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  WilliB at 01:59 PM JST - 12th October

  TokyoGas:

  " Seems like Iraq needs military stongman to run the country. "

  Yep, that would be another Sadam. The phantastic irony here is that the US leadership removed a relatively secular dictator and hoped that islamic clerics like Ali Al Sistani would help build an enlightend democracy.

  The supreme idiocy of this policy is hard to surpass.

  (Although an Obama presidency will make a valiant attempt to do just that...)

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  taniwha at 06:15 PM JST - 12th October

  The de-stabalisation of Iraq was widely predicted prior to the 2003 invasion. However, the plan to invade and occupy Iraq had been a long time in the planning, years in fact, and well before 2001. There was really nothing to stand between the Bush administration and the plan they intended to action, except the Democrats and the European governments and they did absolutely nothing except prostrate themselves behind the idea to grab the oil seeing the US was going for it anyway.

  As for Tony Blair's chummy support of Bush it was Chamberlain colluding with Hitler all over again.

  Christians, Shiites, Kurds, and Sunnis, and the rest of the groups definable by the ethnic and religious ties they share, and in no particular order, are all victims of the destabilization of their country. In short, the process of ethnic cleansing now underway is an effect of the balkanisation of Iraq caused by the invasion and continued occupation.

  And none of it has been unforseen.

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  taniwha at 06:23 PM JST - 12th October

  There will one day be an international tribunal to bring to justice those criminals who have destroyed Iraq. It is a war crime that in scale if not in degree of carnage parallels Hitler's invasion of Poland.

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  coulrophobic at 06:27 PM JST - 12th October

  "The de-stabalisation of Iraq was widely predicted prior to the 2003 invasion."

  Pretty much every scenario possible was outlined.

  'Predictions' were cherry-picked after.

  "...Democrats and the European governments and they did absolutely nothing except prostrate themselves behind the idea to grab the oil seeing the US was going for it anyway."

  I haven't heard the 'no blood for oil' one in years.

  How did the story end?

  Did the US 'grab' all the oil?

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  taniwha at 07:11 PM JST - 12th October

  Hey Coulro,

  How you going?

  Yes, the de-stabalization of Iraq is exactly the reason that ethnic cleansing is taking place. The killing of Christians in Mosul by Sunni is precisely an example of that!

  Dude, I was on this board back before 2003, based in Japan and with a little free time. Actually right through 2000 until end of 2003. A bit of a sabbatical since then up until a month ago.

  I was one of the first here to say outright prior to the invasion it would be a disaster, be unwinnable, destroy Iraq, further destabilize the ME and most likely culminate in Turkey and Iran involved in the conflict and eventual conflagration. That eventually it is likely to develop into a world war with the US being confronted by not only its self-determined adversaries Russia and China, but also Europe which would eventually form a Euro-block of a sort and have it out also. That the conflict could go nuclear at any stage, most likely when the US used some of their new nuclear devices on Iran targets.

  The last stage hasn't happened - yet. But it is looking increasingly likely.

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  coulrophobic at 07:14 PM JST - 12th October

  How did the story end? Did the US 'grab' all the oil?

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  taniwha at 07:25 PM JST - 12th October

  How did the story end? Did the US 'grab' all the oil

  No, well, yes and no, here's the funny bit. The US got some of the oil in Iraq at least, but the cost was their banks. Finance was so tight, they couldn't even stomach the threat of another field of military involvement so the gave North Korea, get this, they gave North Korea what it wanted. They took it off the list of the 3 biggest baddies.

  Its probably worth considering also how the US has also lost a good chunk of their collective soul.

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  coulrophobic at 07:30 PM JST - 12th October

  "No, well, yes and no"

  Not very convincing.

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  taniwha at 07:33 PM JST - 12th October

  Well, that's because I don't think I need bother convincing you, Coulro.

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  taniwha at 08:01 PM JST - 12th October

  This is just further in response to your petulant protest that the predictions were 'cherry picked after the event'. Well, no, for the record that is totally incorrect, chump.

  These sectarian killings, the topic of the above article, were so totally predictable that the warnings were given years ago back as far at least as the time of the invasion. I passed these warnings on myself in my posts on the JT boards.

  I also posted and debated on JT that the war in Iraq would financially destroy the US before they managed to secure the oil reserves in the ME. The reason being the US was loaded with so much debt, its loans from Asia in particular would demolish the US if those countries ever decided to pull their investments out of the US. I posted all this in 2004 on JT repeatedly over that year.

  I posted cyber-mountains of supporting evidence for all of the above claims I made on JT. I pointed out the reason the US was in Iraq was not to bring democracy, nor to avenge the Twin Towers, that was all bald lies as well as obfuscation. The real reason was in the first stage to gain strategic localities for military bases with the purpose of destroying all opposition (e.g. Iran) to its goal of controlling access to the ME oil and gas reserves. This would reap huge profits for the US corporates and most importantly the hope was to maintain the ascendancy of the US dollar.

  'Hand picked predictions' you propose? Well, only in so far as I harvested the research of others (for mostly the analysis done by wsws.org). Those researchers were correct, and that meant that more than 90% of my 'predictions' on JT were also correct. Including who was going to be president in the last two elections - and most importantly why!

  So dude, I came back. Just prior to the next election and as it turns out the next big depression (which I also warned was coming). If anyone has read the sources I have put up here they could also have made the same statements, and indeed may have. I've been away for almost 2 years so wouldn't know. I can tell you one thing, as you are not an International Socialist you probably make investments don't you? Like the stock market, currency markets, maybe commodities?

  Acting according to the info that was in my posts, and doing it wisely of course, would have made you a bundle. Ironical isn't it. That would have been verification of the analysis I used, the 'cherry picked predictions' if you like.

  Its all their in the JT archives. Enough said.

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  taniwha at 08:04 PM JST - 12th October

  Actually the US dollar was not in "ascendancy" then, the word should be 'dominance'. That sentence should read so; "This would reap huge profits for the US corporates and most importantly the hope was to maintain the dominance of the US dollar.

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  WilliB at 08:08 PM JST - 12th October

  taniwha:

  " I posted cyber-mountains of supporting evidence for all of the above claims "

  For "evidence", read "propaganda".

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  taniwha at 08:32 PM JST - 12th October

  WilliB

  For "evidence", read "propaganda".

  Hahaha, I guess you never bother to look past your service manual, whatever that is.

  Yeah well. Here's a list of the 'propaganda' I used regularly as evidence for pretty much every claim I ever made on JT - check them out, my old posts are still there in the JapanToday archives. I'd call these sources evidence myself.

  These are from memory and starting with those I referred to the most descending to those referred to the least. The Financial Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times (usually to point out the 'liberal lap doggyness' of its editorials and columns, The Economist, The Washington Post, Asahi Shimbun, Asia Times, The Economic Policy Institute (US), the International Monetary Fund reports (mostly for the press), The Australian Financial Review, Nihon Keizai Shimbun, The Japanese magazine Weekly Asahi.

  Of course also, various government draft reports and UN reports (various) For analysis, yes, I did my own, but depended mostly on that from the WSWS.org which as I have already pointed out was pretty much always correct, as it has turned out.

  You can argue if you want, but pal, the record is what it is. And you can just howl into the wind if you like.

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  SuperLib at 02:09 AM JST - 13th October

  taniwha: I posted cyber-mountains of supporting evidence

  Eh, I think most people probably ignored it. I honestly didn't know you've been here for so long. I thought you joined like 3 months ago.

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  taniwha at 06:35 AM JST - 13th October

  Superlib

  No, just a month ago.

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