This is a terrible incident. Guns should be restricted to those the authorities deem honest.
The Fins and the US should change the rules. Only those with a minimum eduction, over 21 only, those with criminal records banned, have an unlicensed gun and go to jail for 10 years.
Common snese policies will deter these murders. The guy should have been banned though, as the cops questioned him only the day before, nuts!!
5.3 million people, 1.6 million firearms, 1 lunatic who abused Finland's liberal firearms laws. It's an anomaly and no reason to pass more gun control laws. The positives of firearm ownership outweigh the negatives, especially in First World countries that are importing large numbers of Third World immigrants. No mention of Switzerland? Everyone is armed there too.
Gun ownership is not a problem until people start shooting each other, then the NRA-type start sniping at those wanting stricter gun control without bothering to suggest effective measure to cut down on shootings.
That said, the solution offered by TheNewFed is extreme in the other direction - mere possession of an unlicensed gun does not merit 10 years.
But I do not believe it is either strict laws or even a lack of laws that gives us Finland's low rate of incidence of such crimes. It is a sense of community. Compared to that all laws or a lack of them is extremely weak at prevention. No sense comparing. None at all.
The gun lobiest will go again "people kill people, not guns"
but without guns makes the killing a lot more difficult.
Everyone who wants/owns a gun should have a psychological check up every 6 months, those who consider themselve stable should not have anything to fear
Romulos, would you be happier if he didn't kill himself so he could enter a justice system that would guarantee he would never pay the ultimate price?
yes. society deserved a chance to heap scorn and hatred upon him, and then sentence him. Either that or death by cop would have been just as good. But the fact that he got to choose his own fate leaves the victims and their families with no sense of justice been served.
Romulos, why make the families re-live all of this through months of trial, months of excuses, months of progressives tryin' to keep him alive? -And succeeding.
I guarantee... Between the time it took from the bullet exiting the barrel to the time it took to hit himself in the head, he realized he'd made a serious error about endin' his own life that he couldn't take back. The terror of that moment cannot be surpassed.
I guarantee... Between the time it took from the bullet exiting the barrel to the time it took to hit himself in the head, he realized he'd made a serious error about endin' his own life that he couldn't take back. The terror of that moment cannot be surpassed.
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TheNewFed at 04:49 AM JST - 24th September
This is a terrible incident. Guns should be restricted to those the authorities deem honest.
The Fins and the US should change the rules. Only those with a minimum eduction, over 21 only, those with criminal records banned, have an unlicensed gun and go to jail for 10 years.
Common snese policies will deter these murders. The guy should have been banned though, as the cops questioned him only the day before, nuts!!
bebert at 05:57 AM JST - 24th September
5.3 million people, 1.6 million firearms, 1 lunatic who abused Finland's liberal firearms laws. It's an anomaly and no reason to pass more gun control laws. The positives of firearm ownership outweigh the negatives, especially in First World countries that are importing large numbers of Third World immigrants. No mention of Switzerland? Everyone is armed there too.
buddha4brains at 07:30 AM JST - 24th September
bebert this "anomaly" happened last year too.
Gun ownership is not a problem until people start shooting each other, then the NRA-type start sniping at those wanting stricter gun control without bothering to suggest effective measure to cut down on shootings.
That said, the solution offered by TheNewFed is extreme in the other direction - mere possession of an unlicensed gun does not merit 10 years.
Everton2 at 07:47 AM JST - 24th September
bebert: what on earth is first world and third world people has to do with this? Please don't be so narrow in your thinking. Man get a grip!
CavemanLawyer at 08:41 AM JST - 24th September
Looking at the big picture, its still an anomaly.
But I do not believe it is either strict laws or even a lack of laws that gives us Finland's low rate of incidence of such crimes. It is a sense of community. Compared to that all laws or a lack of them is extremely weak at prevention. No sense comparing. None at all.
--Cirroc
dennis0bauer at 03:36 PM JST - 24th September
The gun lobiest will go again "people kill people, not guns" but without guns makes the killing a lot more difficult.
Everyone who wants/owns a gun should have a psychological check up every 6 months, those who consider themselve stable should not have anything to fear
romulus3 at 04:47 PM JST - 24th September
coward.
USARonin at 04:54 PM JST - 24th September
He kills himself, he's a "coward".
He doesn't kill himself, he's a "coward".
I've never understood what passes for logic to so many folks in this regard.
romulus3 at 05:20 PM JST - 24th September
USARonin,
Opening fire on unarmed innocent bystanders is cowardly....unless you can argue that its courageous?
I've never understood what passes for logic to so many folks in this regard
USARonin at 05:25 PM JST - 24th September
Romulos, would you be happier if he didn't kill himself so he could enter a justice system that would guarantee he would never pay the ultimate price?
I've never understood what passes for logic to so many folks in this regard.
USAR
romulus3 at 05:44 PM JST - 24th September
yes. society deserved a chance to heap scorn and hatred upon him, and then sentence him. Either that or death by cop would have been just as good. But the fact that he got to choose his own fate leaves the victims and their families with no sense of justice been served.
USARonin at 06:02 PM JST - 24th September
Romulos, why make the families re-live all of this through months of trial, months of excuses, months of progressives tryin' to keep him alive? -And succeeding.
I guarantee... Between the time it took from the bullet exiting the barrel to the time it took to hit himself in the head, he realized he'd made a serious error about endin' his own life that he couldn't take back. The terror of that moment cannot be surpassed.
-A justice of supreme resort.
USAR
Quirinus3 at 06:08 PM JST - 24th September
I agree with romulus3; He should have faced real justice, rather than his own bullet to the head.
romulus3 at 06:09 PM JST - 24th September
you cannot guarantee this. never.
WilliB at 07:01 PM JST - 24th September
TheNewFed:
But in Finland they are. Finland has approx. those laws that the gun control advocates in the US want.
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