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Appeals court reverses California gay marriage ban

World Feb. 08, 2012 - 06:26AM JST ( 13 )

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Opponents of Proposition 8 demonstrate outside of the Ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals

Same-sex couple Frank Capley-Alfano (L) and Joe Capley-Alfano celebrate a ruling that struck down a ban on gay marriage

Opponents of Proposition 8 celebrate outside of the Ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals

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SuperLibFeb. 08, 2012 - 08:33AM JST

Ha!
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Greapper1Feb. 08, 2012 - 09:18AM JST

I'm sure the religious conservatives will file an appeal...
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SushiSake3Feb. 08, 2012 - 10:35AM JST

I'm wondering how this ruling will directly affect the marriages of those in America who oppose same sex marriage?

The way I see it, America's religious right are largely responsible for their own teeth gnashing wrt this issue, since they hold such bigoted, anti-freedom, anti human rights views.
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WolfpackFeb. 08, 2012 - 11:41AM JST

It's pretty stupid that the government is involved in marriage at all. Even allowing same sex marriage is discriminatory against other potential kinds of marriage. How about the bisexuals in the GLBT group? The government is still discriminating in a matter that he shouldn't be putting it's nose into in the first place. If you want to get "married" go to a church and get married. If you want to have a domestic partnership, see a lawyer to set up a private contract between the two (or more) parties involved. If one of the parties breaks the contract, then let the government (in the form of the judiciary) get involved to settle the dispute. There is no need for this government intervention into the private affairs of people.
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FruitsBasketFanFeb. 08, 2012 - 03:45PM JST

Here is the problem: As shocking as it is (no, not really).....Not everyone is religious nor part of a religion!

You are going to need to let the government know that you are marry if you wish to joint your taxes, together.

The only reason why government should be involved is to make sure that all heterosexuals and homosexuals get equal treatment if they want to get married.
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It"S MEFeb. 08, 2012 - 03:49PM JST

In my country religious marriage and legal marriage are 100% separate.

Legal marriage is between 2 people making a commitment to each other. Church has no say in that one.
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unreconstructedFeb. 08, 2012 - 06:40PM JST

sushisake3

I'm wondering how this ruling will directly affect the marriages of those in America who oppose same sex marriage?

Am I the only one creeped out by that ?

The way I see it, America's religious right are largely responsible for their own teeth gnashing wrt this issue, since they hold such bigoted, anti-freedom, anti human rights views

. California is where the ruling took place. It is not all of America. Heh.What ol' sushi doesn't know about US politics could fill an entire website. This decision reverses what happened election day Nov 2008. Yeah, California, which went heavily for Obama, also opposes gay marriage. Liberal Blacks and Hispanics aren't so liberal about other topics. Wake up, smell the "diversity" there, sushi.
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MadvertsFeb. 08, 2012 - 06:46PM JST

"Church has no say in that one."

The Church should have a say in nothing other than what goes on behind the closed doors of their sects.
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Citizen14Feb. 08, 2012 - 10:55PM JST

It's pretty stupid that the government is involved in marriage at all.

Stupid is defintely one way to look at it, and fair enough. The government should not be involved.

The way I see it is that this is an effort by religious types and convservatives to maintain a power, through government, over our lives they know darn well they have no right to exercise. Of course, some of them actually do believe they are doing us all a mighty favor, as if preventing government recognized gay marriage will somehow prevent gayness and recognizing it will suddenly lead to a rapid rise in gayness.

Especially the religious types need to recognize the fact that they live in a secular country or GTFO. Pretending your religion based decision is fit to put into secular law is a lie, and your god knows you are lying.
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MadvertsFeb. 08, 2012 - 11:43PM JST

" when it was Obama's core constituency in the state who are the "homophobes" and "haters" in this case."

How do you know the same people who voted for Obama voted for Prop.8?
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unreconstructedFeb. 09, 2012 - 08:49PM JST

How do you know the same people who voted for Obama voted for Prop.8?

Next time do the search and math yourself . The state is about 40 percent 'Hispanic', 10 - 15 pcnt 'Asian' ,almost 10 percent 'black' and 5 percent of "two or more races." Obama won by historic margins in California. But that same day Prop 8 passed.

LATimes blog:

"70% of African Americans backed Prop. 8, exit poll finds" November 5, 2008

Washington Times:

"The record turnout of black and Hispanic voters played a key role in the victory of President-elect Barack Obama, but in California that same racial and ethnic factor also was instrumental in the passage of Proposition 8, a ballot measure that declares marriage as the union of a man and a woman. "

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/08/blacks-hispanics-nixed-gay-marriage/?page=all
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jforceFeb. 10, 2012 - 10:49AM JST

Agreed. The government has no place in the commitment between 2 people. However, what is scarier here is the government has now taken the democratic choice of the people of California and said, "Hey we don't agree with your legal democratic vote" and have moved it onto the supreme court. Is this democracy? And speaking of marriage, why do gays want to be members of a broken system anyway? Marriage is a failed institution that is not respected by 60% of people who divorce anyway. Can't they simply draw up their wills with wishes of whom can be present at the hospital and who will receive compensation if the other passes? I don't see why same-sex couples can't think of a better way to handle this then wanting the status quo of a failed marriage.
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Pruitt Igoe 72Feb. 10, 2012 - 12:36PM JST

The poor righties don't know what has hit em. The old fashioned institution of marriage has been weakened to near extinction, but claiming and even better demanding gay marriage get recognized as the most important issue EVER has proven to be a great wedge issue for us progressives to use against haters.