3 security guards killed in another attack in N.W. China

Wednesday 13th August, 05:40 AM JST

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skipthesong at 10:32 AM JST - 13th August

Ethnic/religious minority taking up armed struggle." Why do people lately find it that because a minority/ethnic group does take up an armed struggle, they are assumed to be in the right and are therefore cheered for?
bushlover at 10:51 AM JST - 13th August

[ in the mainly Muslim region of Xinjiang]. This could explain it. Skip, In China people can do many feats. Haven't you seen those Chinese movies?
seansezso at 11:04 AM JST - 13th August

Well, Skip, there is this thing called self-determination, and armed struggle should not be necessary to achieve it. Those who grip territory despite the will of the people who live there are going to get viewed as in the wrong.
nimbus at 11:15 AM JST - 13th August

I don't believe Chinese civilian security officers carry firearms.
skipthesong at 12:23 PM JST - 13th August

Those who grip territory despite the will of the people who live there are going to get viewed as in the wrong" Sorry if I sound offensive, but when I hear about a people, basing themselves sorely on the basis of religion, I don't buy that "will of the people" crap. If I could hear all parties involved, I may take a different point of view. Why is it so important to have an Islamic region? Why not just a simple place, where there is not religious decree for the people and they can choose to believe in what they want in thought?

I tend to think China is getting a bad rap over this. They and the people at one point decided not to have religion. So, no, you can't just cardone off a piece of land and call it heaven's place.

have these people, since the inception of China, actually declared independence or are they of the crowd that reap some benefits of the government, don't like a few things, decide to declare independence? This is part of the story we don't hear and I ain't buying into no wiki either.

bushlover: fear the fruit of their ancestor's arrogance." I think far too many put modern thought into history. If one really looks into many things, you will notice that much of the plight of the down trodden as people like to call them, is more hype than reality. One person's struggle is not that of the whole group.
burikko at 01:37 PM JST - 13th August

Chinese government insists the territory of Qing dynasty is their territory. They want to succeed to imperialism of Qing dynasty. Chinese government immigrate Han Chinese to Tibet and Xinjiang. It is colonialism.

There is no free voting for self-determination.

There is no way to protect land and culture but terrorism for Uighur, I imagine.
PepinGalarga at 02:05 PM JST - 13th August

they couldn't find any more Japanese reporters to beat up on? Just kidding. I just say that this is non-news given the massive violence in other areas, such as Georgia and California.
TonyUS at 03:35 PM JST - 13th August

Ethnic/religious minority taking up armed struggle." Why do people lately find it that because a minority/ethnic group does take up an armed struggle, they are assumed to be in the right and are therefore cheered for?

Skip.. maybe because this issue is about China. and as report after report has shown over the past 60 years, China's way of dealing forcefully with its own citizens. Maybe you can take that as a hint why people stand on the side they dp.
TonyUS at 03:38 PM JST - 13th August

Akop .. and what is that.. They and the people at one point decided not to have religion.. Where did the people have a say through out China's history???? most people on the post are not ignorant to facts.
TonyUS at 03:38 PM JST - 13th August

Akop=skip
reddragonguy at 05:35 PM JST - 13th August

Those are no religions,an ideologies that encouaraging murder and racisms is islam? That was totally nonsences that Chinese people has no rights at all and need the outside world to help. It was a hypocrisy that all the Chinese people depising! Chinese people supporting Chinese government's rule and supporting her present policies. Why some bandits keep making troubles in China? Because some foreign political factions who has a conspiracy to make chaos in China just like they did in Afghansistan in the 1980s. Why did the islamic fundamentalisms was a threat to the world? Because the islamic fundamentalisms was heavily boosted by western countries and supporting the rise of Taliban. That was the cause! China has no racisms and no discriminations over minoritries.
reddragonguy at 05:40 PM JST - 13th August

They and the people at one point decided not to have religion.. Where did the people have a say through out China's history???? most people on the post are not ignorant to facts.

This kind of cheering is no difference as encouraging murder, if this is liberty as someone believes...
reddragonguy at 05:43 PM JST - 13th August

Chinese government immigrate Han Chinese to Tibet and Xinjiang. It is colonialism

Thios is no colonialisms,the land that Chinese lived for more than hundred of years. The fact is Xinjiang is Chinese land we just gives those aliens,the Uighars a charity we sympathy them have no places to live and let them stay, now they stabbed our officers... this is a crime it has nothing to do with no religion. That was a myth fabricated and was groundless!
burikko at 07:23 PM JST - 13th August

reddragonguy,

Yes, Han Chinese have been living there, as foreigners, from the age of the T'ang dynasty 7th century.

The Qing dynasty had re-conquered Xinjiang 18th century. The Xibe people are descendants of Qing army. And not a few Han Chinese lived there as merchants and bureaucrats, I suppose. But they were minority. The CCP had gotten succession in 1949. They intended to rule Xinjiang completely.

In 1950 only the 6% of populations were Han Chinese, in Xinjiang. In 2002 the 40% of populations were Han Chinese. What is the meaning of these numbers?

However, I don't want to discuss about history. What I want to know is if there is free voting and self-determination in Xinjiang and Tibet.
PepinGalarga at 08:31 PM JST - 13th August

burikko those are some good stats. this is the same thing in other places, where the "middle kingdon" claims ownership since the beginning of time, however, they only get there a couple decades ago.