A local woman shouts at Chinese soldiers wearing riot gear on a street in the city of Urumqi in China’s Xinjiang Autonomous Region, on Tuesday.
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Fresh protests erupt in China's Xinjiang region
Tuesday 07th July, 02:45 PM JST
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So it's okay for the Han to marginalize and eventually eradicate the Uighur …
Answer would be “no”
A big group of chinese just try to take revenge and they too got gear gas.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jWjsLkVdJt80QgWuRDq5FsJ5CpRw
the people from a peaceful religion burn supermarket, bus, beat-up people on bus and in town to demonstrate their peaceful protest.
Now this people meet with equally peaceful force offered by the communist! it is an equally peaceful beat up match.
the death:
Holy cow! Well, I guess my idea is out the window. that sure is a lot of groups seeking independence. No, these people better make good with the Chinese, otherwise, they'll crush them.
But, the Chinese should start understanding that not all Chinese are alike.
"I can't believe that there are actually posters here who are DEFENDING Chinese imperialism ."
Nah, willi's conspiracy Pakistan muslim conspiracy theory isn't working out, so any other world incidents involving muslims need to be seized upon to belch the hate out there....
skipthesong, yeah you got my point.
to me, the communist chinese definitely should treat their minority a lot better than this. it is such a big country with many many people. it is impossible everyone can be the same, act the same, do the same.
i should say every country in the world should do, it isn't only the chinese.
on the other hand, i don't think, it can't help anything offering independent to just about everyone asking for it.
we will highly possible see more people ask for independence, and some group will go violence hurt and kill innocent people, terrorist act, etc
whatever to get attention from the world. that is wrong to me.
we has been damning the chinese a lot on the way they handled things.
but we sometime miss saying thing about the other side of the violence too.
both side should learn to live together and accept each other difference. and i think that is only in my daydream! better weak up, don't i?
Now we witness the fruits of the PRC's long held policy if using state sponsered Han Chinese immigration to establish control over its disperate outer provinces. The Han monopolize the local government and economy while squeezing out the locals and their culture and language. The same tactic has been widely used in Tibet, and with the same results: rising ethnic resentment resulting violent anti-Han outbursts. Not that the PRC really cares; just more fuel for the propaganda machine and another reason to crack down. (And there isn't any Olympics this time to focus the world's attention on the ugly mess.)
Triumvere, you are spot on. But now that the Chinese are actually there (in both Xinjiang and Tibet), they certainly are not going to leave. Hopefully both sides calm down and peace and co-existence can be achieved.
The UK had a similar problem in Northern Ireland, and the US performed their form of 'ethnic cleansing' when they virtually wiped out the Native American Indians over ~100 years ago. Now we see the Chinese moving their massive population into these regions, and soon they will outnumber the locals.
Recipe for disaster? Not if China handles it right.
There is plenty of blame to go around. The central government has been supressing langauges and customs of most of the minority groups for years. It should have been a peaceful protest, not a riot. But who knows what went down. Does sound a lot like the American west though. Just no reservations.
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Triumvere at 05:11 PM JST - 7th July
Den Den, do you really think the PRC needed an excuse? Just look at Tibet.
stirfry at 05:11 PM JST - 7th July
156 killed + chinese govt math = 600 killed
thedeath at 05:37 PM JST - 7th July
Answer would be “no” A big group of chinese just try to take revenge and they too got gear gas. http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jWjsLkVdJt80QgWuRDq5FsJ5CpRw
the people from a peaceful religion burn supermarket, bus, beat-up people on bus and in town to demonstrate their peaceful protest.
Now this people meet with equally peaceful force offered by the communist! it is an equally peaceful beat up match.
skipthesong at 06:28 PM JST - 7th July
If these people want independence, perhaps the han Chinese should give it to them.
DenDen, what do you mean the pro-democracy Iranians are now terrorists?
LFRAgain at 06:35 PM JST - 7th July
I think that's been the prevailing wisdom regarding Tibet for the past 50 years.
But still to no avail, of course.
LFRAgain at 06:35 PM JST - 7th July
And Taiwan.
LFRAgain at 06:35 PM JST - 7th July
And Hong Kong.
BAYANI98 at 06:40 PM JST - 7th July
Looks like western propaganda, aimed at overthrowing the Iranian governments democratic win has backfired
Wrong thread already , wrong reasoning anyway . I can't believe that anybody is also DEFENDING Iranian dictatorship as well !
thedeath at 06:51 PM JST - 7th July
this will help complete the lists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listofactiveautonomistandsecessionistmovements
every one seem to want an independence.
skipthesong at 06:58 PM JST - 7th July
the death: Holy cow! Well, I guess my idea is out the window. that sure is a lot of groups seeking independence. No, these people better make good with the Chinese, otherwise, they'll crush them.
But, the Chinese should start understanding that not all Chinese are alike.
Madverts at 07:02 PM JST - 7th July
"I can't believe that there are actually posters here who are DEFENDING Chinese imperialism ."
Nah, willi's conspiracy Pakistan muslim conspiracy theory isn't working out, so any other world incidents involving muslims need to be seized upon to belch the hate out there....
thedeath at 07:15 PM JST - 7th July
skipthesong, yeah you got my point. to me, the communist chinese definitely should treat their minority a lot better than this. it is such a big country with many many people. it is impossible everyone can be the same, act the same, do the same.
i should say every country in the world should do, it isn't only the chinese.
on the other hand, i don't think, it can't help anything offering independent to just about everyone asking for it.
we will highly possible see more people ask for independence, and some group will go violence hurt and kill innocent people, terrorist act, etc whatever to get attention from the world. that is wrong to me.
we has been damning the chinese a lot on the way they handled things. but we sometime miss saying thing about the other side of the violence too.
both side should learn to live together and accept each other difference. and i think that is only in my daydream! better weak up, don't i?
Triumvere at 07:52 PM JST - 7th July
As ye sow so shall ye reap.
Now we witness the fruits of the PRC's long held policy if using state sponsered Han Chinese immigration to establish control over its disperate outer provinces. The Han monopolize the local government and economy while squeezing out the locals and their culture and language. The same tactic has been widely used in Tibet, and with the same results: rising ethnic resentment resulting violent anti-Han outbursts. Not that the PRC really cares; just more fuel for the propaganda machine and another reason to crack down. (And there isn't any Olympics this time to focus the world's attention on the ugly mess.)
mushroomcloud at 12:33 AM JST - 8th July
Triumvere, you are spot on. But now that the Chinese are actually there (in both Xinjiang and Tibet), they certainly are not going to leave. Hopefully both sides calm down and peace and co-existence can be achieved.
The UK had a similar problem in Northern Ireland, and the US performed their form of 'ethnic cleansing' when they virtually wiped out the Native American Indians over ~100 years ago. Now we see the Chinese moving their massive population into these regions, and soon they will outnumber the locals.
Recipe for disaster? Not if China handles it right.
ca1ic0cat at 02:59 AM JST - 8th July
There is plenty of blame to go around. The central government has been supressing langauges and customs of most of the minority groups for years. It should have been a peaceful protest, not a riot. But who knows what went down. Does sound a lot like the American west though. Just no reservations.