I think all Australians should NEVER go to Singapore!Why? Australian law about drug is just toooo light ,but Singapore law is just toooo tough.The environment is so diffetrent ,it is very hard for simple tourists to adjustGood luck Mr.Peter Lloyd.
I have no sympathies for Lloyd, he should have darned well known better. But knowing him and his ilk, I fully expect him to milk the Australian people and government for what they're worth, so that he is the "victim" and how he should not get caned or even be imprisoned, because he is oh so special.
The environment is so diffetrent ,it is very hard for simple tourists to adjust
? It is about a journalist who seems addict to drugs. I guess 5-15 lashes for a drug addict will not be 'that' severe but it will send a strong reminder to drug addict foreigners visiting Singapore.
$100 for 20 years and 15 lashes, eh? Hope it was worth it... although the $100 probably went towards a fine for drinking water on the train or something.
Anyway, anyone who deals or even carries drugs in Singapore -- even the smallest amount -- is a complete moron with a deathwish. And he's lucky he's not getting the death penalty..... if they dude can, he better try to flee the island whilst on bail.
5-15 strokes of the cane and 20 years in prison? Hmmm....
Well, I got caned regularly at school and it was no big deal at all, so, in his shoes I would ask for 20-60 strokes of the cane and 5 years in prison, please.
5-15 strokes of the cane and 20 years in prison? Hmmm....Well, I got caned regularly at school and it was no big deal at all, so, in his shoes I would ask for 20-60 strokes of the cane and 5 years in prison, please.
I'm afraid the cane used in corporal punishment in Singapore varies slightly from the 3 foot ruler your teacher used.
The Singaporean whipping cane is made from hardened and treated bamboo and the strokes are delivered by a trained martial artist.
One well placed blow to upper thigh can cripple for up to a month, arterial rupture and bone fractures are also common.
People who train in martial arts that use this cane (the Rataan) as a weapon, describe it like being hit with a baseball bat or police baton, rather than a "whip" as most people would imagine.
some 14 some,it just annoys me so much for thinking that after the hanging of Nguyen tuong Van few years ago ,there will be no Australian case involving drug in Singapore anymore.There you go,a journalist, an expert,is now alledgedly selling drug... if this is TRUE,he has no excuse that is why I wish him luck;he is going to need a lots of it .In any case Singapore 's drug law is just too harsh for easy -going Australian.
I was never hit on the hand with a ruler, although I believe it is very painful, especially across the knuckles. I found this in Wiki under "caning", describing both what I and many generations of us used to get with a proper cane on the behind, and Singapore's 'judicial' caning. Quite an informative article, actually!
...a maximum of six "strokes" (known as "six of the best"). Such a caning sometimes left a student with weals and bruises, making it painful to sit down for days after the caning...
Now, what you describe, the Rattan in Singapore:
...Judicial caning, carried out with a long, heavy rattan and generally much more severe than the canings given in schools, was a feature of some British colonial judicial systems, and in some cases is still in use in the post-independence era, particularly in Southeast Asia (where it is now being used far more than it was under British rule), and in some African countries. The practice is retained in Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei...
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adaydream at 06:52 AM JST - 19th July
Boy this sucks.
But stupidity know no bounds. < :-)
tclh at 07:28 AM JST - 19th July
I think all Australians should NEVER go to Singapore!Why? Australian law about drug is just toooo light ,but Singapore law is just toooo tough.The environment is so diffetrent ,it is very hard for simple tourists to adjustGood luck Mr.Peter Lloyd.
rjd_jr at 08:06 AM JST - 19th July
I have no sympathies for Lloyd, he should have darned well known better. But knowing him and his ilk, I fully expect him to milk the Australian people and government for what they're worth, so that he is the "victim" and how he should not get caned or even be imprisoned, because he is oh so special.
some14some at 08:58 AM JST - 19th July
? It is about a journalist who seems addict to drugs. I guess 5-15 lashes for a drug addict will not be 'that' severe but it will send a strong reminder to drug addict foreigners visiting Singapore.
smithinjapan at 12:47 PM JST - 19th July
$100 for 20 years and 15 lashes, eh? Hope it was worth it... although the $100 probably went towards a fine for drinking water on the train or something.
Anyway, anyone who deals or even carries drugs in Singapore -- even the smallest amount -- is a complete moron with a deathwish. And he's lucky he's not getting the death penalty..... if they dude can, he better try to flee the island whilst on bail.
Betzee at 01:04 PM JST - 19th July
That's what is so shocking; he's lived in Southeast Asia for a while and covered drug cases involving foreign nationals for the ABC.
nandakandamanda at 04:23 PM JST - 19th July
5-15 strokes of the cane and 20 years in prison? Hmmm....
Well, I got caned regularly at school and it was no big deal at all, so, in his shoes I would ask for 20-60 strokes of the cane and 5 years in prison, please.
nandakandamanda at 04:58 PM JST - 19th July
Oh, and a doctor of my own choosing...
conqueror_of_Uranus at 06:20 PM JST - 19th July
nandakandamanda
I'm afraid the cane used in corporal punishment in Singapore varies slightly from the 3 foot ruler your teacher used.
The Singaporean whipping cane is made from hardened and treated bamboo and the strokes are delivered by a trained martial artist.
One well placed blow to upper thigh can cripple for up to a month, arterial rupture and bone fractures are also common.
conqueror_of_Uranus at 06:34 PM JST - 19th July
Forgot to add;
People who train in martial arts that use this cane (the Rataan) as a weapon, describe it like being hit with a baseball bat or police baton, rather than a "whip" as most people would imagine.
Madverts at 06:35 PM JST - 19th July
"arterial rupture and bone fractures are also common."
Better a few months in agony than 20 years in a thrid world nick I say!
smithinjapan at 07:53 PM JST - 19th July
Madverts: Singapore is not at all 'Third World', though it's prisons may be.
blvtzpk at 08:24 PM JST - 19th July
You know him personally? What's your relationship with him, pray tell?
tclh at 08:52 PM JST - 19th July
some 14 some,it just annoys me so much for thinking that after the hanging of Nguyen tuong Van few years ago ,there will be no Australian case involving drug in Singapore anymore.There you go,a journalist, an expert,is now alledgedly selling drug... if this is TRUE,he has no excuse that is why I wish him luck;he is going to need a lots of it .In any case Singapore 's drug law is just too harsh for easy -going Australian.
nandakandamanda at 09:27 PM JST - 19th July
conqueror of U. Thanks for the clarification.
I was never hit on the hand with a ruler, although I believe it is very painful, especially across the knuckles. I found this in Wiki under "caning", describing both what I and many generations of us used to get with a proper cane on the behind, and Singapore's 'judicial' caning. Quite an informative article, actually!
...a maximum of six "strokes" (known as "six of the best"). Such a caning sometimes left a student with weals and bruises, making it painful to sit down for days after the caning...
Now, what you describe, the Rattan in Singapore:
...Judicial caning, carried out with a long, heavy rattan and generally much more severe than the canings given in schools, was a feature of some British colonial judicial systems, and in some cases is still in use in the post-independence era, particularly in Southeast Asia (where it is now being used far more than it was under British rule), and in some African countries. The practice is retained in Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning
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