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Afghan insurgents hang 8-year-old boy

World Jul. 25, 2011 - 06:59AM JST ( 35 )

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TumbleDryJul. 25, 2011 - 08:02AM JST

Coward b*a$tards.
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OkinawamikeJul. 25, 2011 - 08:11AM JST

Should have traded the police car for the boy.

Placed a bullseye on the front license plate and blow it away when they try and move it.

Place a GPS tracking device in the car and find the hideout.

There is so much spook crap you can do these days, just a shame that an 8 years old kid is done this way and all for what?
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chewitupJul. 25, 2011 - 08:51AM JST

Just awful. Afghanistan is hopeless. They can't even do Islam right.
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USNinJapan2Jul. 25, 2011 - 11:42AM JST

Why am I only the fourth commend on this thread although it was posted over four hours ago? Where's the outrage? They hung an eight year-old child for chrissake!

They can't even do Islam right.

Of course these devout gents would disagree with you that they are 'doing Islam right' and that you are the one who is misguided.
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yabitsJul. 25, 2011 - 11:51AM JST

I hope this little boy can taste heaven. Lord knows he spent his time in hell.
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tkoind2Jul. 25, 2011 - 12:19PM JST

USNinJapan2

We are outraged. We are saddened. The war in Afghanistan has given the people there over three decades of misery and hardship. And it promises to hold many more years of horror to come.

Now while the west is busy blaming Islam for what is going on there, we conveniently forget that it was westerners who started all this.

First the Soviets invaded to push their ideology on the Afghans, who at that time had a relatively peaceful country.

That inspired the US to fund the resistance to carry our cold war to the Afghans. So we paid a lot of money, provided training and weapons to the Mujahadin who were largely Islamists but we were ok with that as long as they fought the Russians.

So when the Russians pulled out the war lords, that we had so eagerly funded, went to war with each other to control Afghanistan. While the US more or less forgot about their allies and the needs of the country.

The Taliban, evil as they are, brought peace to the country at last. But did so at the point of a very brutal regime. Keep in mind the Taliban came from refugees in Peshawar who grew up learning extreme Islam while the US/Soviet cold war was waged in their home country.

For a decade we looked the other way and ignored the Taliban while they brutalized Afghans. Until 911, when we realized that the training camps were there.

So we went to war, but only half baked with 2,000 soldiers to manage a country 500,000 Soviets could not tame. Which has led us to our nearly ten year war there and all the mounting deaths.

So, yes I am outraged. Outraged by the fact that a long line of nations and ideologies have abused the people of Afghanistan and made it the brutal place it is. A place where eight year old kids are hung.

I blame the Soviets, the US for sponsoring the Mujahadin, the Arab Islamists and their Talibs in Peshawar, GWB and his half baked invasion, Pakistan for supporting radical groups, the Taliban for corrupting Islam into something purely evil and the world public for ignoring Afghanistan and looking the other way while it suffered all these decades.
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chewitupJul. 25, 2011 - 01:41PM JST

Of course these devout gents would disagree with you that they are 'doing Islam right' and that you are the one who is misguided.

They are not devout and they are not gents. I guarantee they cannot even read the Arabic their Koran is printed in. A certified nutcase in an asylum can also scream that others are misguided, But it does not count for much.

They ARE misguided. And you expose yourself by not making it clear in your post that you also think so, because apparently, you don't. Why don't you go peddle your views of Islam in Norway?
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lucabrasiJul. 25, 2011 - 01:51PM JST

These men sound just like common criminals, using the cover of the insurgency for their activities. Happened a lot on both sides during the Troubles in Northern Ireland. And just as the "Catholic" and "Protestant" labels over-simplified matters there, to blame Islam for a horrible event like this is to ignore the complicated reality.
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USNinJapan2Jul. 25, 2011 - 02:39PM JST

chewitup

They ARE misguided. And you expose yourself by not making it clear in your post that you also think so, because apparently, you don't.

My god, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning? That's quite a retort when all I did was point out that these extremists, misguided as they are, are acting on faith and according to their understanding and interpretation of the religion that they practice. A religion that incidentally you don't practice ( I assume), but evidently know a great deal about, well, academically at least. I'm obviously in agreement with you and anyone else that feels that these insurgents 'aren't doing Islam right' but I for one am also cognizant of the fact that Islam, and any other religion for that matter, is and becomes what its practitioners want it to be and according to their practices and most importantly that as a non-believer I myself have no authority to say what is the right and wrong way to practice a certain religion and how far off a given practitioner may be from that path. An infidel like yourself stating matter-of-factly that these Muslims are not doing Islam right is kind of ironic don't you think?

Why don't you go peddle your views of Islam in Norway?

You should consider counting to ten before you post things like this...
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lucabrasiJul. 25, 2011 - 02:51PM JST

@USN

these extremists, misguided as they are, are acting on faith and according to their understanding and interpretation of the religion that they practice.

Not necessarily. Just because they're fighting with extremists doesn't make them religious. (There's not a lot of employment opportunities in that part of the world) And, if they do happen to be believers, I'm sure that even they wouldn't suggest that Islam condones the kidnap and murder of an innocent child. They're just criminals, and religion is irrelevant here.
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RHSKitaJul. 25, 2011 - 02:52PM JST

Revolting
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USNinJapan2Jul. 25, 2011 - 02:56PM JST

lucabrasi

The kidnappers wanted a police vehicle.
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lucabrasiJul. 25, 2011 - 03:07PM JST

@USN

Sure, I read that. But did they want it to further the cause of Islam, because their boss told them to get one, or just to sell to another group? Again, there's no direct link with Islam.
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USNinJapan2Jul. 25, 2011 - 03:12PM JST

luca

You're quite the optimist.
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TahoochiJul. 25, 2011 - 03:15PM JST

This is sick. When I think "if this happened to my boy"............ it's just sick.
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lucabrasiJul. 25, 2011 - 03:20PM JST

@USN

You're quite the optimist.

Hardly. Quite the opposite I'd say. If they'd done it in the name of Allah, convinced they were pleasing him, then we'd be dealing with deranged religionists (like the guy in Norway). If they did it out of spite, after not getting what they wanted, then surely all the more reason to despair of the human race? :(
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BreitbartVictoriousJul. 25, 2011 - 05:19PM JST

I have yet to meet an apologist for Islam who can explain why the areas where it has remained 'pure', such as in Afghanistan and of course in Saudi Arabia, are also the most barbaric.
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presto345Jul. 25, 2011 - 05:59PM JST

Just awful. Afghanistan is hopeless. They can't even do Islam right.

This is very, very sad.

It is clear that what the 'insurgents' are doing can not be condoned by any religion, and that includes Islam. There cannot be anything in the holy scripts behind which brutal murderers of children can hide.
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chewitupJul. 25, 2011 - 06:58PM JST

becomes what its practitioners want it to be and according to their practices and most importantly that as a non-believer I myself have no authority to say what is the right and wrong way to practice a certain religion

Maybe you could give me a short list of children kidnapped by Muslims who were executed for not getting a ransom that is approved of by a significant minority of Muslims, or some sort of evidence that this practice is common enough in Islam to call it a trend rather than an isolated incident?

If these guys represent Islam, then the Nazis represented Christianity, just by claiming to practice, by the standard you have voiced.
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miyazawa3Jul. 25, 2011 - 07:02PM JST

Taliban are Strongly disciplined .. base on Islamic principles, and it is Islamic religious and political movement, they are not only political..strongly base on Islamic principles , and Shari'a. ( the Law) that is the main reason.. they can not be defeated or erased completely, by Any forces in the world, ( Russians, Americans , NATO...) Taliban , They never do such shamefulness innocent killings , this was done by the NATO ..they wanted to exchange kid to the father a Taliban .
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BreitbartVictoriousJul. 25, 2011 - 07:12PM JST

chewitup is at sea with modern history:

If these guys represent Islam, then the Nazis represented Christianity, just by claiming to practice, by the standard you have voiced.

The Nazi Party, the national socialists, often stated their political movement must replace what was left of Christianity after its rapid decline in Germany following WW1.
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yabitsJul. 25, 2011 - 07:30PM JST

I have yet to meet an apologist for Islam who can explain why the areas where it has remained 'pure', such as in Afghanistan and of course in Saudi Arabia, are also the most barbaric.

Pure by whose standards? Actually, the two places mentioned are where the philosophy is most conservative/fundamentalist and unchanged. Only another conservative would try to call that kind of stagnation "pure."
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BreitbartVictoriousJul. 25, 2011 - 08:19PM JST

Pure by whose standards?

By the standards of the afore-mentioned apologists, here understood to mean those outside the faith who rationalize fundy terror like lynching of 8 y.o. boys with an argument that usually says 'Not all Muslim nations are backwards! Look at Malaysia, or Turkey!', unaware that Malaysia is a former British colony - some of the laws still on the books - and Turkey, closest to Europe, chose to embrace modernity.
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SuperLibJul. 25, 2011 - 08:39PM JST

Presto345: There cannot be anything in the holy scripts behind which brutal murderers of children can hide.

With something like that I'm not sure why a script check would be needed. Either these men are out of place and it has nothing to do with religion or the religion they practice is out of place. Either way there should be nothing that stops us from condemning these men. I think we've evolved as human beings to the point where we understand murdering children is something that should never be done.
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yourockJul. 25, 2011 - 08:40PM JST

one of the worst stories I've read for a long time. Unforgivable. RIP little man, no-one can hurt you now.
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LFRAgainJul. 25, 2011 - 09:31PM JST

Anyone still think Al Qaida and the vermin they spawn have legitimate and valid grievances with the West?
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BlueWitchJul. 25, 2011 - 09:36PM JST

EXTREMELY AND UTTERLY DISGUSTING!! What an abomination really..
I hope that this child-murderers rot with maggots for all eternity, dying over and over... They are subhumans with no soul, they'll be punished in time...karma's a b%tch!
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ExportExpertJul. 25, 2011 - 09:44PM JST

First the Soviets invaded to push their ideology on the Afghans, who at that time had a relatively peaceful country.

And then the americans push their ideology on them, while all the while the muslim radical nut cases in afghan continue with their warped idea of ideology and try to impose that on the people.

But animals like these brutal barstools who hung this child need to be shot like the mad dogs they are.
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TriumvereJul. 25, 2011 - 10:42PM JST

Disgusting. I'm not sure how you can go on claiming righteousness with the corpse of an 8-year old swinging in the background.
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TriumvereJul. 25, 2011 - 10:48PM JST

I have yet to meet an apologist for Islam who can explain why the areas where it has remained 'pure', such as in Afghanistan and of course in Saudi Arabia, are also the most barbaric.

... only Islam in Saudi isn't "pure" - it's been completely corrupted by Wahhabism (the worst branch of Salafism)... which is, incidently, the same noxious brand of Islam which underpins AQ and a lot of other militant Islamist groups. They are "fundamentalists," and as with all other religions, fundamentalists are always dagerous nut-jobs.
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SerranoJul. 25, 2011 - 11:33PM JST

If Obama pulls out more troops, will the insurgents agree not to hang any more 8-year-olds?
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Christina O'NeillJul. 26, 2011 - 07:02AM JST

A police officer did his duty and paid the ultimate price, God only knows how many lives he saved by doing this.The vehicle was unlikely to have been used for a family trip to build sandcastles in the desert. How many others would be mourning the deaths of loved ones if he had succombed to thier demands, however it is a poor concelation as his family now grieves.
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BlueWitchJul. 26, 2011 - 01:17PM JST

God only knows how many lives he saved by doing this

huh? at the price of having his 8 year old son hanged?? I could care less how many would've die, but there is NO way I would have let them scumbags hang my little boy...NO WAY! Why would I care about other people's lives?? I CARE ABOUT MY OWN AND THAT OF MY CHILD FIRST!!!

The good ol' Samaritan thingy doesn't work on this case, lady.
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nandakandamandaJul. 26, 2011 - 04:59PM JST

They've done it before and they'll do it again. It's part of the plan.

You get the police vehicle in order to create a car bomb, or you kill the little boy and demoralize the police force. When looked at through radicalized political eyes, life is meaningless.
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Christina O'NeillJul. 27, 2011 - 11:44PM JST

A reply to Bluewitch, is one childs life more important then 1000 others? If the police and Defence forces yield to the evil of kidnap, then there is nothing on this earth to stop terrorists maiming and murdering innocent targets. I am thankfull that I was not the father who was forced to make that decision, I am a mother who dearly loves my children I honestly dont know how I would have dealt with such a grievious situation.It is more then probable that if that polceman had complied that they would have slaughtered his child anyway.These insurgents show niether mercy nor pity.If it had occured in Japan and the vehicle had been surrendered perhaps a school,shopping centre ect may have been a target. Terrorists exist only by fueling dread in ordinary peoples lives.