13 killed in Baghdad as Iraq marks Saddam's fall
BAGHDAD —
Fierce clashes and mortar attacks in Baghdad’s Shiite bastion of Sadr City killed 13 people on Wednesday as Iraq marked the fifth anniversary of the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
Iraqi officials said three mortar rounds slammed into Sadr City, the east Baghdad stronghold of anti-U.S. Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, killing at least seven people and wounding 24.
One of the three rounds struck the rooftop of a house where a family was having breakfast, killing an adult and two children.
Clashes in the sprawling Shiite district of some two million people in the early hours killed another six people and wounded at least 15, a medic said.
Sadr City has been wracked by renewed fighting between Sadr’s Mahdi Army militia and U.S. and Iraqi forces since Sunday. At least 55 people have died and scores more have been wounded.
The U.S. military says it is chasing “criminals” firing rockets into Baghdad and the heavily-fortified Green Zone where the Iraqi government and U.S. embassy are based.
On Wednesday, Baghdad’s streets were empty of cars and trucks after the authorities declared a 5 a.m. to midnight vehicle curfew to prevent car bomb attacks by Sunni insurgents.
Saddam’s hometown of Tikrit was also under a day-long curfew.
It took U.S. forces just three weeks to defeat Saddam’s forces and topple his regime on April 9, 2003.
On that day, U.S. Marines put a chain around the neck of a giant statue of Saddam in Baghdad’s Firdoos Square, pulling it down in an action that has come to symbolize the dictator’s overthrow.
A jubilant Iraqi crowd “insulted” the fallen statue by smacking its face with the soles of their shoes.
But five years on, the American military and Baghdad’s new Shiite-led government are still battling to curb the bloodshed that has killed tens of thousands of people and displaced more than four million.
Ibrahim Khalil, one of the Iraqis who pulled down the statue in Firdoos Square, said he regretted what he did that day.
“If history can take me back, I will kiss the statue of Saddam Hussein which I helped pull down,” he said in the square.
“Now I realize that the day Baghdad fell was in fact a black day. Saddam’s days were better ... Under Saddam’s regime, we were safe. We got rid of one Saddam, but today we have 50 Saddams,” he said.
Crowds of Sunni Arabs chanting “No! No! to occupation”, held an anti-U.S. protests in Baghdad’s Adhamiyah district on Wednesday, although many Sunnis have now allied with the American military to fight al-Qaida in Iraq.
Fears of a resurgence in the violence are running deep after Sadr threatened on Tuesday to end the truce his feared Mahdi Army militia has been observing since August because of government attacks on his militiamen.
U.S. commanders acknowledge that the ceasefire was one of the factors behind a sharp drop in violence across Iraq in the second half of last year.
On Wednesday, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani urged Sadr to disband the militia.
“I hope they respond to the demand of all political factions to disband the Jaish al-Mahdi (Mahdi Army). We will take all efforts to convince them and we have decided to hold a meeting with them to discuss the issue,” Talabani said.
The U.S. Iraq commander, General David Petraeus, urged in testimony to Congress on Tuesday that further troop withdrawals be put off for at least 45 days after the pullout of last year’s troop reinforcements is completed in July.
Petraeus said the surge had helped make “significant but uneven” progress.
The White House said President George W Bush was expected to implement the recommendations of Petraeus.
In view of “the president’s practice of listening to his commanders on the ground, it would not be to type if he did not listen to them,” White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said in Washington.
For Iraqis, the five years since the ouster of Saddam have been a period of turmoil and bloodletting.
“When I saw the American tanks roll into Baghdad, I was happy and full of dreams… dreams of a prosperous Iraq, a developed Iraq. But since then it has become a nightmare of suffering and destruction,” said Sarah Yussef, 25.
According to World Health Organization, between 104,000 and 223,000 people were killed from March 2003 to June 2006 alone.
Majeed Hameed, a gift-shop owner in Baghdad’s northern Antar Square, said the American tanks on the streets of Baghdad are now seen as “enemy” forces.
“We can’t describe how savage these barbarians are whose promises were false and full of lies. They came to occupy and cause destruction. We got nothing but disaster,” said Hameed.
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GrouchyGaijin
Today's toll brings to 1,197,469 the number of Iraqis killed since the USSA blessed them with Jeffersonian democracy.
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jambon
Nothing like a little accuracy.
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GrouchyGaijin
Correct, Monsieur Jambon, that was nothing like a little accuracy. Check the REAL numbers: http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
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SezWho2
I don't think we know how many have been killed in Iraq. The Lancet figures, are significantly higher than the figures quoted from the WHO. I believe that official Iraqi government figures are lower than the high end of the WHO range.
Counting the dead amidst instability, confusion and mass migrations of people is not so easy. When you add to that the political interest in the count and the leverage that certain political interests can bear on the count, I doubt that there is any reliable number. The WHO number--compiled with the aid of the Iraqi government--is precise under the assumptions used in the estimate. So was the Lancet number.
The question, however, is not how precise any of the estimates are but whether any of them are accurate.
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GrouchyGaijin
The fog of war....but it might be a while before all that smoke clears!
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SuperLib
GrouchyGaijin, do you know of any websites or reports that have higher numbers than the one you've presented?
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rjd_jr
Looks like the surge is working
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redacted
Odd how little calculation has been done on the number of lives saved in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Where are those Lancet surveys ?
The UN has estimated that a minimum of 40 000 lives have been saved annually in Afghanistan since the US-led ouster of the Taliban.
By my reckoning - which is no leass facile than any other here - that sort of, you know, 'cancels out' the numbers dead from Muslim on Muslim slaughter in Iraq. Right? I mean, as fast and loose as the Lancet figures are played with by the supposedly anti-war crowd it's pretty clear that the dead in Iraq are little more than numbers for most "pacifists" out there.
The numbers are tossed out in the same spirit people stick "grim" in front of the word milestone to refer to Marines killed in Iraq when they are otherwise quite casually referred to as thugs, criminals and "the bottom of the barrel" when in an article about enlistment numbers back home or news-making crime in Okinawa.
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Sarge
"Saddam's fall"
I remember seeing images on TV of people beating the pulled-down statue of Saddam with their shoes, and people shouting "Thank you Mr. Booosh!"
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SushiSake2
Ibrahim Khalil, one of the Iraqis who pulled down the statue in Firdoos Square, said he regretted what he did that day.
“If history can take me back, I will kiss the statue of Saddam Hussein which I helped pull down,” he said in the square.
“Now I realize that the day Baghdad fell was in fact a black day. Saddam’s days were better ... Under Saddam’s regime, we were safe. We got rid of one Saddam, but today we have 50 Saddams,” he said.
Heh, looks like the war supporters are still mired in delusion :-)
Maybe they'll finally snap out of it when their economy hits the wall.
Ooops - it already is.
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jambon
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GrouchyGaijin
SuperLib, Putting a big, accurate picture together is hard. So, I try to draw the strings of truth together by surfing a few sites where, although they have strong opinions, I think they're genuine about their reporting. Sometimes I'm wrong, but mostly I do OK. Here's my list to skim through: http://whatreallyhappened.com/ http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/ http://www.robert-fisk.com/ http://www.antiwar.com/ http://americanjourney.blogspot.com/ www.waynemadsenreport.com (pay site) http://www.buzzflash.com/ http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/ http://mparent7777-1.blogspot.com/
Follow the links, just surf away, and try to make some sense of it all. This one is good, but difficult to navigate: http://www.tbrnews.org/ This one has, somewhere, actual US casualty numbers, close to 70,000!
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SushiSake2
"The point here is, the bad guys understand the nature of the media. Over the past few weeks they have returned to their first principals: If you want to influence the Western press, toss rockets and mortars into the Green Zone where the Western press will report it."
Are you telling us something we don't know here?
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jambon
GEN. PETRAEUS: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member, members of the committee. Thank you for the opportunity to provide an update on the security situation in Iraq and to discuss the recommendations I recently provided to my chain of command.
Since Ambassador Crocker and I appeared before you seven months ago there has been significant but uneven security progress in Iraq.
Since September, levels of violence and civilian deaths have been reduced substantially, Al Qaeda-Iraq and a number of other extremist elements have been dealt serious blows, the capabilities of Iraqi security force elements have grown, and there has been noteworthy involvement of local Iraqis in local security.
Nonetheless, the situation in certain areas is still unsatisfactory and innumerable challenges remain. Moreover, as events in the past two weeks have reminded us and as I have repeatedly cautioned, the progress made since last spring is fragile and reversible.
**Still, security in Iraq is better than it was when Ambassador Crocker and I reported to you last September, and it is significantly better than it was 15 months ago when Iraq was on the brink of civil war and the decision was made to deploy additional forces to Iraq. **
http://www.mullings.com/patreaus-open.doc
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GrouchyGaijin
Amb. Ryan Crocker's testimony has been characterized in some US media as a "Crocker of Shiite." Nose pegs anyone?
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SezWho2
redacted,
Estimates of lives saved is at least one large reality step removed from estimates of lives lost. Estimates of saved lives depend both on a projection of lives hypothetically lost and upon an accurate representation of actual lives remaining. Estimates of lives actually lost attempt only to quantify what has actually happened.
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