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Afghan president under pressure over election fraud rulings

World Oct. 18, 2009 - 06:49AM JST ( 12 )

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smithinjapanOct. 18, 2009 - 01:37PM JST

Did anyone believe this loser would do anything else? As has been said, the man is former Taliban, and as corrupt as anyone else.
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MidnightpromiseOct. 18, 2009 - 03:33PM JST

Aren't fixed elections the new rave?
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rajakumarOct. 18, 2009 - 03:51PM JST

Cut the crap,do the run off .
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SushiSake3Oct. 18, 2009 - 07:39PM JST

President Hamid Karzai is yet another Bush screw-up that the GOP would rather we all forget about.
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yabitsOct. 18, 2009 - 08:02PM JST

On CSpan2 yesterday, two Americans who spent a lot of time in Afghanistan in the 1970s and 1980s co-authored a book titled: Invisible History: Afghanistan's Untold Story.

What I didn't know was how the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 owed a great deal to the machinations of Zbigniew Brzezinski, who wanted payback for Vietnam by drawing the Soviets into a quagmire of their own. The Soviets finally pulled out in 1989 and collapsed soon after.

www.invisiblehistory.com

Karzai is an oil man, put in power to help achieve the grandiose dreams of the American oil men at the top of the U.S. government from 2001-2009.
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seijichuudo9shaOct. 18, 2009 - 08:08PM JST

from yabits "Karzai is an oil man, put in power to help achieve the grandiose dreams of the American oil men at the top of the U.S. government from 2001-2009."

Dont leave us hanging, my brother.What are teh specifics? What companies pull the strings?Who got the oil?We need to name some names.
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yabitsOct. 18, 2009 - 09:27PM JST

What companies pull the strings?

Anyone who believes that there are not heads of major energy/infrastructure companies and banks (Halliburton, Bechtel, etc.) who don't play an active role in influencing events in places like Afghanistan should not be taken seriously on anything.

John Perkins lays out the M.O. in Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.
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seijichuudo9shaOct. 18, 2009 - 10:05PM JST

from yabits "Anyone who believes that there are not heads of major energy/infrastructure companies and banks (Halliburton, Bechtel, etc.) who don't play an active role in influencing events in places like Afghanistan should not be taken seriously on anything."

But isnt that like saying if we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan those same evil corporate people are now working on President Obama. In fact, since Gitmo is still open and bushie boy's Patriot Act still basically in place they have gotten to Barack and Nancy and Harry. I dont know about you, but I cant bear the thought.
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yabitsOct. 19, 2009 - 12:56AM JST

But isnt that like saying if we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan those same evil corporate people are now working on President Obama.

It's more like you are trying to imply that because Obama's in office, those who have used their power and influence throughout the past six decades to bring us to this point have thrown in the towel and ceased all their activities. Far from it.

Many of the companies involved regularly provide cover for agents of "the Company." And Karzai himself has worked closely with the CIA on several occasions. There's a close symbiotic relationship with companies like Bechtel, the CIA, and conservative/neo-consvervative policy think tanks.

The moment Obama opens his eyes and starts to focus on the real enemy within the United States, the more likely it is that he will end up like Roldos of Ecuador or Torrijos of Panama.
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adaydreamOct. 19, 2009 - 03:47AM JST

The leaders who originally were put into power by the US in both Iraq and Afghanistan have both been mistakes. But someday, someday far...far away they might actually have legitimate elections. And leaders not dominated by criminal backgrounds and family members.

I think this next election will be a little more legitimate just due to the public eye on it. Karzi will be gone this next election. < :-)
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yabitsOct. 19, 2009 - 06:53AM JST

The leaders who originally were put into power by the US in both Iraq and Afghanistan have both been mistakes.

That would include Saddam Hussein, who, like Karzai, had connections to the CIA. Americans don't know and don't want to know that, before Hussein, Iraq had a leader by the name of Abdul Qassim -- who overthrew the British-installed king. Qassim wanted, like other leaders overthrown by the CIA, to nationalize the revenues from the nation's natural resources. The CIA contracted, among others, a young man by the name of Saddam Hussein to assassinate Qassim.

This goes far deeper than the difference between Democrats and Republicans.
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rajakumarOct. 19, 2009 - 06:52PM JST

The future Afghanistan and Afghan leadership need improvements.

US and CIA role in afghanistan,has not done much just changed leaders from anti-west Taliban Mullah Omar to pro west Hamid Karzai.

Same like in VIetnam war,plenty of bombings only,now and nothing much of progress for Afghans.

Moscow olympics in 1980 was boycotted because of Afghanistan fall to soviet influence.

With afghanistan more under west,is this big rise of name of US/US allies over Soviet in afghanistan.

It is just making another nation, pro-west in leadership from anti-west/pro soviet club.