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YangYong
Let's hope it stays as an isolated incident. Two more lives lost is too many already. Am sure those responsible will be closed down, fast and effectively. No on wants to revisit the past.
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Bento
i'm afraid you are wrong there are plenty who want to revist the past.gerry adams and his ilk demonstrated where terrorism gets you if you are persistent..right into the first ministers office..all the way to the top..so the encouragement is there for these murdering scumbags.Hopefully as it is post 9/11 and the "rules" have changed these terrorists will very shortly face their own end in a hail of bullets,that's the demotivation they require guaranteed death. there is an outside chance of islamic fundamentalism trying to whip up ill feeling in Ulster again as part of their wider down with the west campaign. Watch the house prices in Ulster return to long term trend valuations. Sympathies to the relatives of the victims.
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Wottock_Hunt
Pretty sure all the Commandments apply to both Catholics and Protestants.
I watched JPII say "Men of violence, on my knees, I beg you renounce your ways"
Don't tell me the IRA are Catholics.
Of course, this was before Terrorism was a bad thing for Americans, and Noraid was a charity.
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YangYong
LunchBox: Demonstrating exactly the response these murderers want. Don't feed them.
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Nessie
I'm pretty sure "Thou shalt get yer Proddy carcass back to England" applies to only one of those groups.
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Nessie
They happen to be Catholics, but that's shorthand for native Irish as opposed to Anglo-Irish (i.e., Protestant). There's no religious dimenion, as you know. The religion names are proxies for ethnic identity.
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YangYong
TNF:Oi! Stay in your box! That kind of JERK reaction is exactly what NI does NOT need. Cool it.
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Thenewfront
YangYong: My right to free speech and high first hand knowledge about NI situation is entirley frelevent.
I have been near to three cowardly IRA blasts, and could easily have been a victim, have you?
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YangYong
Your right to reasoned debate, sure. An inflammatory hate based call to arms is something I will bring you to task on, young man.
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Thenewfront
YangYong: You are being an irritant. I am not a young man. I have dealyt with IRA and they are scum, routhless gangsters. I have only written facts,about these supposed "religous catholics" who maimed and killed thousands to vainly try to gain control of British held N Ireland. They failed once and if they are planning to start gain, they again will fail.
The only thing inflammatory, are the IRA murderers. YangYong, think of the victms and their families and the thousands of others since the early 70's at these evil doers hands.
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AlbertGTrotter
During the troubles we in LOndon livein feaogular bombings from these gits. I agree with Thenewfront. These geezers out to be sought out , a large reward offered and justice brought. They are cowardly swine, who killed many , including women or kids. If they think they ae making a comeback, i hope the British army decimates them quickly.
They are still being funded by "freedom loving" Americans of Irish extraction. It is a disgrace.
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AlbertGTrotter
YangYong: How am i calling to arms, the IRA started it, are you too thick to read the story or something?
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YangYong
No, I am being reasonable. You are not. Just like the men who did this. It's good that Stormont is made up of people with cooler heads than yours, for someone professing to be 'not young' you sure do a fine impression, not give one mind. Albert: Only London? Dear me. Warrington. Manchester. Omagh. Enniskillen, Belfast... of course the British didn't contribute to the mess at all. Come on, get a sense of what you're saying before you say it. As stated in my first post... ah, go read it.
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RegVarney
I agree that strong armed tactics are needed to stop the IRA from becoming a deadly force again. Get SAS or whatever is required and catch or kill those responsible and the cohorts. We had enough death caused by these villains in the past. Enough is enough, and as for YangYaong, if you aint lived in fear of bombings for 3 decades, you aren't qualified to comment on those who have young man. The IRA still rule parts of NI estates witha rod of iron , kneecappings and stuff are regular punishments they mete out. The worm must be stopped before it grows and destroys the peace process and stability in Ireland.
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frontandcentre
I'm sure it won't be long before some Boston-based apologist for these murdering scum comes along and starts talking about the "nobility" of gunning down innocent people in a fight that the IRA have already lost
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likeitis
More than 10 years with no fatalities and we have people here who buckle and want to go back to old ideas because of one attack?
Glad to see the leaders in both the north and the south are made of stronger stuff.
May sympathy for the families generate a wide man-hunt to bring the gits who did this to justice. Moves to generate more families deserving of such sympathy would be rash and counter-productive.
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Thenewfront
likeitis: There are victims on an almost daily basis by the IRA. They are gangsters who kill rival drug dealers and kneecap even kids who are "alledged to have grassed to the police". No is the time to finally stamp out these thugs. If they want to be free from British reign , then go to Southern Island and don't attack our innocent troops, nor forgetting 2 innocent pixxa delivery men. How low can the IRA sink. There are still thousands of catholics who support these tactics. Make sure the soldiers didn'T die in vain, satmp out and smash the IRA, with whatever methods are available.
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Midnightpromise
Why don't the British stop the occupation and give N. Ireland independence and let those districts join free Ireland? Does anyone remember the murders the brits did using paramilitary back in 1990? They asked for a war, and they have one. End one of the last vistage of British colonialism now!
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Midnightpromise
Does anyone but me see something a little bit awry with this statement?
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likeitis
Innocent troops to you are an occupying force for another. If you want to speak of going somewhere, it should be the English going back to England, and the Ulsters going back to Scotland.
What should have been done is to accept the situation. At least the British are not pitch capping them anymore. I recommend everyone involved get used to one another.
Too late for the killers though. They belong in jail, not south anyway.
A situation the British had a hand in creating.
Say what you will, the situation is improved compared to ten years ago. No Brit has a right to whine over not getting instant and perfect peace. Your lot mucked it up for hundreds of years with your "smash 'em attitute". Bury it. Because it did not work then. It won't work today. And two dead in ten years is a success no matter what other crap is going on. So give it time.
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likeitis
The Parliament of NI decided not join the Irish Free State back in 1922. That is because of the Protestant influence. If they joined the rest of Ireland, those Protestants would have been seriously oppressed, if not murdered. Naturally, people vote against that.
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Thenewfront
likeitis: If we has a smash em up attitude we would have killed the lot ,we had to capabilities. If we were like America or Israel we would have done. Britian has provided prosperity to Ireland North and South, they have achip on their shoulder in Ireland, though the young are seeing sense and seeing the good in the English. Innocents were killed yestereday, nothing to do with Britain attitude, everything to do with catholic violent and nationalistic evil.
NI, is part of the UK, and they better behave and follow our laws or we may have to have a strong troop prescene back on the streets.
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Thenewfront
likeitis: Doesn't the reason tehe protestants remained under British control, show the evil of the catholic Republicans, and the murderous violenec us BRits have contained and almost stopped?
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likeitis
Ha! You would have Oulart Hills all over the place! Britain kept Ireland down by division and fear far more than violence, but there was violence aplenty. What limits on violence there were were not out of kindness.
When people say they don't want your gifts, you really should not force them down their throats. You should just go home.
Because there is now good to see. I hope the trend continues.
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Thenewfront
The majority in NI voted to remain under British control, asthey would be mudrdered by the Catholics. NI is a democracy that the republicans are trying to destroy., That is terrorism , do you support that, or are the evil IRA freedom fighters? Yawn....
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likeitis
I would not wish a Catholic government on anyone. But I would not say they are evil. They are just misguided.
Planting landless Scots in Ulster is the reason why Ireland is not united today. The root of the violence began with the English. Its undeniable. But like I say, EVERYONE needs to get used to the situation, since they are no longer truly oppressed.
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ChrisBiggins
This is a terrorist attack, and we must track down the killers as we would Muslim fundamentatalists. All these murders down to religion, how horrid saying it's in the name of god.
Moderator: Readers, please do not turn this discussion into an anti-religious rant.
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likeitis
Please put one hand on your shoulder, the other on your lower back and gently but firmly push them away from eachother until you hear a "pop!" Wipe any residue there might be from your eyes and read this:
"THE BRITS ARE FAR FROM BLAMELESS!"
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Nessie
I hope Newfront is being sarcastic. Not that I don't agree with Chris that Rome has much to answer for.
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Thenewfront
likeitis: We have had thousands of our country men murdered by these terrorists, if they think they can make a comeback , think again. The British are indeede blameless. 2 dead 2 injured by terrorists and you think Britain is to blame, you must be nuts.
If America has a group lead by a major religion committing terrorist attcks, see how they would react.
Britain is blameless and is a force for good in Ireland. Southern Irish for years have been avble to live on British welfare and stay in Britain without visas, at the same time the Irisg givt was shielding and refusing to hand over IRA terrorists to Britain.
NOW TELL ME WHO IS TO BLAME!!!
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likeitis
Obviously, you are against the minor surgical procedure I recommended. Perhaps you would agree to a plexiotomy then?
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Thenewfront
likeitis: I see you cannot answer my question. You cannot bring yourself to condemn these terrorists, how terribly sad in these troubled times.
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RegVarney
Gordon Bennett, it's obvious that the IRA are to blame and should be hunted down dead or alive, i honestly believe taht. These terrorists are trying to break the peace process and start teh catholic inspired troubles again. I also remember the Irish Government shielding terrorists from British justice, it was a disgrace, their anti British catholic views made peace impossible.
Now Eire has changed and the IRA cannot hide so easily there, amybe they have safe houses, but the Garda will be on the look out for them.
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frontandcentre
Starviking - your comments make abundant sense. How refreshing.
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