight codes or share seats to improve their cost-based sales revenue goals. On a vacation plan, people usually book in advance to save money ... If we can estimate both benefits
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miamumMar. 23, 2011 - 08:59AM JST

has anyone else heard of the term "whipsawed" before?

I was thinking that - what does it mean??!
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whiskeysourMar. 23, 2011 - 09:06AM JST

what does this article mean or suggest ??? Hmmmm, so the ticket price will be added $1000.00 or Yen 100000 from your local JTB.
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SargeMar. 23, 2011 - 09:11AM JST

Southwest CEO Gary C Kelly: "We've had six fare increases so far this year... On the other hand our traffic has held up more than well - it's been very, very, strong."

Well, then, I guess Southwest is doing pretty darn tootin' well, no?

KingSaint - Shore, I've heard of "whipsawed" - it means you've been whipped and then sawed down!
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arrestpaulMar. 23, 2011 - 09:13AM JST

A "whipsaw" is a double-handled (two-man) crosscut saw for cutting down trees or sawing lumber.

"Whipsawed" usually means to take a double loss in a financial deal. Like buying stocks when their price is high and then being forced to sell them when the price is low.

The airlines are buying fuel at a currently high price but passing along those higher prices for tickets will reduce the numbers of customers who will fly.
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tajMar. 23, 2011 - 09:37AM JST

Thank you, arrestpaul. I also wondered at that word.
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sf2kMar. 23, 2011 - 10:05AM JST

as opposed to shellacked, nailed, whaled, zombified or circling the drain?
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flyingfishMar. 23, 2011 - 11:55AM JST

im presuming whipsawed =　bad ?
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miamumMar. 23, 2011 - 01:00PM JST

Ah, thank you arrestpaul.

@flyingflish, Ive never heard of the expression, but it certainly didnt sound good to me!
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saborichanMar. 23, 2011 - 09:35PM JST

just chiming in to say: whipsawed? wth?
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Cyborg009Mar. 24, 2011 - 12:58AM JST

Answering KingSaint question: According to Dictionary.reference.com:

–adjective Stock Exchange . subjected to a double loss, as when an investor has bought a stock at a high price soon before it declines and then, in order to make good the loss, sells it short before it advances.

No, I had never heard before.
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sensei258Mar. 24, 2011 - 05:04AM JST

First time I've ever heard that term too. Dictionary.com defines it as "to subject to two opposing forces at the same time" e.g. costly fuel and the disaster in this case.
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flyingfishMar. 24, 2011 - 08:48AM JST

whipsawed - Seated between two players who are constantly raising and re- raising each other's bets. This places the player in the position of having to choose whether or not to compete with the two players.