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hoserfella
With the continued violence Iraq will surely face as the US exits, its time to consider bringing Dubya and Cheney before the Hague.
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Noliving
What that can't be! The world kept saying all these years that if the US left Iraq that the violence would go away/end!
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kokorocloud
“What is going on in the country?”
That's the question we've all been asking since day one.
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TumbleDry
Iraq maybe needs a new dictator "a la" Sadam, to be removed a few years later.
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timtak
"Remember that God has enabled you to become an example of love, forgiveness and brotherly coexistence."
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WilliB
Shiites killing with Sunnis, Sunnis killing Shiites, and both killing non-muslims. What else is new? Enjoy the wonderful liberated Iraq.
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smithinjapan
"Shiites killing with Sunnis, Sunnis killing Shiites, and both killing non-muslims. What else is new? Enjoy the wonderful liberated Iraq."
No kidding... and to think it was relatively secure before the illegal invasion by the US! Now we're headed back to civil/tribal warfare. Line up the next dictator, kids.
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Madverts
"What that can't be! The world kept saying all these years that if the US left Iraq that the violence would go away/end!"
We're seeing more and more Iraq revisionism by the dregs of the invasions' support base, and I certainly don't remember anyone saying that.
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Beelzebub
"Mission Accomplished" (again).
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LIBERTAS
They still do. Muqtadr al Sadr's Mahdi homies rule the entire land. Ain't liberation (from life) just great?
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Madverts
Baghdad, Iraq (CNN) -- "It's so bad, the security situation is so bad in Baghdad, Arwa, it really is you have to believe me," one of our maintenance staff said to me, his eyes welling with tears.
You'd think that eye-witness account would be from the dark days of 2006 or 7. It isn't. It's last week.
The US is leaving not because the mission's accomplished, they're leaving because they can't afford the foray anymore. It's anyone's guess what's going to happen next.
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Sarge
What is wrong with some people?
Eyewitness: "Where is the protection, where are the security troops?"
Quit whining, and join the security forces.
"...and to think it was relatively secure before the illegal invasion by the US"
Relatively secure? Heck, it was paradise on Earth, smith! Ask any Iraqi, lol.
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Sarge
Madverts, the U.S. is leaving because that's what was agreed on between the U.S. and the freely elected Iraqi government.
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Madverts
sarge,
"Quit whining, and join the security forces."
They did, only they were blown up in a car bomb whilst queuing up to recruit....
"the U.S. is leaving because that's what was agreed on between the U.S. and the freely elected Iraqi government"
Currently, Iraq doesn't have a government. The withdrawl was subject to security on the ground, supposedly - but like I said, the withdrawl will happen whatever, because the US cannot afford it's Iraqi folly.
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Noliving
Oh I most certainly do, I remember them saying that the primary cause of the insurgency was the occupation and that if the occupation left the insurgency would end. You can't deny that over 5 years of protesters against the war in Iraq that you didn't hear a single one of them say that the occupation was the biggest motivation for the insurgency and or if the occupation left the insurgency and the war itself in Iraq would end.
So because of one civilian's eye witness account on their perception of the security situation is enough to prove that the factual evidence that shows attacks and casualties(civilian and military) are down more than 90% since the "surge" began that the US didn't accomplish anything? They are leaving because they accomplished what they set out to do and that was to bring the insurgency down to a level that is manageable for Iraqi security forces to deal with in that it doesn't pose a strategic threat in that it is capable of overthrowing the Iraq government.
You can argue all you want to about your eyewitness accounts but the facts show that casualties and violent attacks are down more than 90%.
No the withdrawal was subject to the timeline in the SOFA, the SOFA though was purposely created so that it would allow the Iraqi's to change the withdrawal date as they wish.
Actually the US can afford its Iraqi folly, you do realize that according to the US government and the pentagon that the months in which the US was withdrawing its soldiers cost more money then if they were just maintaining a force of around 135k in Iraq. You do know that right?
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Noliving
I mean if they can't afford the war in Iraq then the USA clearly can't afford the war in Afghanistan and yet they are still fighting that war, your argument will be but the US is withdrawing beginning of July of 2011, and that isn't true what it means is that the US is going to be handing over certain responsibilities over to the afghan government but there will virtually no troop withdrawals from Afghanistan.
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Sarge
There will always be nutters scausing trouble.
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Madverts
"There will always be nutters scausing trouble"
Two dozen attacks in one day?
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Madverts
"You can argue all you want to about your eyewitness accounts but the facts show that casualties and violent attacks are down more than 90%."
10% of the 90% your invasion caused seems nothing to be proud of...
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