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rjd_jr
Ha ha, poor Bush, sometimes ya gotta feel sorry for the guy the world loves ta hate.
On second thought........NOT
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SuperLib
If Bush were really a terrorist they wouldn't be protesting him.
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Sarge
"As the red carpet was rolled out for Bush"
Heh.
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Betzee
Well, this is the last time the Brits have to deal with the security implications of such an unpopular visitor from the other side of the pond. They've done it before and, as this November 2003 letter to the editor of the NYT's attests, the more things change, the more they stay the same:
''Bush and Blair Say Bombings Fortify Resolve'' (front page, Nov. 21) quotes Laura Bush in response to a question about the large protests in London. ''We've seen plenty of American flags, we've seen plenty of people who were waving to us,'' she said, ''many, many more people, in fact, than we've seen protesters.''
This comment speaks volumes about the isolation in which our president lives. This is not isolation forced upon him by the understandable need for security, but a willful isolation from any dissenting views.
The protesters exist whether Mrs. Bush sees them or not, and the reality of the president's disastrous invasion of Iraq will exist whether he acknowledges it or not.
query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage. html?res=9F00E2DC133BF931A15752C1A9659C8B63 - 41k
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Everton2
SuperLib wrote - "If Bush were really a terrorist they wouldn't be protesting him".
The debate on that issue is still going on. It could be that the reason for the protest may very well lend itself to that belief.
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Betzee
According to an interview in the Times of London "President Bush regrets his legacy as man who wanted war." Specifically, using "[p]hrases such as 'bring them on' or 'dead or alive'," he said, “indicated to people that I was, you know, not a man of peace".
It was not his choice of language, though it did make him come across as a John Wayne wannabe, it was his evident impatience to invade Iraq, contrary to what he publicly claimed, which left a decidedly poor impression.
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Taka313
It's kind of hard to get excited over a 2,500 person protest over bush when the South Koreans busted out 80K strong over beef imports.
Betzee,
He probably shouldn't have been running around referring to himself as a "war president" then, huh?
A little thought can go a long ways in some situations.
Taka
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adaydream
Last week parliment pass a law that there could no demostrating when george bush made this visit. I see it worked.
his popularity is no better there then it is here. < :-)
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Jahdog
adaydream, thanks for the info not mentioned in the article. I was thinking "Only 2500?" but of course that's because they were told they'd be arrested.
"Protesters need permission to march near parliament and the police have told the campaigners that their march will not be allowed. A Stop the War spokesman said: 'It seems that when George Bush visits this country, traditional rights of assembly and movement are removed from the people.'" http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/jun/10/foreignpolicy.iraq
When "free speech zones" are the rule, the country is no longer free. W has made them more common than during the height of the Vietnam War protests. W's legacy will be the erosion of US leadership strengthening of Iran and radical Islam (and numerous other negatives, from the perspective of US citizens).
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RedMeatKoolAid
Protests like this used to be given about ten seconds on the nightly news in America. But that was thirty years ago. They are still newsworthy in Japan?
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Madverts
meat,
I think the lack of protesters further emboldens bush's status as the Lame Duck "who care's about his ass anymore" president.
History has already judged Dubya an his disaterous tenure. It's time to bog of back to Crawford and up the secret service protection.
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change
Oh Mr George War Bush, please spare the security services of other nations the trouble of having to contain protesters and your lovers here in JT, the trouble of having to explain you to common people like myself. We just pray that this is your last such visit. Enjoy your retirement in piece. We don't need anything like Bush Foundation
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Betzee
Taka, I think GWB realizes being a "war president" kinda loses its allure if you can't declare victory on your watch. He thought he had; who can ever forget his "flight suit moment"? Alas, it proved fleeting....
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RedMeatKoolAid
It wasn't a protest. It was a parade of 2,500 fools who haven't worked out (or can't face the fact) that the incremental theft of their civil rights was not George Bush's doing.
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adaydream
RedMeatKoolAid - Please explain your statement.
2500 fools who haven't worked out... Are you concerned about their health?
(or can't face the fact) that the incremental theft of their civil rights. Who stole what? All over the mideast they have been ruled basically under the same laws. So who stole what?
No george bush didn't steal their civil rights, he made the invasion and murder of 1000s of innocent Iraq citizens. < :-)
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buggerlugs
It wasn't a protest. It was a parade of 2,500 fools who haven't worked out (or can't face the fact) that the incremental theft of their civil rights was not George Bush's doing.
If it wasn't Bush who pressured to have the rights removed then it was his little puppet "Cameron" who did... when will the world stop kissing the US nether regions? It sickens me that the Brits follow that thing "bush" into murdering innocents... and it is all for what? make me pay more for my petrol... I hope Obama is better... not a war mongering Baby killer.
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Sarge
Bugger - "make me pay more for my petrol"
Your government taxes the hell out of it. Bush has nothing to do with it.
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Madverts
Uh, sarge:
Bush's doomed foreign policies have everything to do with the global hike in crude oil, whether the government is over-taxing or not. I'm sorry, but the facts, once again, are against you.
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SuperLib
Do British people really walk around blaming Bush for the price of gas in their country? I figured it was just some small percentage of people on the internet doing it to blow off some steam....but if the average Brit really believes the above then my God....that's just insane.
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adaydream
Sarge, this war takes away from their general fund. A greater portion of their gasoline prices are taxes versus the US. When they need tax dollars among the avenues that the country has to raise general fund capital is to raise gae prices.
Unlike here in the states. Federal taxes raised on gasoline taxes here go to road improvements, etc. Not the general fund. < :-)
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Madverts
Here's insane, superlib:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7083015.stm
There's even a drawing with colour in it for those who get headaches or quickly bored whilst reading the written word.
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adaydream
Madverts, I like this part.
This is the part that stands out. (The slumping dollar, geopolitical instability...)
That's one reason why george bush attacked Saddam. Saddam refused to sell the US petroleum. He threatened to sell it on the euro market and cut the dollar out totally.
Now Iran has made it known that they will be refusing to sell for the USD also. That's reason enough right there for the republicans to want to attack Iran. < :-)
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Madverts
"Saddam refused to sell the US petroleum"
I'm not sure he did, z. I don't think the republicans will be attacking Iran, either.
I was merely replying to superlib's utter dissmay, nay, even calling other people insane for thinking Bush Co's doomed foreign policy has forced up the price of petrol....when it has.
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adaydream
They can attack all they want. Saddam refused to sell the US oil during the oil for food program. We never bought a single barrel from Iraq. We bought oil from second party sellers.
Iran has already announced they will be selling for the euro and will refuse to deal with the USD. < :-)
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SuperLib
Adverts...do people in England really blame George Bush for the price of oil in their country?
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SuperLib
Does that make you happy, daydream? Score one for you and Iran?
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adaydream
I didn't have anything to do with it SuperLib. george bush and his administration's destroy Iran mission he's been on since he took office. < :-)
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Sarge
"Adverts... do people in England really blame George Bush for the price of oil in their country?"
Only the uninformed Bush haters.
"Uh, sarge"
Madverts, I'm laughing at the superior intellect.
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SuperLib
I didn't believe your lies about the imminent invasion of Iran before, and I don't believe them now.
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adaydream
Kewl. Your right to do so. < :-)
Moderator: The word is "cool," not "kewl."
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Madverts
"Adverts...do people in England really blame George Bush for the price of oil in their country?"
Not uniquely, no. But whilst you're saying it's insane for me to mention W's doomed middle east policies have anything to do with the sky-high oil prices, you're wrong.
No journalist in the UK or in France right now seems to dare tackle the real gas issue however, which is years of the government's doping itself on gas taxes - but that has nothing to do with Bush and his farewell trip to Yurp.
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Madverts
Uh, sarge:
"Madverts, I'm laughing at the superior intellect."
You shouldn't be laughing, you should be paying attention to the error you made in your earlier claim, young man.
Bush's doomed foreign policies have everything to do with the global hike in crude oil, whether the UK government is over-taxing or not. I'm sorry, but the facts, once again, are against you.
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westurn
Lemme see if I got this right... 2,500 anti-Americans with nothing better to do. Isn't the population of London more like 7.4 million ??? Once again, the numbers just don't add up to make this newsworthy. How about the real scoop JT ? Seems that Bush's farewell tour to Europe is nothing short of a love fest ! The Pope, Sarkozy, and now Brown have all welcomed Bush with open arms, yet nary a word about Bush visiting the Papal Gardens, reserved only for special guests. Or Sarkozy... all but ready to hand over the keys to the city ! But then again the reality that is doesn't mesh with the fantasy world projected by the anti's around here.
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