Iraq bombings raise insurgency fears ahead of U.S. withdrawal
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WilliB
Obamas Iraq plan is working splendidly!
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Madverts
"Obamas Iraq plan is working splendidly!"
Only an idiot could blame President Obama for his predecesors mess.
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Madverts
"V I C T O R Y"
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sailwind
Madverts,
You prefer DEFEAT?
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Sarge
Adverts - Could you elaborate on your "VICTORY" post? Thanks.
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adaydream
This is a another wonderful event that is a direct result of george bush's arrogant attack of Iraq.
Sure you can blame Barack Obama because he hasn't gotten the troops home yesterday, but if george bush hadn't lies his ass off we wouldn't be trying to bring home troops.
So yes, some of you posters are so right. Barack Obama may have some problems with trying to reign in the george bush Memorial War in Iraq.
At least Obama only has to clean up what wsas started. george bush will forever be blamed for starting the biggest war blunder ever created. So williB and Sarge, your idol's war ambitions have been a total disaster from day 1.
Don't worry, Barack Obama will end it responsibily. It's just going to take a while. But, Obama won't leave the troops in Iraq forever, like bush planned. < :-)
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ca1ic0cat
Obama isn't going to clean up anything in Iraq by not finishing what was started. You can argue that it was started by lies, wishful thinking, whatever but the fact is that what is done is done. I suspect that if we leave now we can expect an Iraqi civil war complete with atrocities against civilians and all the other things most would want to avoid. There are plenty of sickos who would start a war if there aren't forces there to keep the lid on.
Of course the other thing is that the 12,000 troops aren't all coming home until 9/2009, so there haven't been a lot leaving yet. I don't know what event has triggered the latest batch of atrocities but it's not Obama. You could argue that the sickos are trying to test Obama's resolve to keep them under control. But even that is hard to blame on Obama.
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pathat
Sarge wrote:
"Adverts - Could you elaborate on your "VICTORY" post? Thanks."
Perhaps he was too busy to type, "Mission Accomplished."
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bushlover
I don't blame Bush or Osama. I blame idiots that reside in the country of Iraq. So much for having your freedom. Only to be taken by force by someone elses terror tacticts.
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TheQuestion
Will the killing stop when we leave? It's already escalating. And when all of our troops are back in a decade or so they will follow us.
Terrorist elements don't want the U.S out of Iraq or Afghanistan, they want the U.S and the western world at large dead or converted to Islam. The withdrawl will be seen as a victory and thousands will rally to their cause. The instability will cause the cost of oil to inflate again because of the lack of U.S muscle. The future is bright.
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rollonarte
True. But of course an insurgency could also follow a pullout of US bases from an increasingly Islamized Europe.
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likeitis
There were not suicide bombers in Iraqi marketplaces until GWB decided to invade and lied about his reasons to get us to go. Try keeping that in mind until the end of the post, if your attention span is long enough. Yeah, I am talking to you chicken hawk.
An agreement was made to withdraw all American troops complete with a deadline. That agreement was forged by the Bush government and the Maliki government. It is the core of the "plan" to leave Iraq.
The details of the plan to withdraw U.S. forces are being forged by Obama in conjunction with the military. And as they are still in the planning stages, you would have to be an idiot to blame Obama's plan for this suicide bombing.
The only thing you could possibly blame might be Obama's mouth for telling the truth. Would you rather he lie? PUT your damn hand down chickenhawk! Lies are how the suicide bombings got started in the first place. Read the first part over again. I knew you would forget.
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rollonarte
Looks like the fist is still clenched, as Obama likes to say.
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rollonarte
Of course, the appointment of warmonger Hillary Clinton to Sec of State and warmonger Joe Biden to VP don't help things, do they.
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Sarge
"There were not suicide bombers in Iraqi marketplaces until GWB decided to invade"
No, just a dictator running the country into the ground from his many luxurious palaces.
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TheQuestion
Then there were the executions, the nerve gass in Halabja, and the invasion of Kuwait. And lets not forget that sectarian violence isn't exactly a recent phenomenon and that the bombings are merely a new tool that, for the most part, target citizens.
Moderator: Back on topic please.
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Taka313
I think there will be further escalation in violence, the closer we come to withdrawal.
I don't think the purpose is, or has ever been, to defeat the U.S. militarily. Even the fanatics have to understand that.
But...as long as they keep us there, they whittle down our military readiness and make us borrow more and more to fight a fight that cannot be won militarily.
It's a shame that the hubris shown by the planners of this debacle prevented them from seeing that.
Taka
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SushiSake3
When the terrorists "follow us home," will they take buses or chartered flights?
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VOR
Well Mr. Obama, what do you have to say for yourself?
Either you are committed to seeing this through to a successful conclusion or raise the white flag and get all the troops out of there now. You bear responsibility for every drop of American blood spilled from the time you emboldened the terrorist by setting a hard and fast date to remove combat troops.
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SushiSake3
VOR, I get a kick out of knowing you supported the wrong-headed invasion of Iraq that triggered all these suicide bombings, while now you say you are committed to "seeing this through to a successful conclusion."
Problem is, Americans are fed up waiting, and let's face it - no one really knows what a "successful conclusion" even is.
Do you?
VOR - "You bear responsibility for every drop of American blood spilled from the time you emboldened the terrorist by setting a hard and fast date to remove combat troops."
ROFL!!!!!! Your support started this idiot war, that we can all see you are willing to support with words and .....nothing else. :-)
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SushiSake3
VOR - " from the time you emboldened the terrorist by setting a hard and fast date to remove combat troops."
ha ha, the previous president - the one you backed to the hilt - not only embolded the terrorists by attacking Iraq for no reason, but he strengthened their cause, emboldened Iran, and made America a laughing stock.
But you - incredibly - find a reason to blame President Obama?
Heh, keep it up and you will help assure the Demcorats of 4 more years. :-)
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likeitis
VOR: You bear responsibility for every drop of American blood spilled from the time you emboldened the terrorist by setting a hard and fast date to remove combat troops.
What gives? The most important date set was done by the Bush Admin and the Maliki government. They cannot all be pulled out on that date you know.
So of course a hard and fast date was set to remove combat troops sometime before that date. Withdrawals take time. They cannot just call them home one fine day and they disappear instantly in a cloud of dust!
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Madverts
Elaborate? Sure, young sarge:
""rollonarte at 06:29 PM JST - 1st March
Looks like the historically crucial second free and democratic election, which liberated Iraq recently held and which produced no sign of anything that would invalidate it, provides the conclusive proof that the American and coalition forces most definitely achieved V I C T O R Y."
Posted on Japan Today only 10 days ago. Amazing, when the same poster relevant to that quote is present on this thread, only now he's muttering about "Islamized Europe", Obama, Secretary of state Mrs Clinton, and Joe Biden.
Reality bites.
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Madverts
"Either you are committed to seeing this through to a successful conclusion"
vor, your boy bush went down that route and achieved nothing. Anyone claiming the surge is some sort of success for bush co's Iraq mission clearly has no grip on Reality since the cause and effect of the invasion itself necessitated the damned surge in the first place.
It's truly amazing the petty small-mindedness that fuels the partisan hacks to put the blame on the shoulders of a president that is picking up the pieces of somebody else's disaster...
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SushiSake3
Madverts- "put the blame on the shoulders of a president that is picking up the pieces of somebody else's disaster..."
Very, very true....
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Sarge
Young Adverts ( 04:51 PM ) - I see. You were just quoting what someone else said on another thread.
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Madverts
"Bush causes acne also."
Perhaps that could be true, amongst the stressed-out radical left with hormones and emotions running like a high octane dragster that is....
The Reality you don't wish to see however, is that ex-President Bush is responsible for this mess, not President Obama as some are blighting about on this here thread. I didn't think you subscribed to their brand of radicalism to be honest Sailwind.
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adaydream
sailwind
I'm not sure about acne, but bush has caused uncalled for deaths.
he started this wonderful war, couldn't end it and left it for someone else. Whether it wound up being John McCain or Barack Obama, someone has to clean up his mess.
Don't try to equate this as an action as a result of the WTC attack. The WTC attack had nothing to do with Iraq.
Hey Sarge, even if Madverts did borrow his post from another thread, is his post incorrect? < :-)
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Madverts
"You were just quoting what someone else said on another thread."
Yes young man - notice how he's scampered of once again, after dark mutterings about the new administration, heh, and for some reason - "Islamisized Europe". This is precisely the kind of irrational behviour I was talking to you about the other day;
When in doubt, introduce as many subjects as you can in the hope Reality (in this case lots more dead people in Iraq) will somehow be obfuscated.
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TheQuestion
Are you questioning their ability to get on said buses and planes or their willingness to do so in order to kill the American and European infidel? Because both have been confirmed in the past, unless of course terrorist have learned to teleport...god help us all.
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Sarge
I'm looking foward to Sushi's answer to The Question's question.
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Wottock_Hunt
I think some people are choosing to forget the simple fact that there were no Islamist terrorists in Iraq whatsoever until somebody's foolhardy assault on the country, without any kind of strategy for what would happen after the removal of Saddam (on spurious and deceitful grounds), tuned the area into Recruitment Central for anyone with a grievance and the will to use violence to express it.
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