8 CIA employees, 5 Canadians killed in attacks in Afghanistan

In Kabul, protesters carried signs that read: “Does peacekeeping mean killing children?” and “Stop killing us.” A protester with a bullhorn called on Obama to “take your soldiers out of Afghanistan.”

I would be so happy if we could bring our troops home. But we can't because Afghanistan allowed the Taliban/Al-Quaeda build their bases there and the terrorists attacked us from there.

It is a shame all these innocent people are dieing. These are ugly wars. Not the wars of 50 years ago when the innocent weren't targeted so blatantly. < :-)

"2,021 civilians died during the first 10 months of this year"

Under President Obama's watch? Impossible!

Evidently, the Americans were civilians...how can people complain about the US killing civilians while targeting terrorists, when the terrorists (muslims) target civilians???

The latest figures released by the United Nations show that 2,021 civilians died during clashes in the first 10 months of this year, up from 1,838 for the same period last year. International forces’ stepped up efforts to protect the population has reduced civilian casualties. Taliban insurgents were blamed for 68 percent of the deaths this year — three times more than NATO forces, according to the U.N.

Sarge = cherry picker

Sarge check out real facts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_civilian_casualties_of_the_War_inAfghanistan%282001%E2%80%93present%29

"What causes the documented high level of civilian casualties -- 3,000 - 3,400 [October 7, 2001 thru March 2002] civilian deaths -- in the U.S. air war upon Afghanistan? The explanation is the apparent willingness of U.S. military strategists to fire missiles into and drop bombs upon, heavily populated areas of Afghanistan." Professor Marc W. Herold, Ph.D., M.B.A., B.Sc.

If the suicide bomber could get to the civilians and do this kind of damage on one base they're possibly capable of killing any number of soldiers and other innocents. We've got to do better. Next time it'll be 8 dead soldiers. < :-)

The 8 were no civilians, there were CIA agents, thus legitimate target!

Everyone knows the risks. If the Taliban weren't such dikheds then maybe this kind of thing wouldn't be happening. But if they love to kill people and let others train to do the same they have to expect some blowback. I feel sorry for the average Afghani but what can you do? Ignoring problems don't make them go away on their own.

"Evidently, the Americans were civilians...how can people complain about the US killing civilians while targeting terrorists, when the terrorists (muslims) target civilians???" Terrorists,only target infidels.

@sharky1 @Kapuna check out the latest updates from cnn, bbc. they were not civilian. they were CIA agents. By the way what civilian do at US Military base? US presence in Afghanistan is 100% Military. You people are so upset by the deaths of only 8 American, I wished you have the same feeling for hundred of thousands killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and other parts of the world because of US policies.

adaydream: "We've got to do better. Next time it'll be 8 dead soldiers. < :-)"

I know you are against what's going on, so I make this comment addressing the people that think the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are just: 8 dead soldiers, 8 dead civilians, Pakistani, Brazilian, Canadian, Chinese.... it doesn't matter one way or the other in terms of 'value'; 8 people are dead, bottom line. Nationality nor occupation don't figure into the gravity of it, though admittedly Americans in particular seemed to take a little more notice when it's their people.

@bushlover "what can you do"

Well for starters we could be spending a tiny % of the costs of military action on education. I agree it is a toughie and that a US/Coalition withdrawal right now would be disastrous but education is the key and in it lies the best long term exit strategy

"What can you do"? Nothing now. The Bush administration's toxic policies have already sown the doom and misery for us all.

From the get-go, the US should have gone after the Saudis. Yes, the Saudis. All the 9/11 perps but one were Saudi. Bin Laden is Saudi. None were Afghani (or Iraqi). Saudi money has been financing Al-qaida. Yet in 9/11's aftermath, the Bush administration made Saudi an even closer "friend"! Washington then enlisted Pakistan - which had just given North Korea its nuclear bomb technolgy - as a military ally! That's why we're in this awful mess.

I should add that Reagan sent CIA advisers to train al-Quaeda's forerunners to shoot down aircraft with Stinger missiles provided by the US taxpayer. That gave the fundamentalists a huge boost, spiritually and technically.

Adaydream, those working for the CIA are hardly innocent. Who was it who encouraged the Taliban to get the Russians out of Afghanistan?

Which wars 50 years ago are you referring to? The innocent were targeted in the second world war, the Korean war, the Vietnam war and every other war you care to mention.

GaijinTreveller: Who was it who encouraged the Taliban to get the Russians out of Afghanistan?

Pretty much everyone in the world except the Russians.

The innocent were targeted in the second world war, the Korean war, the Vietnam war and every other war you care to mention.

Yeah, I don't know what adaydream was thinking with that one. Compared to previous wars the number of civilian casualties are fractions of a percent of what they used to be. The difference is that the media is able to report on every single one and make it front page news, so even as it happens less often people think it's happening more.

SuperLib: "Pretty much everyone in the world except the Russians."

Dude, come on... you know full well the role the CIA had in Afghanistan and how big it was compared to the 'pretty much everyone' you mention.

"The difference is that the media is able to report on every single one and make it front page news, so even as it happens less often people think it's happening more."

I'm not exactly arguing you on this point, but there is a BIG difference in reporting between Afghani civilian murders and in this case Americans and Canadians (civilians or otherwise). Imagine if all the innocents that were murdered were REALLY reported in daily news. But again, I don't think most Americans (or others) give a rat's a$$ about Afghani civilian deaths.

4 more canadian soldiers dead, fighting in a war that isn't theirs, for a people who seem to not even want them there. RIP to all those who died.

But to be fair though jefflee, AQ was HQ in Afghanistan so in a sense going after AQ in SA wouldn't have done as much damage as attacking them in Afghanistan.

smithinjapan: Dude, come on... you know full well the role the CIA had in Afghanistan and how big it was compared to the 'pretty much everyone' you mention.

Perhaps you could fill me in. I'd be interested to see if you could write more than one sentence on the topic.

Imagine if all the innocents that were murdered were REALLY reported in daily news

I know what you mean. People like Saddam and KJI would have been gone a long time ago. Can you imagine 20+ years of headlines describing the deaths of millions of people?

But again, I don't think most Americans (or others) give a rat's a$$ about Afghani civilian deaths.

I don't think many Canadians (or possibly others) care about civilian deaths in Afghanistan. Surely you can agree with that.

Afghanistan: Where Empires go to die. Slowly, painfully and very publicly. Anyone learn any lessons from this yet? Thought not.