Al-Qaida leader in Yemen threatens new U.S. attacks
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realist
More Fanatical Muslims planning to attack "Christian" countries.
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adaydream
I hadn't heard that they had quit with their threats. New threats, huh. Like we've put down our guard, not. < :-)
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kokorocloud
Barbaric.
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sabiwabi
You should also put the quotation marks on "Muslims", these guys only pretend to be Muslims, thus providing excuses for the west to attack Muslim countries.
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kinniku
Interesting. In January of this year, the Yemen Interior Ministry claimed Qasim al-Raimi had been killed along with four of his lieutenants. Supposedly, it was confirmed that he was dead. Oops! I guess not.
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goddog
These are not real Muslims. Real Muslims are like those in Turkey, and in local bars here in Tokyo drinking a beer with you and having a good time.
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kinniku
Yeah, sure. Like the Taliban.
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TumbleDry
realist: No. They want people to think is a religion war but it isn't. Religion is a medium. Those fanatics just want power. That's all. Give people a goal, distort writings and you get the mess we have now.
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Odogma
I think I speak for quite a few ppl here when I say I really wish I could watch you travel to rural Yemen and deliver your judgment in person.
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sabiwabi
I'm sure that if most of the world's oil happened to be in Buddhist countries, there would be a group dressed up as Buddhists with a Buddhist-sounding name, that would pop up whenever the west needed an excuse to attack these oil-rich countries. Look up Adam Pearlman, he's one of the top Al Quaeda guys.
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Helter_Skelter
So who are they really, sabi? Mossad agents? CIA? Freemasons? Illuminati? Rosicrucians perhaps?
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Odogma
I'm not pretty sure - - I am absolutely sure - - that if most of the world's oil happened to be in Buddhist countries they'd be even more advanced than they already are, which is pretty damn far ahead of any Mohammedan nation, by any measure imaginable.
You don't even want to imagine what Israel would be like if it sat atop the kind of resources Saudi Arabia has...
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Helter_Skelter
But Obama is president now. Why don't they like us?!
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john_smith
USA IS NOT safe under the obama adminstration, since he became president, obama dismantled all the anti terror method used by the bush administration,
he promised to shut down GITMO, banned harsh interogation against terrorists, he wanted to read them their MIRANDA RIGHTS and serve them ICE TEA,
HE IS trying to put KSM the 911 mastermind on a civilian court
GEORGE WILL BE ALWAYS MISSED, HE PROTECTED OUR COUNTRY, AND HE HAD THE GUT TO GO AFTER TERRORISTS,
BARAK OBAMA WANTS TO TALK TO TERRORISTS AND BOW TO EVERY DICTATOR IN THE WORLD
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sabiwabi
That's so funny John, good one!
If Obama does indeed shut GITMO, where will the CIA recruit Al Qaeda members?
Anyway, it seems Bush accomplished his assignment of getting Iraq and Afghanistan. Now Obama is moving to the next stage, targeting Yemen and Pakistan, and eventually Iran.
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Helter_Skelter
If Obama had the cajones to take out Pakistan's and Iran's nuclear programs, I'd switch parties from republican to democrat and vote for him in 2012.
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kinniku
Not nearly as hilarious as when a small number of people claim Israel was involved.
I don't know what news you are watching. However, neither country is 'gotten' by any stretch of the imagination.
To suggest the US is somehow behind al-Quaeda attacks is equally hilarious. The US government can't keep a cocktail dress secret never mind something as fantastic as attacks supposedly made to look like al-Quaeda.
The fact is, there are extremists in all religions. That does not mean they represent their faiths. The concern comes from a lack of strong consistent criticism from mainstream Muslims to these kinds of threats.
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sabiwabi
Well, now western oil companies have all of Iraq's oil; before they had none. And now the US has a massive presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, well positioned for the next stage. And I'm sure the pipelines they planned before 9/11 are coming along nicely. Soooo, what news have YOU been watching.
Indeed, and another fact is that governments have various agencies that do illegal things. Remember Dubai?
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kinniku
As I wrote earlier, The fact is, there are extremists in all religions. That does not mean they represent their faiths. The concern comes from a lack of strong consistent criticism from mainstream Muslims to these kinds of threats. Mainstream Muslims need to publically display their dissatisfaction with their religion being hijacked in the way al-Quaeda has hijacked Islam.
That is not correct. In a recent Iraq auction of oil deals, the deals were largely snapped up by the Russians and Chinese. The Uniteds States was noticably absent and did not get those deals.
The pipelines planned for Afghanistan are coming along anything but nicely. Most projects were given up long before 2001 because of the security situation. That situation has not improved.
Yup. I also remember that, as of yet, only Palestinians have been arrested.
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Sarge
I guess this is only fair. After all, Obama has threatened to attack al Qaida.
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sabiwabi
Oh, mainstream Muslims haven't stopped criticizing Al Qaeda and terrorism. But of course the MSM is part of this anti-muslim propaganda campaign, so we don't get to see many of these complaints. I guess that is where you get most of your info.
Anyway, expanding on my previous comment: it is a fact that governments have various spy agencies, and many are involved in murdering and committing acts of terrorism, that is nothing new. We also know that these spies tend to disguise themselves.
Since western governments want excuses to attack oil-rich countries, we would expect these spies (CIA, Mossad, MI6,...) to dress up as Muslims and commit false-flags. I don't see why this is so hard for some to imagine.
The Russian and Chinese had important deals before they west wrecked the place. But now, I believe some European countries also have some important deals.
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sabiwabi
They usually say that they attack Al Qaeda, but only end up destroying the countries they allegedly show up in.
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kinniku
I never suggested they had stopped. I suggested there was a lack of strong and consistent criticism to al-Quaeda and these kinds of threats, both in western and non-Western media.
Al-Quaeda are not 'spies' of a country. You seem to be talking about something completely different to al-Quaeda. Perhaps, you should consider discussing spies in a discussion about spies.
I can imagine fantasies as much as the next person. However, these fantasies do not apply to al-Quaeda in Yemen or anywhere else.
I am talking about the latest auction just a month or two ago in which in a recent Iraq auction of oil deals, the deals were largely snapped up by the Russians and Chinese. The Uniteds States was noticably absent and did not get those deals. You were claiming the US had all the oil. Although you wrote western companies, you were clearly discussing the US and you specifically mentioned it. You were mistaken. The US companies got no oil deals.
This is your personal assumption. It is not established fact.
Again, this is your personal assumption. It is not established fact. There is no evidence to suggest that al-Quaeda is a front for any country. Nor is there evidence to suggest that al-Quaeda's terrorism or threats are 'false flags'.
Moderator: Kinniku and sabiwabi, please stop engaging in these tit-for-tat exchanges. Focus your comments on the topic, not at each other. If you want to refute a post, then please do it in a general way, rather than a sentence-by-sentence analysis.
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sabiwabi
No, I wrote: "Well, now western oil companies have all of Iraq's oil; before they had none. And now the US has a massive presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, well positioned for the next stage.
I do know some European countries have some juicy deals, whether it was from this last auction or not...
Moderator: Back on topic please. The subject is Al-Qaida in Yemen.
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HeyLars
Interesting what people choose to believe, and also what they pretend they do not believe.
It is perfectly reasonable to believe that western nations create their own little terrorist plots to foil. See the SAS in Basra in 2005 and the amazing serious of events that happened after those 2 soldiers masquerading as insurgents were caught. The question is to what degree are they are masquerading not "if" they are.
Its also amazing how we are supposed to believe these two bit militants in Yemen and elsewhere are a threat to us. You don't need a sniffer dog to smell them coming so give me a break! The trouble is them assisting Al-Qaida. And all the militant and terrorist groups are being given more credence thanks to Coalition troops hanging out way too long in the Middle East. But that only means the black ops people can relax. Certain people are getting exactly what they want and they know what you will choose to believe or choose not to believe. They know how weak your mind is and how you cling to authority to save you. And while you get your little hug, they pick your pocket!
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kinniku
sabiwabi,
There is absolutely no evidence to support the theory that al-Quaeda in Yemen are spies, false flags or anything of the sort. The Taliban recognizes the existence of al-Quaeda. The government of Yemen recognizes the existence of al-Quaeda.
It seemed to me you were referring to the US when you wrote, " And now the US has a massive presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, well positioned for the next stage." As European countries in Iraq or Afghanistan, they were in business with Iraq before this all started as well. However, it is the Chinese and Russians making the deals now, not the Americans, to the chagrine of the US companies I would imagine.
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