Monday May 28, 2012

Anti-capitalist protesters defy calls to quit St Paul's cathedral

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    some14some

    “I think there is a lot of greed from a small number of people.”

    Hope everyone will agree to it. Thumbs down?

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    Antonios_M

    Hope everyone will agree to it. Thumbs down?

    Thumb up from me! Of course there's going to be greedy people though, as long as humanity exists. It is definitely part of the human nature and it is not going to change anytime soon. The problem is how to make the regulation efficient enough in order to deal with these greedy people and prevent any huge inequalities.

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    tkoind2

    There should be no surprise the religion has nearly always come down on the side of the establishment and on the side of capitalism. After all organized religion has been a partner with the state establishment in nearly every government since the concept arose. I am neither shocked nor surprised by this fact, and no person with a foundation in history should be.

    At the same time I think that protesting the church is a profound waste of energy. Western religion especially is a capitalist institution heavily invested in earning, keeping and managing money. It is not in their best interests for anti-capitalist movements to succeed. Their patrons are nearly all key capitalists.

    Refocus your attention on the real threats. Corporations. They are the linch pin that can change government, not the church.

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    DS

    So, either the protesters are stinky hippies enjoying the chance for some weed and an anonymous shag, or they are ordinary folk who need a pint or three to wind down after a hard day of shouting.

    In either case, what does the church have to do with it? Go protest at parliament, or the business district. I dont see the need to camp there. It's rude and inconsiderate.

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    The Munya Times

    Capitalism, greed . They have already passed over them, it's about creating a new world order based on different values stripping humankind off all the democratic and moral values we have created in thousands of years of evolution. Evolution is over, natural selection is upon us. But natural selection doesn't create anything, it just scans the world continuously and removes everything that doesn't fit in, in the moment of scanning. But those wasted values might be needed tomorrow.

    Capitalism brought many great things to us and them the capitalists now are our gravediggers i.e. the lords of the world leading people against nature, drying out our planet of both, natural an human resources especially in the past few decades when they got unprecedented technological backup.

    They created double structure especially in economic and monetary aspects ; a nation state and a global state . They make the nation state to cover the global state's destruction that a privileged minority carries out in order to sustain their elevated needs and necessities while depleting all resources and human values of the world.

    Anti-capitalist protests and demonstrations are toys as they are organized therefore controllable, they are their best friends, as politicians, bankers and execs are used to face poeple's barricading in the background and they have learned how to control and take advantage of it.

    There's another danger a bigger one , when highly individual unorganized civil disobedience kicks in, completely uncontrollable and will result in terrible civil wars.

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    DS

    Creating a new world order... hahahahaha.

    They can't even organize their own hygiene. Who would trust such people to create anything other than a mess and a racket?

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    The Munya Times

    DSOct. 27, 2011 - 11:46AM JST

    Can't agree more but that's what they trying to do and they have managed to create destruction enough. don't under estimate their power. An insignificant minority is enough.

    Look it's like wine and sewage water. If you have a barrel of gentle wine and a barrel of sewage and you add one drop of gentle wine to the barrel of sewage, nothing will happen it won't change the sewage into wine . But if you add one drop of sewage to the barrel of wine it will change the whole wine into sewage.

    That's the power of your "hahahaha" elite that can't even organize their own hygiene. That's a tremendous power. Don't under estimate their power. They can create new world order simply by their unhygienic presence. Simply by being here among us.

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    kurisupisu

    They are protesting about a mess made by greedy people-good luck to them!

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    smithinjapan

    Is it public property? Are these people tax-payers? If yes to both, there should be zero question about their right to be there. At least they're trying to work with the church and officials to try and keep things healthy. The bigger question is why the police were allowed to bar them from demonstrating in the business area.

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    Spidapig24

    Just do what they did in Melbourne, cite a bylaw banning camping in the public area give them a couple of days then send the police in. Maybe the use of water cannon as well (as most wouldnt have bathed in a while). If they are so worried about greed and wealth maybe they should go get themselves a job and start accumulating some wealth themselves. Oh wait silly me its easier to sit on their lazy good for nothing buts with their hand out taking dole payments and protesting about the rich rather than actually go and earn a dollar

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    unreconstructed

    Forced to close for the first time since WW2, when an army of foreign totalitarian socialists tried to destroy it.

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    Madverts

    "Forced to close for the first time since WW2, when an army of foreign totalitarian socialists tried to destroy it."

    The Nazi's were far from socialists, oldest Friend. In fact, it's as intellectually challenged an accusation as calling NK a people's republic. And you've been told this quite a few time over the years and years you've posted here! Ah well, horse to water and all...

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    Madverts

    Why are they using St Pauls as their protest ground anyway? Surely the beef with capitalism could be taken to the capitalists themselves rather than the church?

    The UK is sinking under it's ridiculous PC dementia further each month. Just look at all that recent stupidity moving along those travellers that were dwelling illegaly.

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    unreconstructed

    The Nazi's were far from socialists,

    Small but crucial hint here: 'Nazi' was an abbreviation.

    • Moderator

      Stay on topic please. The Nazis are not relevant to this discussion.

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    brunny

    Please remember this is a tiny tiny amount of people that seem to appear at every 'new cause' they are truly despised by the overwhelming majority of the British public. And what makes it even worse is the fact that many of them are not British and come from all over Europe. Another annoying factor is that the BBC gives so much coverage to what is basically a non news story, however the BBC is so left wing infiltrated that it should be flying the red flag from it's HQ. Reality is simple these anarchists have made their point and should now disperse they are breaking the law and could be arrested the offence : Wilful Obstruction of the Highway. In reality the Church does not want to be seen as the aggressors and they are frightened to act. My view is simple arrest them all for Breach of the Queens peace and get them 'Bound over to keep the peace'

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