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Anxiety over Trump cuts into House Republicans' support

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Actually, the biggest danger we face if the Republicans win the White House isn't Trump, it's Paul Ryan.

If there isn't a Democrat President, or a Democratic majority in the senate, there won't be any opposition to Ryan's economic plans. He will be able to follow through on his proposals to gut social security, medicare and medicaid funding, and further destroy any economic opportunity for low-income Americans. The middle class wouldn't survive his brand of libertarianism.

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Party leaders fear Trump’s candidacy could cost Republicans control of the Senate. Even in the House, where Republicans command the largest majority in decades and are unlikely to lose control, vulnerable members are visibly nervous

They have good reason to be sweating. If the election were held today, Trump would get clobbered, and Team Dem would take back the Senate.

And while Trump may not care whether Bush and Rmoney support him, he should. 'Cause Trump don't have the 2 billion to run a presidential campaign. (2 billion. Yeah, I know. Sanders is right, eh?)

Let's face it: the Republican party is the for the billionaire class. They've only been viable for decades because they've played off of racial animus fear of social change. Now that the rubes have woken up -- in part -- to how they've been used and abused by people like Rmoney and Bush, they're in full revolt.

I think most the so-called moderate Republicans will come home. I may be wrong. We'll know in after Ryan and Trumpy meet this Thursday.

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WASHINGTON — Anxiety over Donald Trump spread among congressional Republicans Monday, pushing several to follow House Speaker Paul Ryan’s lead and withhold their support from the divisive billionaire. Ryan himself declared there’s no point in trying to “fake” party unity.

Thankyou! Mr. Speaker! Hear Hear

When Trump plays to a room of buffoones he's a hero. Very much like the game show host he is.

When Trump plays to a room of hard working Americans, with skin in the game?

Not so much.

Speaker Ryan is thankfully sticking with talking the language of American Citizens, not paid cheerleaders from Donald J. Trump.

When Sarah Palin starts chirpp'in 'Ryan's Gonna Be Fly'in . . . out the door you bet-cha' the sit-com/gameshow of Trump is pathetic.

Too many, have lost too much, to be as reckless, as Donald J. Trump needs them to be, to vote for him.

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Palin said she will support Ryan's opponent in the election. She even went on TV to make her declaration.

Just awesome. Now the GOP can deal with the mental midget on their own.

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A no confidence vote needs to be taken on Paul Ryan and if enough votes a WI recall election can be made.

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Not American, but watching the American politics is getting more and more like watching Japanese politics.

What does the Republican party stand for? What does the LDP stand for? Depends on the leader at the time as to whether you'll get "big government" or "small government".

Democratic party and Minshinto? Not such a good comparison as Minshinto are completely disorganized, but today's Democratic party isn't your JFK or Bill Clinton Democractic party, that's for sure.

Ideally it'd be better to have four options instead of two.

The way things are in the US and a lot of places, a lot of people can't pick between the two options and find a favourable mix of economic and social policies. You have to sacrifice one or the other, and in case of economic policies this time around Trump and Clinton are both making proposals that aren't going to be boosting global economic growth any time soon (JMHO).

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"Ever confident, Trump announced that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a former foe but now an enthusiastic supporter, would head his transition team as he heads for the White House after the election."

Can the U.S. get rid of the Electoral College system in time for a popular vote Nov. election?

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Similarly while the GOP is in tension the DNC shares a similar scenario. If Bernie were leading in delagates the same could be said for the Dems. Clearly, USA is no longer happy with status quo. Either you embrace extreem left or further right than the GOP wishes.

2020, third or fourth party year? I've been waiting......

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The Pelosi quote regarding the ACA often bandied about by Republicans - “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it” - was taken wildly out of context, but the same sentiment applied to Trump would be quite justified. Politico had a story this morning regarding Trump's shape-shifting on policy and how that offends the sensibilities of serious people, those types of experts on who presidents rely.

“He doesn’t want to waste time on policy and thinks it would make him less effective on the stump,” the Trump source said. “It won’t be until after he is elected but before he’s inaugurated that he will figure out exactly what he is going to do and who he is going to try to hire.”

You can't blame them, of course. Tying their horse to this wagon now would likely drag them to perpetual disgrace; trying to sign up after his victory would lead them into the peril of serving a very dangerous administration. A former Bush Administration official noted,

“The bottom line is Trump will be able to fill these jobs because there is a whole class of people who want these titles so badly it doesn’t matter who is president. But these are B- or C-level people. They are honorable, but not very good. The A-level people, and there are not that many of them to begin with, mostly don’t want to work for Trump. He will cut the A-level bench of available policy talent at least in half, if not more.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-administration-transition-222944

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The decades-long faux write-in candidacy of Mad magazine's Alfred E. Neuman may finally come to fruition in 2016.

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"Can the U.S. get rid of the Electoral College system in time for a popular vote Nov. election?" - comments

Can the Green Party get the Second Amendment repealed before the RNC/GOP rides high and wide into Cleveland?

Too many, have seen too much, of Donald J. Trump.

Now they have to have the parrot princess in the processional?

Where's Ann Coulter?

Anxiety isn't the word House Republicans use about Trump. Disgust more likely. Rush Limbaugh won after all.

The integrity and stalwart dedication to each and every American Citizen the GOP fought for and now, Donald J. Trump screams The GOP is useless? Like a NATO?

Where is the humanity?

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Similarly while the GOP is in tension the DNC shares a similar scenario. If Bernie were leading in delagates the same could be said for the Dems. Clearly, USA is no longer happy with status quo. Either you embrace extreem left or further right than the GOP wishes.

2020, third or fourth party year? I've been waiting......

The problems are heating up for the Democrats as well, but the lack of luster and fire of interest is much lower, but it's lingering nonetheless. Dems and libs can spin it any whichaway they want, but as you rightfully said, the people are not happy with the status quo, the liberal politicians are and want to keep it that way. As long as they can linger in the cesspool of racism rhetoric, they have a shot at keeping themselves in the spotlight. Of course, the liberals fear Trump because THERE is a chance he could win and win big, he's already completely crushed the GOP and there is NO reason why he couldn't do the same to Hillary, you have to be a complete moonbat to believe that Hillary is NOT a flawed candidate and lucky for Trump as bold and brass as he is, expect him to hit Hillary without any kid gloves and it won't be pretty, he's got a lot of ammunition and Hillary and her camp, what do they have? What can they get Trump on that hasn't already been said and done by the GOP....all 17 of them and nothing worked. So, let the Dems try, I'm not a Kool ad drinker and will say, it's a slam dunk, because at this point, the general election could swing either way.

Just awesome. Now the GOP can deal with the mental midget on their own.

Hmmm, looking at Palin's resume and Obama's, I would say, Obama is quite small, mentally as well as academically.

The Pelosi quote regarding the ACA often bandied about by Republicans - “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it” - was taken wildly out of context,

No, it was not, the Dems ran a very bad legislation through on a program that was totally flawed, over 10,000 pages and without a SINGLE GOP vote. No one was going to read it, you couldn't, the Dems couldn't and we now see, the entire thing was a complete fabricated ruse, so much so that so many hospitals are refusing to take Obamacare and that number is steadily rising.

but the same sentiment applied to Trump would be quite justified. Politico had a story this morning regarding Trump's shape-shifting on policy and how that offends the sensibilities of serious people, those types of experts on who presidents rely.

All politicians flip-flop on policies, just part of the territory. Hillary is an expert at that.

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These old school establishment Republicans just arent getting their own way and so they are pouting. Times have changed and the Republicans completely failed their voters when they had control in the congress. They didnt follow through on any promises. They failed and now the voters want a different leader for their party. Theyll miss their corrupt do nothing for the people days soon enough. They go on about Trumps conservatism but the partys name is the Republican party not the Conservative party. Trump isn`t very conservative on the social side but on the economic, security, trade, sovereignty side he is the most conservative.

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Right now,, Trump is shouting and Clinton is shouting. Sounds Clinton is outshouting. Clinton is louder.

FBI gave results of e mail in estimation. It can not find gov't printed secret e mail. Privately Hillary wrote secret is not they are looking for. Something like that somcarefully listen any news channels today and tomorrow.

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Trump noted the other day that he's really good at debt and that America could simply default if need be, which is clearly the most insane thing a serious presidential candidate has ever said. Yesterday on CNN, trying to dig himself out of that hole, he dug himself in further:

People said I want to go and buy debt and default on debt, and I mean, these people are crazy. This is the United States government,. First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you, OK?

Except for the "hate to tell" part, fine so far. But!

I said if we can buy back government debt at a discount, in other words, if interest rates go up and we can buy bonds back at a discount -- if we are liquid enough as a country, we should do that. In other words, we can buy back debt at a discount.

Clearly the guy has no idea how government bond markets work. If the government finances at a time of relative low rates (such as now), there would never be a need to refinance; if at a time of relative high rates, there would be no way. Interest rates on bonds are fixed - unlike company bonds which may rise and fall with the prospect of the borrower eventually paying (fall, mostly, in the case of Trump's ventures), T-bills are fixed. The Economist explains it here for those who have never taken Econ101. (Trump apparently learned nothing from that business school he purportedly attended.)

http://www.economist.com/blogs/buttonwood/2016/05/trumps-latest-policy-idea

Seriously, the man is a menace.

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That article from the Economist is more a hit piece and explained the T-Note bond/bill market very poorly. Also did not explain the differences between The Treasury and The (private) Federal Reserve.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/tbills/res_tbill.htm (Explains T-Bill bidding process = I would not call it a "fixed" price or market)

T-Bonds and even T-Bills are complicated and you really need to seek the advice of a "Bond professional" to make sure you are getting the best deal initially and especially if you decide to redeem early. US Treasury Series EE (Savings Bonds) held to maturity is maybe the simplest of these debt notes (bonds). Save on State taxes which is a bonus. Use the Treasury calculator on your notes before you redeem them.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/tools/tools_savingsbondcalc.htm

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badsey, you're missing the point, looking at it from a creditor's rather than a debtor's view. Certainly, bonds are traded on the market, but it is an economic impossibility for the US to repurchase bonds at a lower interest rate than they were issued. Thus, Trump saying "We can buy bonds back at a discount" illustrates his complete ignorance of the T-bill market, hinting at his cluelessness of how the government actually functions.

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Bass,

Hmmm, looking at Palin's resume and Obama's, I would say, Obama is quite small, mentally as well as academically.

Obama attended Occidental College, graduated from Columbia University, and left Harvard Law School magna cum laude. To say that his academic accomplishments are small makes you sound like a petulant child. To say his resume is somehow lacking when compared to Sarah "I can see Russia from my front door step so I know about foreign policy" Palin makes you sound just plain foolish.

... so many hospitals are refusing to take Obamacare and that number is steadily rising.

Ah, if only the world actually operated based on cherry-picked facts. One, there is no comprehensive database or even research to indicate any precise number of hospitals and/or doctors, ahem, "rejecting" ACA.

Two, the evidence that does exist is largely anecdotal, i.e., "I heard a friend of mine couldn't use his insurance at a hospital once." Yeah, that kind of data.

Three, across the broader canvas of ACA's impact on healthcare access for Americans who otherwise went without, all indicators are that it has greatly increased.

All politicians flip-flop on policies, just part of the territory. Hillary is an expert at that.

An "expert," is she? Give me five solid, verifiable examples of Clinton changing her mind on legislation or policy. And no, the vote to go to war with Iraq doesn't count, since everyone of import walked back their position on that particular foreign policy disaster. Five should be easy enough, yeah? She's an "expert" after all, right?

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In no reality is this kind of infantile hate-baiting seen as clever or cool.

The bigots see it as clever and cool.

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bass: Hmmm, looking at Palin's resume and Obama's, I would say, Obama is quite small, mentally as well as academically.

Please, please, please model your own children after the women who can't form a full sentence and goes into interviews with stuff written on their hands. That would be just awesome to me. And so appropriate.

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@fxguy : we do not appreciate ignorant person mention Japanese political procedure to insult Japan. Stick to your country. Japanese election procedure differs. Try to insult Japan somewhere else's article.

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They failed and now the voters want a different leader for their party.

Let's amend that a bit. The GOP failed it's constituency by pretending to support viewpoints that were extreme, then when it came down to legislation time, made the right call and opted instead for moderation and compromise. This pissed of the Tea Pary folks. This passed off the xenophobia. This pissed off the anti-afrimative action folks. This pissed off the "a woman's place is in the home" folks.

And now the bill has come due. Witness the low disintegration of the Republican Party.

You think Trump is any sort of savior for these folks? He's as establishment as they come and even now is in the process of throwing under the bus all of the rabid imbeciles who really thought the asshat was going to deport 11 million illegal immigrants, build a wall across the southern border with Mexico, and make Mexico pay for it. He is slowly extending a well-prepared middle finger to the folks who really thought he was going to lock Muslims out of the country -- except for his friends, of course. He's telling those folks who really thought he was going to put the kibbosh on minimum wage hikes, tax hikes for the wealthy, and a stop to US jobs trickling out of the country due to corporate and stockholder greed to shut up and understand that, ahem, *"this is a negotiation."

He's a fraud.

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