“We tell the enemies of God that God has saved those who will be even more painful for you,” it said. “As Abu Khabab has gone, he left behind, with God’s grace, a generation of faithful students who will make you suffer the worst torture and avenge him and his brothers.”
Look at this statement. It is 'good' in the sense that they really know how to use propaganda to capture fresh recruits. Into the net they swim, and then a violent twisting takes place until the recruit is too terrified not to obey.
How is it, that the normal human world rarely has anything effective to say in response?
It is a complete lie, of course, because it starts from the supposition that they are the friends of God, which they are obviously and blatantly not. They act as if they have a right to talk about God's grace, which they cannot ever have experienced. The word God is cynically used for political ends, and it assumes that God doesn't actually exist. (Otherwise they would be in deep trouble for what they are doing in the name of God.) Since when does God enjoy torturing people? God is merely a useful concept to an end. An easily-gabbled word. A very dangerous game in which black is openly and loudly declared white, and no one has the courage to squeak back. The Emperor's New Clothes indeed. And thousands of people continue suffer and die daily as a result of the policies of these manipulators.
nanda, unless they pay the drone pilot who fired the missile, I guess it's not likely to change hands.
While I welcome success in fighting armed ciminals, the best way to fight fundamentalism is actually not with missile and bullets, but to make the alternatives look much more attractive to those AQ would otherwise recruit. AQ is shooting itself in both feet by killing so many other muslims in Iraq, and its power is dwindling there, thanks mainly to the unity of the opposition to these killers.
I hope young people in Pakistan and Afghanistan come to realise what a pointless struggle it is to fight for a fundamentalism when the path to happiness is education, work and self-enrichment. It'll take time and a much more enlightened foreign policy from the US and the west, but maybe it can be achieved.
but to make the alternatives look much more attractive"
Give an example because that seems very hard if salvation for eternity is offered with 77 virgins!
OBL is more than just a terrorist, he is an eloquent speaker, poetic and trusting to so many people. That is why to date, you have never ever seen even the most moderate Muslims, even living far away, denounce him. They, well most, believe in the man. Seems his agenda is better than any westerner can put out.
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rjd_jr at 08:11 AM JST - 4th August
Finally some good news from there.
USAPatriot at 08:22 AM JST - 4th August
Hey!! The evil doers are losing. We are wiping terrorism off the map.
Way to go USA!!!
skipthesong at 09:08 AM JST - 4th August
Finally some good news from there." no offense rjd, but I am surprised you would post words like that.
nandakandamanda at 02:58 PM JST - 4th August
“We tell the enemies of God that God has saved those who will be even more painful for you,” it said. “As Abu Khabab has gone, he left behind, with God’s grace, a generation of faithful students who will make you suffer the worst torture and avenge him and his brothers.”
Look at this statement. It is 'good' in the sense that they really know how to use propaganda to capture fresh recruits. Into the net they swim, and then a violent twisting takes place until the recruit is too terrified not to obey.
How is it, that the normal human world rarely has anything effective to say in response?
It is a complete lie, of course, because it starts from the supposition that they are the friends of God, which they are obviously and blatantly not. They act as if they have a right to talk about God's grace, which they cannot ever have experienced. The word God is cynically used for political ends, and it assumes that God doesn't actually exist. (Otherwise they would be in deep trouble for what they are doing in the name of God.) Since when does God enjoy torturing people? God is merely a useful concept to an end. An easily-gabbled word. A very dangerous game in which black is openly and loudly declared white, and no one has the courage to squeak back. The Emperor's New Clothes indeed. And thousands of people continue suffer and die daily as a result of the policies of these manipulators.
Sarge at 04:26 PM JST - 4th August
"The U.S. had placed a $5 million bounty on al-Masri"
What's the bounty on Binny? $50 million?
nandakandamanda at 04:29 PM JST - 4th August
Does anyone ever collect on these bounties?
frontandcentre at 05:14 PM JST - 4th August
nanda, unless they pay the drone pilot who fired the missile, I guess it's not likely to change hands.
While I welcome success in fighting armed ciminals, the best way to fight fundamentalism is actually not with missile and bullets, but to make the alternatives look much more attractive to those AQ would otherwise recruit. AQ is shooting itself in both feet by killing so many other muslims in Iraq, and its power is dwindling there, thanks mainly to the unity of the opposition to these killers.
I hope young people in Pakistan and Afghanistan come to realise what a pointless struggle it is to fight for a fundamentalism when the path to happiness is education, work and self-enrichment. It'll take time and a much more enlightened foreign policy from the US and the west, but maybe it can be achieved.
skipthesong at 07:34 PM JST - 4th August
but to make the alternatives look much more attractive" Give an example because that seems very hard if salvation for eternity is offered with 77 virgins!
OBL is more than just a terrorist, he is an eloquent speaker, poetic and trusting to so many people. That is why to date, you have never ever seen even the most moderate Muslims, even living far away, denounce him. They, well most, believe in the man. Seems his agenda is better than any westerner can put out.
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