Birth control row 'senseless': top Obama ally

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    JapanGal

    Why do these religious groups want to control women's bodies? It is none of their business.. We are not slaves.

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    cleo

    I don't see that contraception or abortion (except for medical reasons) should be paid for out of health insurance funds or taxes; like pregnancy, getting laid is not an illness.

    Next they'll be saying push-up bras and anti-wrinkle cream should be covered by insurance.

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    SushiSake3

    'Republicans, seizing an opportunity to hammer the White House, have accused Obama of waging war on religious freedom....•

    Lol!!!

    Good try, but it's clear as day the GOP is only making this an issue to divert attention from the fact that their nutcase mob of presidential candidates are devoid of any credible strategies to right the economy that aren't simply totally laughable.

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    SushiSake3

    The only 'war' being waged in this case is the ongoing war conservatives are waging to strip rights to choice, freedom, health and dignity from women in America.

    That's the war that matters and that's the war the conservatives must lose.

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    Wolfpack

    @JapanGal:

    Why do these religious groups want to control women's bodies? It is none of their business.. We are not slaves.

    Religious groups do not control or enslave anyone. Women are free to work at a religiously affiliated institution if that is what they want to do. They are also free not to work there if they do not agree with what they stand for. That is what it is to be free. However, when the government forces people to make a choice between the law and their faith, your freedoms are eroded and you become ever more a slave of the state. This is a very good example of what conservatives have been complaining about when they say that Obama is taking away peoples freedoms.

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    SushiSake3

    There's even conservative evangelical women out there who want to strip other women of the right to decide what to do with their own bodies....you can't make this type of stuff up.

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    SushiSake3

    I saw a comment on an abortion-related thread after that Alabama (?) law went up in smoke where a worker at a health clinic in the state said he was always surprised at how many Christian conservative women were coming in to have abortions.

    The poster stated the most common comments from these women were 'I never thought it (an unplanned pregnancy) would happen to me."

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    skipbeat

    Contact lenses and glasses are not covered by the insurance. The insurance only covered the exam for glasses only every two years. Why isn't it part of Obama's health care reform? If Catholic churches are required to pay insurance coverage for birth control than why isn't contact lenses and glasses also part of the package.

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    yabits

    Republicans, seizing an opportunity to hammer the White House, have accused Obama of waging war on religious freedom with his proposal to require some church-affiliated entities to provide insurance that covers contraception for women, as well as other reproductive health services.

    That's right Republicans, go on the assault against women.

    That they've chosen this issue as their new hill to fight on shows how desperate they've become. They can't credibly attack President Obama's foreign policy and, as much as they wish otherwise, the U.S. economy is on the upswing, having been led by a stock market hitting pre-2008 levels and record corporate earnings.

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    SushiSake3

    Dragging America down in the race to the bottom.

    It's one of the few things conservatives excel in.

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    DS

    I'm not sure why birth control SHOULD be covered by national health insurance. If there is a medical necessity, then treat it like any other medication. Otherwise, if the reason is convenience, then there is no logical reason that birth control pills should be covered, yet condoms for example are not. Nor is (to my knowledge) Viagra or hair growth medicine. All are in the same category.

    IF private insurance plans want to include it, that is their choice. but I see national care as more of "emergency care" than a total package for all potential medical/pharmaceutical situations.

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    Pruitt Igoe 72

    Why are senators like Nelson abandoning the president on this one? It is no time to break ranks.

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    Pruitt Igoe 72

    Time to out up more those "Obey" posters that appeared in California after we elected Obama.

  • -2

    anglootaku

    It is maybe to counter the high rate of teenage pregnancies that occur each year

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    illsayit

    yeah right anglootaku, teenagers are so stupid you cant just tell them there are consequences to your actions, you want to tax everybody instead

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    sailwind

    That they've chosen this issue as their new hill to fight on shows how desperate they've become. They can't credibly attack President Obama's foreign policy and, as much as they wish otherwise,

    China and Canada declared Thursday that bilateral relations have reached “a new level” following a series of multibillion-dollar trade and business agreements to ship additional Canadian petroleum, uranium and other products to the Asian superpower.

    Prime Minister Stephen Harper has said building pipelines to the West Coast — such as the proposed Northern Gateway oilsands pipeline and a separate one for liquefied natural gas — is a national priority as Canada looks to ship its vast resources to Asia.

    That's some real great foreign policy in action on his part with our close neighbor to the North.

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    anglootaku

    @illsayit

    I never said that.. we all make mistakes in life.. we are humans at the end of the day.. though I have met some teens in the states who had kids and some of them regret going through with it.

    Do you know how expensive it is to have kids.. hard to control a teenagers mind.. as anything you say goes in one ear out the other..

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    Madverts

    "It is maybe to counter the high rate of teenage pregnancies that occur each year"

    It only makes sense to encourage contraception and responsible breeding. Catholics should give their head a slap and realize it would reduce abortions for accidental pregnancies.

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    Madverts

    "That's some real great foreign policy in action on his part with our close neighbor to the North."

    Sailwind this is about the US and contraception. China and Canadian bilateral agreements be damned, get a grip of yourself man.

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    anglootaku

    @Madverts

    Not sure why you needed to bring up faith just then.. as it can happen to anyone of any faith or race..

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    Madverts

    It's Catholics bringing faith into it, not me.

    Hit me with another thumbs down baby!

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    anglootaku

    The article itself is biased.. I am not the one putting thumbs down..

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    gcbel

    It only makes sense to encourage contraception and responsible breeding. Catholics should give their head a slap and realize it would reduce abortions for accidental pregnancies.

    What makes you think Catholics don't? As the article says "A brace of new polls show a majority of Catholics [...] support the president’s position". The Church on the other hand... just as out of step as the Republicans.

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    gelendestrasse

    Next they'll be saying push-up bras and anti-wrinkle cream should be covered by insurance...

    Well, Viagra is covered by insurance. So why not?

    And you wonder why the cost of health care is out of control.

    The main issue is rather sticky. Assuming you agree that birth control should be covered by health insurance then you have the issue of church versus state. I suppose you could argue that if you don't like the benefits get a job somewhere else. There are a lot more places that aren't Catholic than are. But, then again, the federal government did force the Mormons (most of them, anyway) to give up polygamy.

    Guess I don't much care any more. I gave up on the Catholic church after they started shuffling pedophiles around different parishes.....

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    The Truth Matters

    republicans again claiming outrage over stuff they used to support. In 2001 Olympia Snowe and 6 other republicans authored a bill making birth control something that insurance would cover. It was fine when Olympia came up with the idea (although it didn't pass) but now that President Obama has the same idea...WHOA NELLIE!

    That's downright evil!

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    The Truth Matters

    China and Canada declared Thursday that bilateral relations have reached “a new level” following a series of multibillion-dollar trade and business agreements to ship additional Canadian petroleum, uranium and other products to the Asian superpower.

    It must be a media conspiracy.

    Chevy Volt!

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    FruitsBasketFan

    Over half of US Catholics and majority of Protestants and other religious folks use some sort of birth control.....

    The only people making a fuss about this are old men from the Catholic Church, Republicans, and like-minded religious conservatives.

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    Wolfpack

    Over half of US Catholics and majority of Protestants and other religious folks use some sort of birth control.....

    This is a weak argument. Just because a lot of religious people do things that they know are wrong doesn't make it right. Need to come up with something better than that.

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    sailwind

    Sailwind this is about the US and contraception. China and Canadian bilateral agreements be damned, get a grip of yourself man.

    Just FYI

    I was responding to Yabits as he brought up Obama and his foreign policy in his comment on this thread. Your "dressing me down" should have been directed toward him not me.

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    yabits

    I was responding to Yabits as he brought up Obama and his foreign policy in his comment on this thread.

    Uh, the comment was on the Republicans' choice of putting this issue front and center the way they've done. With the economy steadily improving, I suppose they're desperate enough to try just about anything.

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    Nessie

    I don't see that contraception or abortion (except for medical reasons) should be paid for out of health insurance funds or taxes; like pregnancy, getting laid is not an illness.

    It's cheaper to pay for contraception than to pay medical bills and eventually prison for unwanted children. It's the lesser of two nanny state evils.

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