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many people consider Israels actions in the middle east to be extremist and a form of terrorism... will these laws also apply to Australians who serve with the Israeli military when they return to Australia??

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Nostromo, do not worry, the extremists who are fighting for AL QAEDA etc..in Syria, Afghanistan etc..already consider regular Aussies scum for not believing in their particular RELIGION, and try to connect all of this to the ISRAEL vs. PALESTINE mess, think about how lucky you are not to be getting attacked yet in YOUR OWN COUNTRY because they Australian security forces are actually trying to STOP these crazy radicals from chopping the heads of any random Aussie in their own towns and cities!

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“Our laws are being changed to make it easier to keep potential terrorists off our streets,”

Potential? Anybody has potential for anything! How about you wait until they actually DO or PLAN something?

Fascism is NOT the answer. Big Brother is NOT the answer. Making a police state is NOT the answer!

This is liking arresting Fighting Tigers returning home from fighting the Japanese in China.

There are plenty of laws, and if you need to make one up from scratch to crack down on people, something is wrong with you.

Plus you just made Australia even more of a terror target. There will be retaliation for this. Great job fools!

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They should simply ban them from re entry on return and send them back to the last airport or sea port they boarded the craft at.

Scum is not welcome.

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I'm not Australian, but I fully agree with the PM's actions. Who would want human trash like this wandering about freely causing trouble in a peaceful society? Arrest them, send them back or send them off to Guantanamo, but don't let them loose.

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Ban them from coming back. Deport the scumbags on arrival. Simple.

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Well ASIO and so on have evidence on them. For a start a jury can find people guilty of murder without watching it take place,or finding the murder weapon. 1 he has known alibi. 2 he was in the Area at the time. 3 he was on the internet looking at pages of how to kill people.................... GUILTY 100% EVERY TIME.

Now how is this any different? 1 ASIO has proof they have visited these IS pages. 2 they have traveled to Syria after going to their pages. 4 ASIO has tracked their phones that showed they crossed the border and moved into them Areas, the IS run and beheaded people. Proof, proof GUILTY............................ Don't need any new laws "really". Charge them and let the judge of the jury find them guilty :)

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Kevin Mills:

" Ban them from coming back. Deport the scumbags on arrival. Simple. "

Sounds simple, but it won´t happen. If ISIS ever collapses (which wont happen soon) and these guys come back, waving their passports, they will be welcomed, and maybe get a slap on the wrist.

And if any these tender creatures actually was detained, the liberal media and intelligentsia would start screaming about discrimination and islamophobia. Mark my words.

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So tell me...if an Aussie went to fight alongside the Assad government, would that be okay?

You folks just are not getting it. This is guilt by association. These people will be arrested and perhaps jailed and the public will not even scratch the surface of what was actually done. There will be prisoners of conscience. The is is Australia's Guantanamo and one would think the lessons of that debacle would be learned by now.

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Australian Government should let Jihadists leave Australia to join ISIS or whatever they wanted join it if their parents and Lawyers have signed permission and never come back to Australia. Keeping Jihadists on home soil is dangerous too.

Muslim leaders are coming out and opposing against last weekend terror raid in Sydney and Brisbane. They said Muslims are targeted by ASIO, AFP and Government but the problem is only Muslim groups in Australia is threatening to security of Australian society.

Not just Islamist extremism, they committed other serious crimes like drug dealing and drug related homicide, shooting, car thieve and rebirth and gang rape on young Aussie girls. All crimes are coming out from Western suburb of Sydney. Every time Police has arrested Muslims or raid Muslims’ home and then the Muslim community leaders will come out and tell to press Police is targeting Muslim Community but they blind eyes on crimes committed by peoples from their Muslim community.

Every day at least one person has died or shot related to drug debt or drug dealing in Western suburb of Sydney. Muslim kills Muslim in Western suburb of Sydney too because of drug debt. They sort out with violent crime.

Vietnamese dealing drug too but they are not violent and do not commit other major crimes like Middle Eastern organized criminals from Western suburb of Sydney. Vietnamese community says nothing when police raid Vietnamese drug dealer home. You can see on TV all Muslim neighbors will come out and shouting and harassing at Police officers when Muslim home was raid for drug related crime or other serious crime.

Australian Government, AFP and ASIO do not targeting Muslim community but they are fighting against terrorists and organized crime. If they don’t want their home raid and their sons arrest by Police and then they should avoid doing crime and living as law abiding citizen.

Government has responsible for safety and security of its citizens and tourists on its soil. So we have to support Government doing its job. Preventive action is better than waiting for innocent person throat was cutting off by terrorist.

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@Jack, GIVE ME A BREAK! Look, I hate FOX NEWS and do not like what BUSH did in Iraq etc..but at the same time, you wanna wait and SIT ON YOUR HANDS??? Oh, BIG BROTHER, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI etc...are out to get INNOCENT CIVILIANS in AUSTRALIA?? NO!! There are already thousands of ANGRY Muslims etc..who feel their religion is being attacked by the WHITE CHRISTIAN WEST, that means the USA, the UK and yes SCOTLAND, Australia etc...oh and you wanna tie all up with ISRAEL, with the JEWS with the ZIONISTS and let us feel sorry for those poor blokes rotting away in GUANTANAMO, the second you let these BLOOD THIRSTING TERRORISTS out of Guantanamo etc..they only come back STRONGER!! So AUSTRALIA should be that cool, relaxed freedom loving country and just let everybody do what ever the heck they want?? Oh yeah! I have an AUSSIE passport but I feel like fighting against SYRIA, etc...you know, tearing out a few hearts, smiling at the cameras, and eating the HUMAN HEART JUST TORN OUT FROM dead Syrian soliders (this in on a REAL VIDEO I found from NBC on YOUTUBE) a Syrian rebel smiling at a video camera, going up to dead SYRIAN SOLDIERS, cutting out their hearts with his HUGE KNIFE, and I think he also tore out the dead solidier SPLEEN or LIVER and eat that too and SMILING AND LAUGHING!!!) So you wanna us to WAIT until you have innocent Australians getting bent over by IS, ISIL, ISIS and getting RAPED and KILLED and have these videos put up on to every JIHADI supporting homepage in the WORLD??? I think anybody who does NOT understand how dangerous the POTENTIAL dangers of these world wide terrorists,well keep sticking your heads in the SAND and if terrorists catch you with your feathers up in the air and attack you, well TOO BAD!!

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Please tone down your rhetoric.

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All I see is people living in paranoia and fear, ready and willing to throw rights under the bus for a false sense of security. All that will happen is that the power brokers of government will have a field day trampling over you.

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Jack, I disagree. Of course people everywhere treasure their rights, however, there have been times throughout history when presidents and prime ministers alike have had to make difficult and controversial decisions for the sake of national security. The Australians were lucky this time and got wind of a public beheading before it could be carried out by ISIS jihadists who seem to be intent upon setting up shop in Australia. It looks like the PM is nipping the problem in the bud rather than waiting for something horrible to happen.

Catch the ISIS jihadists upon entry, arrest them, lock them up and prevent them from causing harm to the public. Nothing wrong with that as far as I can tell.

Can you imagine what the public reaction in Australia would have been like had the Aussies not prevented this public beheading from happening? The Autralian PM did what was expected of him by a public concerned with national security.

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The Australians were lucky this time

No they weren't. According to the government, they did their jobs with in the bounds of the law. I remain suspicious about that, but luck surely has nothing to do with it.

Expanded police powers on Australian citizens without clear evidence of wrong doing is completely out of the question. If they commit war crimes, there should be evidence and they should go before the ICJ.

This move is not rational. Its a knee-jerk emotional reaction on the part of the public to believe it is or to support it.

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_Jack:

" No they weren't. "

Yes they were. If you think that radical Jihadis are not planning more terrorist attacks in Australia right now, you are dreaming.

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