The thing to remember, the US acted on what they belived valid information that came from an Afghani. I could see the uproar if we had just bombed the area for the hell of it. But once again, someone that is supposed to be on our side gave false information. Yes the US should have verified and checked to see, and I know that in war you can't all ways get the 100% verification. But I think the international outrage should be with the person who gave the false tip. There is where the real culprit lies. Reminds me of a story a few years back when one opium grower wanted to eliminate another, and the best way was to tell the US forces that the other was a Taliban. So sad.
After as many innocents that have died from false information, you can't believe that info any longer. But it appears that the US is just sluffing off the last killing incident and going on to the next. < :-)
Yeah the mighty America can never do harm. How many allies have they blasted on miss information. Not that friendly fire counts to some here. By the way whats the bush doctrine on Afghanistan. Take it to UBL???, The Taliban ( Which he invited to taxas)??, The afghan rebels??, Or cross border Pakistan??.
I fully support the military and our troops; but WMDLocated2004 you are misguided. When forces go into a village and start shooting, civilians are going to die. In some instances the casualties may be exaggerated by the Afghanis, in others under-estimated by our military. But it's naive, well okay lunacy, to believe no innocents are getting killed. Frankly I think that if true figures of the numbers of civilians killed in both Iraq and Afghanistan would be released (and we tend to get one side's bent) that it would be quite shocking. It's a product of war as has been stated by several. People get this false impression of an old war movie where it's just the good and bad guys crawling around shooting each other in a long-deserted town or city. The civilian toll in the Second World War is estimated at around 47 million people. Naturally this war is in a much smaller theater, and the ordnance we make is leaps ahead in precision, but it still happens, and likely fairly often. I'm not blaming the troops, our military or our government - just stating fact.
Yosun
Tit For Tat....
You should of said the stupid humans then you would be even more generalizing then the stupid soldiers..
But hey you must never of served in the military therefore you dont understand the difference of the chain of command, and the fact the site was given to them from a Afghan source which isnt a military personel.
Still as a member of the UN team in Afghanastan we have to check all information as best as we can, civilian loss is something as American military we actually try not to have (unlike the people we are fighting right now, but hey why judge both sides equally)..To date the extremist have killed more Afgahns then the UN team including the US, so maybe we should feel outrage about that...
Nippon5:
I really don't understand why it is so hard just to say "sorry..." for the US when he happened to do something wrong? everybody makes mistakes all over the world! the problem is not the mistake you made but the manner you face your mistakes. it's not good to say something like 'my behavior of killing 5 persons is better than someone who killed 10 ...'.
I feel sorry about those victims of the accident and I’m willing to express my respects to those US soldiers who always abide by the law and never kill innocent people and never bully POWs. However, for those who committed this crime, only “stupid” is far from enough !
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adaydream at 01:13 AM JST - 16th September
We do kill civilians. Anybody who says we don't are blind, deaf and just refuse to accept reality. < :-)
Madverts at 01:19 AM JST - 16th September
So does everybody in war. The NATO troops in Afghanistan, however, are fighting a war against an enemy who have no qualms hiding behind civillians.
Alphaape at 02:05 AM JST - 16th September
The thing to remember, the US acted on what they belived valid information that came from an Afghani. I could see the uproar if we had just bombed the area for the hell of it. But once again, someone that is supposed to be on our side gave false information. Yes the US should have verified and checked to see, and I know that in war you can't all ways get the 100% verification. But I think the international outrage should be with the person who gave the false tip. There is where the real culprit lies. Reminds me of a story a few years back when one opium grower wanted to eliminate another, and the best way was to tell the US forces that the other was a Taliban. So sad.
adaydream at 02:45 AM JST - 16th September
After as many innocents that have died from false information, you can't believe that info any longer. But it appears that the US is just sluffing off the last killing incident and going on to the next. < :-)
adaydream at 03:26 AM JST - 16th September
You believe what you want. < :-)
FromEurope at 03:57 AM JST - 16th September
What report ? Please give us the link.
FromEurope at 03:57 AM JST - 16th September
I meant the report that says the contrary.
DXXJP at 04:12 AM JST - 16th September
Yeah the mighty America can never do harm. How many allies have they blasted on miss information. Not that friendly fire counts to some here. By the way whats the bush doctrine on Afghanistan. Take it to UBL???, The Taliban ( Which he invited to taxas)??, The afghan rebels??, Or cross border Pakistan??.
Or does he even know who hes going after anymore.
tigermoth at 04:13 AM JST - 16th September
I fully support the military and our troops; but WMDLocated2004 you are misguided. When forces go into a village and start shooting, civilians are going to die. In some instances the casualties may be exaggerated by the Afghanis, in others under-estimated by our military. But it's naive, well okay lunacy, to believe no innocents are getting killed. Frankly I think that if true figures of the numbers of civilians killed in both Iraq and Afghanistan would be released (and we tend to get one side's bent) that it would be quite shocking. It's a product of war as has been stated by several. People get this false impression of an old war movie where it's just the good and bad guys crawling around shooting each other in a long-deserted town or city. The civilian toll in the Second World War is estimated at around 47 million people. Naturally this war is in a much smaller theater, and the ordnance we make is leaps ahead in precision, but it still happens, and likely fairly often. I'm not blaming the troops, our military or our government - just stating fact.
Nippon5 at 09:02 AM JST - 16th September
Yosun
Tit For Tat....
You should of said the stupid humans then you would be even more generalizing then the stupid soldiers.. But hey you must never of served in the military therefore you dont understand the difference of the chain of command, and the fact the site was given to them from a Afghan source which isnt a military personel.
Still as a member of the UN team in Afghanastan we have to check all information as best as we can, civilian loss is something as American military we actually try not to have (unlike the people we are fighting right now, but hey why judge both sides equally)..To date the extremist have killed more Afgahns then the UN team including the US, so maybe we should feel outrage about that...
yosun at 01:59 PM JST - 16th September
Nippon5: I really don't understand why it is so hard just to say "sorry..." for the US when he happened to do something wrong? everybody makes mistakes all over the world! the problem is not the mistake you made but the manner you face your mistakes. it's not good to say something like 'my behavior of killing 5 persons is better than someone who killed 10 ...'.
pointofview at 03:11 PM JST - 16th September
It
s sad, inhumane, and sick but... Its war and that`s what happens. This stuff is happening in many countries not just Afghanistan.FromEurope at 03:38 PM JST - 16th September
... wherever the US decided to intervene.
Nippon5 at 06:45 PM JST - 16th September
I will say sorry for my country (and I have many times before) but cant you say sorry to all those who serve that you called stupid.....
Thanks in advance
yosun at 09:22 AM JST - 17th September
I feel sorry about those victims of the accident and I’m willing to express my respects to those US soldiers who always abide by the law and never kill innocent people and never bully POWs. However, for those who committed this crime, only “stupid” is far from enough !
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