85,000 Iraqis killed in almost 5 years of war

Thursday 15th October, 07:00 AM JST

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Sarge at 05:36 PM JST - 15th October

"that would be akin to the United States losing about 900,000 people over a similar period"

And we would lose that many if we didn't fight terrorists and extremists wherever they are.
WilliB at 06:03 PM JST - 15th October

Dendon:

" would saddam hussein have killed that many in that space of time sarge? who did you help out in the end? what a waste of life, and money "

Not only would he, he did. Look up the number of mass graves, and only those from his internal campaigns. You don´t even need to get into the blood baths of the Iran-Iraq war.

Moderator: Back on topic please. Saddam Hussein is not relevant to this discussion.
seijichuudo9sha at 06:11 PM JST - 15th October

Who cares. Obama won. The figure of 650,000 dead from March 2003 to the 2 weeks before the 2004 presidential election was useful at the time.
Sarge at 06:18 PM JST - 15th October

"the southern Shiite holy city of Karbala"

What makes Karbala holy?
yabits at 07:18 PM JST - 15th October

And we would lose that many if we didn't fight terrorists and extremists wherever they are.

Ridiculous.
WilliB at 09:05 PM JST - 15th October

Sarge:

" What makes Karbala holy? "

The Shiites, who now run the show, have an important shrine there. Nothing holy there for the Sunnis, not to mention the non-members of the religion of peace.
LIBERTAS at 09:23 PM JST - 15th October

justforeignpolicy.org has the number way higher than 85,000. And with an agenda like "a just foreign policy," I'm inclined to agree. The higher numbers are borne out in the UK's The Lancet of a few years back.
ca1ic0cat at 09:41 PM JST - 15th October

85,694 people were killed

Mostly by their own countrymen. Sounds like a civil war to me.
sailwind at 10:06 PM JST - 15th October

ustforeignpolicy.org has the number way higher than 85,000. And with an agenda like "a just foreign policy," I'm inclined to agree. The higher numbers are borne out in the UK's The Lancet of a few years back

Higher bodycount suits your agenda?
yabits at 01:10 AM JST - 16th October

And we would lose that many if we didn't fight terrorists and extremists wherever they are.

Take a look at this statement in terms of the ability to project power and the costs required to project it: The U.S. defense budget figures in the hundreds of billions of dollars. I doubt if "the terrorists'" budget is much beyond several millions, if that.

The "terrorists" shot a pretty big wad on 9/11 and killed a grand total of less than 4,000. That leaves them 896,000 to go.

If the "terrorists" could project the kind of power needed to kill that many people on the budget they have to work with, the United States ought to fold up its tent and find a new game to play.

No, the "terrorists" only hope is that there are enough stupid Americans who will, in essence, "punch themselves out" through swinging blindly, wildly, and often. Comments like the one quoted above must really give them hope.
tigermoth at 02:09 AM JST - 16th October

It doesn't matter how many they finally conclude have died. The 'winners and losers' always dispute the numbers (who won in this instance??) and the revisionist historians will make them and and distort them in the end. Then eventually someone will start a movement denying anyone perished at all. Sound familiar?
tigermoth at 02:09 AM JST - 16th October

'make them up' meant to say
Everton2 at 04:09 AM JST - 16th October

yes we can accept those figures, but how many are killed because of the insurgency, suicide bombers, sectarian violence perhaps 98% of that figure.
SuperLib at 05:36 AM JST - 16th October

yes we can accept those figures, but how many are killed because of the insurgency, suicide bombers, sectarian violence perhaps 98% of that figure.

And that was with a multi-national force trying to keep them apart.
rajakumar at 04:08 PM JST - 16th October

807 days to complete withdrawal from Iraq.