4 Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan bombings

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Sarge at 01:11 AM JST - 22nd March

smith: "lash out at these dead soldiers? Even for you that's a little sadder than usual."

Q. Have I lashed out at the dead Canadian soldiers? A. No, I have not.

You should apologize.
SuperLib at 01:11 AM JST - 22nd March

Is my anger at the US rushing into Iraq have something to do with these Canadian peacekeepers being killed by a bomb in Afghanistan?

It has nothing to do with it at all. It's amazing the MODS even let your off-topic rants stay. Yet, there they are...

smithinjapan: So what you're saying is that I was right in pointing out that war is futile and the US should not have rushed into Iraq

Well golly, I'm just pointing out how futile Canada is in Afghanistan. I guess my comments are OK now?

And I think it's important to bring up the civilian causalities at the hands of Canadians. An Afghan life is no more of less important than a Canadian life. Where was the media coverage for the two children killed?

What are you guys doing over there, anyway? 'We got trigger happy fingers, they got wrappings on they heads.. FIRE!"' Yeah, seems to fit into the typical mental retardation of the Canadian army. They could of course try to be more retarded, but every time I talk against the Canadian govn't I get chided on how great they are.
smithinjapan at 01:21 AM JST - 22nd March

sarge: "You should apologize"

Oh, yes... you're right sarge: "Of course - a free Afghanistan is of no value to Canada."

You were clearly honouring the dead with your (off topic) statement above. I'll apologize after you do.

SuperLib: "It has nothing to do with it at all. It's amazing the MODS even let your off-topic rants stay."

That's rich! Just go back and look at any comment you've posted on this thread. You've managed to take the deaths of these men from 'guns blazing' in Iraq to Chinese flags draped on coffins.

"And I think it's important to bring up the civilian causalities at the hands of Canadians. An Afghan life is no more of less important than a Canadian life. Where was the media coverage for the two children killed"

And here you are ON-TOPIC again. In fact, it was your 'on-topic' comments about innocents being killed that brought on this little talk of ours -- errr... wait... this thread is about the deaths of four peacekeepers from a bomb... not at all about the deaths of innocents. Any comments of mine that are off-topic are only in direct answer to your completely off-topic remarks.

"What are you guys doing over there, anyway? 'We got trigger happy fingers, they got wrappings on they heads.. FIRE!"' Yeah, seems to fit into the typical mental retardation of the Canadian army. They could of course try to be more retarded, but every time I talk against the Canadian govn't I get chided on how great they are."

See my comments about your credibility above. You've even dropped to the level of labelling people as 'retarded'. I think I need not say any more. Can credibility actually go into the minus? If so... you've done it! Congrats again.

"Well golly, I'm just pointing out how futile Canada is in Afghanistan"

You're right about that, to an extent, we should never have gone in to clean up your mess, and I'm thankful that our government didn't get suckered into the lies that dragged you into Iraq and have clearly made you upset enough to misdirect said anger onto this post.

And for possibly the fifth time, I find it sad that the deaths of four peacekeepers has come down to calling the government and military 'retards'. These men are driving around trying to keep the peace in a place they should not be in and which is falling apart.
sailwind at 01:38 AM JST - 22nd March

Brave Men....... Words fail on this.

Thank you Canada.

All I can say.
smithinjapan at 01:38 AM JST - 22nd March

All I have to add to this is that my heart goes out to the families. War in all forms is a tragedy, and these people being a part of it also.
ClassWarUK at 04:26 AM JST - 22nd March

More deaths due to American lead aggresion. When will it ever end?
SuperLib at 04:48 AM JST - 22nd March

smithinjapan: See my comments about your credibility above. You've even dropped to the level of labelling people as 'retarded'. I think I need not say any more. Can credibility actually go into the minus? If so... you've done it! Congrats again.

You don't recognize your own words? From one of your previous posts:

"'We got trigger happy fingers, they got wrappings on they heads.. FIRE!"' Yeah, seems to fit into the typical mental retardation of the US army. They could of course try to be more retarded, but every time I talk against the American govn't I get chided on how great they are."

If you don't like people talking about "Made in China" flags and "retards" in the Army, then perhaps you should refrain from using such words yourself. Looks like you're more than comfortable dishing it out....but not so good at taking it, as they say.

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thundercat at 05:11 AM JST - 22nd March

It is very rare that you have a Canadian citizen coming on a site like this and criticizing an American lose of life but as soon as it's a Canadian there is someone trying to score political points by attacking the Canadian commitment. Well, it's shameful coming from our allies.
thundercat at 05:22 AM JST - 22nd March

These men are heroes. They are putting their lives on the line to defend our freedom and they deserve our respect. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply trying to score political points.
smithinjapan at 11:44 AM JST - 22nd March

SuperLib: "'You don't recognize your own words? From one of your previous posts: "'We got trigger happy fingers, they got wrappings on they heads.. FIRE!"'

Wow... you've outdone yourself. Go back to the thread you obviously needed to dig this up from. Check out my post again... you see how the first part is in quotation marks? That's because I was quoting someone who said EXACTLY that! He said, "We got trigger happy fingers, they got wrappings on they heads.. FIRE!" They remainder of my post was mocking the person for having such an attitude and saying that if he truly thinks that's the way a military should conduct itself, they (the person) truly are 'retarded'. Now, I can't say who the person was because their post was rightfully removed, but I believe it was Nippon5 and the whole thing became a rather ugly 'debate' on bombings into Pakistan and the whole 'all Muslims are terrorists'.

"If you don't like people talking about "Made in China" flags and "retards" in the Army, then perhaps you should refrain from using such words yourself. Looks like you're more than comfortable dishing it out....but not so good at taking it, as they say."

Not it all, but in the case of threads where innocents die at the hands of US forces it's perfectly relevant to discuss whether it's 'right' or not for said incursions and attacks to take place, and when another poster starts on with the 'we should kill all people wearing wrappings on their heads' it's MORE THAN proper to question the person's mentality.

As it is, you have simply come on a post where Canadians died and felt you needed to start some sort of grudge match based on valid criticisms of the past that you simply didn't care for. This is not some 'dish it out but can't take it' logic at all -- the things are not related. If a thread comes up where Canadians kill innocents in a war they started I'll be happy to debate that THEN. As it stands, you have still lost your credibility by throwing out a completely unrelated rant and then not even quoting me properly in your misdirected anger. Well done, again.

Sorry mods... had to address the post wrongly directed at me.

More than anything, I just think it's sad people would come on here and pull out old grudges to criticize people for something COMPLETELY different. As thundercat said: "...ut as soon as it's a Canadian there is someone trying to score political points by attacking the Canadian commitment. Well, it's shameful coming from our allies."

A very good point.

I don't agree with any of the troops being there at all, regardless of nationality. I think war is heinous and any one who justifies it is a person who allows it to exist, and there are far too many of those. I feel sorry for these people, and needless to say I feel sorry for the families of those who died.
filda at 11:47 AM JST - 22nd March

smithinjapan - sorry bud - these men are not in afghanistan as peacekeepers -- they are there very much as a sharp deadly instrument. canada claims the start of the peacekeeping concept, but today we have less than about 50 peacekeepers on missions -- ten years ago we had more than 1100.

we are proud of the men and their sacrifice, but the support for the mission is eroding rather fast...
SuperLib at 12:11 PM JST - 22nd March

smithinjapan: They remainder of my post was mocking the person for having such an attitude and saying that if he truly thinks that's the way a military should conduct itself, they (the person) truly are 'retarded'.

Nope. daydream said the part in quotes. Your statement was agreeing with him, not mocking him. And your post was not pulled. Japan Today decided that it was neither rude nor off-topic. Obviously you feel the statement was out of line....now all you have to do is accept the fact that you were the one saying it. Hopefully this has been an eye opening experience for you and hopefully it will help you temper your comments in the future.

filda: they are there very much as a sharp deadly instrument

Yep. Canada is part of the invasion and they must accept the successes and failures along with the other members. I'm glad at least some Canadians understand that.
smithinjapan at 12:14 PM JST - 22nd March

filda: "we are proud of the men and their sacrifice, but the support for the mission is eroding rather fast..."

Agreed. Support for things in general in Afghanistan are eroding, I would say, and these recent deaths aren't going to help. Had the job been properly finished back when it was started then Canada WOULD be there in a peacekeeping capacity instead of what it's become, I guess, but as things are getting worse in Afghanistan and more and more troops from any given nationality are being killed, it's unlikely there will be too many allies left in the near future.
teleprompter at 12:57 PM JST - 22nd March

We'll never know if these soldiers were targeted by 'insurgents' simply because their government refuses to repatriate Canadians of Muslim faith locked up in Gitmo. The Taliban consider all Muslims their brothers and an injustice suffered by one is suffered by all and must be avenged.
smithinjapan at 01:21 PM JST - 22nd March

Four people have died, and that's sad any way you slice it. They chose to be there and fight in the folly that is war, which makes it sad but not entirely unexpected. But to come on here and start bringing up unrelated elements to try and score political points (you fail at that, though) is saddest yet.

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