Monday May 28, 2012

Bitter infighting over 'diva' Palin in McCain campaign reported

WATERLOO, Iowa —

Bitter infighting between aides to John McCain and Sarah Palin erupted into public view in a sign of tension gripping the Republican camp with the election 10 days away.

A series of recent surveys have suggested Palin’s presence on the ticket is hurting McCain’s chances in the November 4 election, at a time when Democratic rival Barack Obama has surged clear in most key polls.

The inquests into what has gone wrong with McCain’s campaign appear to have already begun, according to reports, with Palin’s camp blaming the Arizona senator’s senior advisers for mismanaging her contribution.

The Politico.com website cited four Republicans close to Palin as saying she had grown frustrated by advice given to her by campaign handlers, whom her supporters blame for a series of public relations gaffes.

The report said Palin was now increasingly willing to disregard orders from advisers, suggesting the Republican running mate was in the initial stages of forging her own identity for a future tilt at the White House.

“She’s lost confidence in most of the people on the plane,” said a senior Republican quoted by Politico, adding that Palin had already begun to “go rogue” in some of her public pronouncements on the campaign trail.

The Alaska Governor’s supporters accused McCain strategist Steve Schmidt and senior aide Nicolle Wallace of blaming Palin for the failure of the campaign.

“These people are going to try and shred her after the campaign to divert blame from themselves,” a McCain insider was quote by Politico as saying.

When asked to comment on the Politico story, Wallace said in an email: “I have no comment other than what’s in the story, if people wish to throw me under the bus, my personal belief is that the graceful thing to do is to lie there.”

Later Saturday, Politico quoted McCain advisers reacting angrily to the report, branding Palin a “diva.”

The McCain sources said Palin had repeatedly gone “off-message” recently, suggesting she appeared to be looking out for herself.

“She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone,” the McCain source said. “She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.”

A McCain source quoted by CNN added: “She is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom.”

Another senior McCain adviser told the network: “This is what happens with a campaign that’s behind; it brings out the worst in people, finger-pointing and scapegoating.”

News of tensions within the McCain camp comes after polls suggested Palin—who electrified the party when named as running mate in August—is now dragging down the Republican ticket.

A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll released on Wednesday found that Americans are less and less convinced she is worthy to serve as the country’s number-two leader.

It confirmed the findings of an ABC/Washington Post poll released earlier this month which found that six in 10 voters saw Palin, 44, as lacking the experience to be an effective president. “A third are now less likely to vote for McCain because of her,” the Post added.

After being found guilty of abusing her power as governor in the so-called “troopergate” scandal over the firing of her ex-brother-in-law, Palin now faces a second probe over whether she violated ethics rules in the affair.

Palin was also back in the headlines this week after it emerged $150,000 had been spent on clothes for Palin since late August, potentially undermining her appeal as a down-to-earth working “hockey mom.”

Wire reports

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    memyselfI

    10 more days !!!! It will be over in 10 more days. Actually, it's over for McCain and Palin already !!!! McCain should have choosen a better running mate.

    10 more days and Obama can take help my country.

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    SezWho2

    I don't care how hard they try, I'm still not going to give McCain my sympathy vote.

    If this is real and not manufactured, McCain/Palin seems to be an extremely dysfunctional team. I suppose they could work things out, but if the "Diva" charge has any merit, I don't think McCain as President could stand to be continually upstaged by Palin.

    Of course the charge comes from "a McCain source" but if Palin truly sees herself as the next leader of the Republican party, she has certainly set her sights high. Her dream would be big but, unless she can reinvent herself, her detachment from reality would appear to be even bigger. I think the Republicans are going to need to be a lot more centrist than Palin seems to be.

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    memyselfI

    10 more days !!! Obama can start to help the country. He might not be able to put a bandaid on it. I hope, I PRAY, he will help the working class people.

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    some14some

    What campaign? Presidential Election is over and result is known as reported by world-class Media giants. Yeah...Obama2008-two terms !

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    goodDonkey

    You would think Palin would show a little gratitude. She was a political nobody and McCain thrust her onto the world stage. She will benefit from his actions the rest of her life. I had already read a frightening article by Newsweek that she was not going away. I should have seen that coming considering the diva conservative commentators currently on the scene. There is a good probability that she has a political future. I must have been blind or I had such great hopes they would ship her back to Alaska and put her on ice. My first clue should have been the infatuation many of the conservative/Republican posters on JT had for her. She has an opportunity to capitalize on all the undersexed fundamentalist Christians with their tongues hanging out. She says what they want to hear and they can store the image of her in their head for "later".

    The article in Newsweek really provides a different take on the dilemma facing the Republican party.

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/165656

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    adaydream

    Palin was and has been seen as the biggest gaffe of the McCain campaign. I laughed and laughed after she was brought out as his partner on the ticket.

    And she sees a chance to be the top of the party in the future, I'm rolling on that one.

    Good-bye John. < :-)

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    smithinjapan

    Hey, where's coulrophobic? According to him this is all just a CNN conspiracy! Have JT and CNN teamed up? Have the 'socialist' left media come so far as to recruit even McCain's campaign people? Hehehe... I doubt we'll hear from coulrophobic and sailwind, etc., on how much of a CNN conspiracy this is any time soon. Hard to type when trying to take your feet from your mouth.

    Hate to rub it in, boys, but.... ah, no I don't! Nor do I hate to point out that as desperation in the McCain camp increases, so does a complete lack of control in the republican party. HAHAHA!

    So now I posit my original question to sarge that I did this morning: Now that it's bush being hated by McCain and McCain being ignored by Palin, and the republicans now against both bush and palin, except for Palin supporters who are now against bush and McCain, whom is it you support again?

    Again, must be damn frustrating for republicans right now. Not to worry, still plenty of room for you to join the others and move over to the wiser, more unified and powerful Democrats. The Republican ship is sinking ever faster.

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    smithinjapan

    Hahaha... good riddance to bad rubbish. She'll never have a big future with the party because people with any brains realize what a detriment she has been and will be in the future. The single biggest mistake of John McCain's career, and his last. He can never make a bigger mistake while still in the job, and I wouldn't be surprised if he retires soon after. A little to late to save any credibility -- he could have easily done that beFORE running for president, but not now -- but that won't change the fact that Palin was at least in part his undoing. As for HER undoing, she has only herself to blame. Sure, she'll be the scapegoat for the loss in 10 days, and in particular if the Dems get a majority (which is more and more likely with the 'unified' infighting going on now with Republicans), but she deserves to be labelled as the person who lost it for McCain; along with bush, of course, but that man doesn't even stir any gossip in the public anymore -- his label of worst president ever has already been attached and no one cares.

    Again, Palin is nothing but a dolt and a hypocrite; nice to see the press and others reporting it as it should be.

    Moderator: Please refrain from posting insults like this. They lower the level of discussion and reflect badly on yourself. It is also a poor debating technique.

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    GW

    A McCain source quoted by CNN added: “She is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party

    OMG OMG OMG OMG! If thats the case the US needs to do the honorable thing & NUKE itself!

    This twit is beginning to make gwb look REAL good.......

    And I thought Jpn was bad. Thankfully there is another party in the US who will hopefully save us all from this & leave to late night tv where it clearly belongs

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    Sarge

    What! Another "Palin gone rogue" article? Sheesh...

    "six in ten voters saw Palin, 44, as lacking the experience to be an effective president"

    Yet they see Obama, who has zero executive experience, as possessing the experience to be an effective president. Incredible... Americans are actually going to elect the community agonizer president...

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    Sarge

    "Thankfully there is another party in the US who will hopefully save us from all this"

    What party would that be? We don't go much for third parties...

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    smithinjapan

    sarge: "What party would that be? We don't go much for third parties..."

    It's the democrats. We know you don't like that fact, and you're going to explode when you realize how much good they will do compared to republicans, but it's true. You're just going to have to live with that fact come 10 days from now, when McCain/Palin lose the White House for the Republicans, and effectively install the far superior Obama.

    Let heads explode.... now.

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    Sarge

    "It's the Democrats ( the party which will save us )"

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    "the far superior Obama"

    I'm laughing at the superiority.

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    smithinjapan

    sarge: "Your opinion, smith, is not proof of anything."

    It's not only my opinion, sarge, it's fact... or did you not read the reports BY YOUR OWN PARTY! HAHAhaha!

    "I didn't answer your question about whom I support? In this election? You don't know? You've got to be kidding..."

    Go read my question above, sarge... you know, in the comment you simply cut and pasted from. You'll see it's not, 'which party do you support in this election', but whom do you support now that bush-mccain-palin all hate and are against each other. You cannot support all three, since they are all fighting and distancing themselves. McCain/Palin called themselves unifiers, but they are breaking up the party more than ever, as well as adding to it by hating your beloved president.

    But hey, I didn't expect you to actually read and answer my comment/question/challenge truthfully, the same as I don't expect you to understand the article of this thread. It's admittedly hard to try and formulate anything worth reading, let alone a rationale argument, when your belief system is proven to be false, so I'm told, as yours has here.

    Hang in there, sarge... Obama will extend you his hand to join the rest of the people who have switched from your party, and will allow you to call him Mr. President as of 10 days from now.

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    smithinjapan

    sarge: "I'm laughing at the superiority."

    You're laughing alone, for laughing at superiority is a funny thing itself. And it still doesn't change the fact that Obama is superior to McCain/Palin in every respect. The people know it, and are going to vote in Obama in less than two weeks. I can't WAIT to see you on here after that, my friend. Going to be fun times.

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    goodDonkey

    The Republicans need to stop calling themselves the Grand Old Party and start calling themselves The Party's Over.

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    adaydream

    Sarge aren't you living in Japan? Just want to get this correct.

    When was the last time that you went through Walmart and listened to real people who can't afford to buy groceries. Who can't afford health care.

    So you're views are based on what...only newspaper articles, conservative tabloids or what? Just trying to understand? < :-)

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    SushiSake3

    smithinjapan - "So now I post my original question to sarge that I did this morning: Now that it's bush being hated by McCain and McCain being ignored by Palin, and the republicans now against both bush and palin, except for Palin supporters who are now against bush and McCain, whom is it you support again?"

    LOL!! :-)

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    SushiSake3

    I think about the only thing that can prevent a McCain-Palin defeat now is vote rigging.

    I wouldn't put it past the GOP, and I'm sure GOP supporters will support this perversion of democracy should - sorry - when it happens.

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    SushiSake3

    "McCain advisers reacting angrily to the report, branding Palin a “diva.”

    I've been calling the GOP team the 'McCain-Palin Celebrity Ticket' for months.

    After Sarge and others have spent weeks refuting my usage of the label, it now seems even John McCain's own advisors would say I had a hole in 1 :-)

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    Sarge

    smith: "Obama... will allow you to call him Mr. President as of 10 days from now"

    Even if Obama wins, smith, he doesn't take office until January. You really should think before you post.

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    Sarge

    "McCain's advisors eacting angrily to the report branding palin a "diva"

    And Hillary's head exploding as Obama disses her and McCain chooses a woman to be his VP...

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    Sarge

    "the McCain-Palin Celebrity Ticket"

    Heck, Obama has a lot more stuck-up celebrities supporting him than McCain.

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    goodDonkey

    The cherry on top in this election would be: "The once Republican state now begins to lean Democrat in the polls. Comedian Al Franken (D) has chance to snatch the seat from Norm Coleman (R)."

    Maraschino I believe. If the Republicans can't defeat a comedian they are truly in sad shape. Coleman ran an add with Franken saying the bleeped out 'F' word and Franken still rose in the polls. The world is going to hell in a handbasket isn't it sarge?

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    Sarge

    I think about the only thing that can prevent a McCain-Palin victory now is all the bogus "registered voters" that ACORN registered to vote for Obama.

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    adaydream

    Sarah Palin was the dumbest pick that John McCain could make make. She's great to look at and she's gotten the men's attention as a fantasy object. Women first adored her and now they're dropping her like a hot potato. Palin's adoration has been diminished and she's a drain on McCain.

    McCain wasn't going to win, but he made it worse by picking the Queen of Alaska. < :-)

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    smithinjapan

    sarge: "And Hillary's head exploding as Obama disses her and McCain chooses a woman to be his VP..."

    Huge difference, sarge... huge, and what's more, one is in the past and has no bearing on the current campaign; the other, sadly for you, does.

    "Heck, Obama has a lot more stuck-up celebrities supporting him than McCain."

    Once again you miss the point. Obama has a lot of celebs, as well as the majority of Americans in general, supporting him for whom he is and what he represents, which is a better world. McCain, on the other hand, chose Palin SOLELY to try and GAIN support. It worked for about a week, as long as most of those with heads on their shoulders knew it would. Now Palin herself is proving us right, and proving that she is as useless to the Republican party as a GWB endorsement.

    "Even if Obama wins, smith, he doesn't take office until January. You really should think before you post."

    He's still President-elect in less than two weeks. But you can still refer to him as your new leader before January.

    You still have your support to clarify, sarge: "Now that it's bush being hated by McCain and McCain being ignored by Palin, and the republicans now against both bush and palin, except for Palin supporters who are now against bush and McCain, whom is it you support again?" Give us an answer, sargie... we're waiting to know how you can possibly support three completely different standpoints and people who declare they are utterly against each other right now.

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    adaydream

    Bogas registered voters don't vote. It just makes you think that you have all these new voters and made a few extra bucks for the registeers. But they don't turn into votes. < :-)

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    Sarge

    smith: "bush being hated by McCain"

    Bush has been criticized by McCain, McCain does not hate the man.

    "McCain being ignored by Palin"

    "They are utterly against each other now"

    This is your fantasy, smith. Nothing more.

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    SushiSake3

    To be honest, I'm getting a little bored posting about the U.S. election now.

    **Let's not kid ourselves - **

    1/ The GOP is self-destructing in front of our eyes.

    2/ McCain's pick of Sarah Palin as his running mate has doomed the GOP's chances in 2008 and will well and truly burn out any shred of a reputation John McCain ever had.

    3/ Any further continuation by the GOP of their current policies will do one thing - further divide America and Americans to the detriment of both.

    4/ The election outcome will be close, but Obama-Biden will win.

    5/ McCain's cake is baked. It's over. Time for the GOP to return home and regroup.

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    Sarge

    smith - Even if Obama wins, I'll never call him Mr. President. I'll call him "The Community Agonizer." Which will prove to be much more accurate a title well before his 4 years is up.

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    SushiSake3

    Sarge - "And Hillary's head exploding as Obama disses her and McCain chooses a woman to be his VP..."

    ..while Hillary's husband continues campaigning with Obama.

    What was your point again, assuming you had one? :-)

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    Sarge

    "( Bogus ) registered voters don't vote"

    And some people have their heads in the sand.

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    smithinjapan

    sarge: "Even if Obama wins, I'll never call him Mr. President. I'll call him "The Community Agonizer." Which will prove to be much more accurate a title well before his 4 years is up."

    He'll be more of a president than your war-mongering moron of a 'leader' in office now. bush has never been, nor will ever be recognized, as being worthy of the office he bore. And yet you and your ilk bowed down to him despite all the damage he did to even you personally (you just can't see it for the trees).

    Anyway, it doesn't matter what you call Obama... he will be your president, like it or not, and your leader for at least one term, and probably more than that. Anyway, one person on a JT site calling the president the 'Community Agonizer' when said man cannot even make a single correct prediction or understand the facts of a situation correctly is not going to upset a fly, let alone the proper President of the United States, Barack Obama -- your new leader and Command In Chief.

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    Sarge

    smith - "Palin has said she is not going to abide by McCain's handlers"

    That is not "ignoring McCain," as you put it. You must have missed ( how many times do I have to say this? ) McCain's speech when he introduced Palin in front of a roaring crowd in Dayton, Ohio:

    "She stands up for what she believes and she doesn't let anybody tell her to sit down. She's exactly who I need"

    "little tucker"

    Yet another condescending put-down. Thanks, smith.

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    SushiSake3

    Seems like Sarge has already thrown away his vote on candidate McCain, a man who has about as much chance now of winning as the pilot of the Hindenburg had of attending the post-flight briefing. :-)

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    SezWho2

    Well, I have no idea who the next president will be.

    Everything that I have read, even by Republican pundits, say that the election is out of John McCain's hands. They say that for McCain to win the election he requires an event that is not in his control to create. Everyone seems to be a little uncertain what that event will be.

    However, I think Obama's race will be a factor and will cut into his lead on election day. And I think that attack dog Sarah Palin and the Republican noise machine are doing their best once to try to capitalize on that by using proxy issues--like Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers and Obama's Muslim father. Additionally they're having a good time distorting the "spread the wealth" thing and appealing to economic prejudices that conflate poverty with Americanism: "I may not have any real stake in this society, but by God I'm not a socialist!"

    So, who knows who is going to win? I hope it's Obama. But you never know.

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    yabits

    Even if Obama wins, I'll never call him Mr. President.

    That's only because the writer ultimately hates the democratic process that the American people get to exercise (on a national level) every four years. Not to mention his being such a class act.

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    SushiSake3

    Sarge - "She stands up for what she believes and she doesn't let anybody tell her to sit down. She's exactly who I need"

    Pity that never panned out, eh?

    mccain only wheeled her out a few times.

    Joe Biden, on the other hand and to his credit, clocked up his **170th interview **on Friday.

    Where the heck has Sarah Palin been?????

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    SushiSake3

    SezWho, well, Al Quaida and Republican supporters seem to be rooting for a McCain-Palin win.

    That just about says it all in my book.

    www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-121767

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    goodDonkey

    It was suppose to be like the chant in the Wizard of Oz.

    Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!

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    sailwind

    Joe Biden, on the other hand and to his credit, clocked up his **170th interview **on Friday.

    Where the heck has Sarah Palin been?????

    Better question is why did Obama muzzle Biden? Afraid he might give another gaffe?

    From CBS News' Ryan Corsaro:

    (COLORADO SPRINGS, COLO.) - It might be surprising to some to learn that Sarah Palin is now talking to her national press corps more often than Joe Biden.

    While the once silent Palin has taken questions from reporters that travel with her three times in the last week, Biden has not offered the same type of access to reporters who cover his every move on the campaign trail in almost two months.

    it has been 55 days since he held a press conference. He has held two since being named Obama’s running mate.

    Yet the press complains about Palin and never asks the hard questions of Obama. Why if he so confident of his V.P pick has he been muzzled from the press? Or for that matter regular people in town halls?

    Biden has also not taken questions from voters in a town hall style setting since **Sept. 10 **in Nashua, New Hampshire, when he told a supporter that Hillary Clinton might have been a better pick for vice president.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/22/politics/fromtheroad/entry4539166.shtml

    Pretty interesting the media coverage comparisions on the two.

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    Wolfpack

    Yet another negative article about Gov. Palin. Wow, what a surprise! I can't wait for the next article - about how she beats her children, owns a dog fighting business with Michael Vick, and owns dozens of Eskimo slaves.

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    MarieDevine

    Campaign advisers do not understand a person with a Bible and a belief in God. We use a totally different strategy. We do not go according to the plan of strategies of man. here is how the wisdom from the word of God changes the battle. The holy war that is fought against us is to keep our godless ways of abortion, indecencies and immoralities out of the Muslim nations. Voting AGAINST Obama and Democrats who refuse to stop abortion etc, and FOR McCain and Republicans who promise to overturn abortion rights shows our nation turning toward God. The primary message of the Qur'an is to follow the whole Bible. Jesus said to follow EVERY word of God. With that agreement, we can change from violence to discussion in this war on terror. This is one way God fights for us when we turn to His ways. That great military enterprise and expense could end easily.

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    Simon_Foston

    "Even if Obama wins, I'll never call him Mr. President. I'll call him "The Community Agonizer."

    Well, if it makes you feel any better. You're not hoping that this nickname you've come up with will catch on, are you? But I gather that "Mr. President" is a second person form of address, so when are you ever going to get the chance to try out your witty epiphet face to face on the man himself? Assuming he wins, that is?

    This latest news about infighting just makes it look more likely to me. It's getting pretty wide coverage, and it just joins a series of articles by, comments from or interviews with Republicans about everything that's going wrong with the campaign. If everything really was going well we just wouldn't be seeing this kind of stuff.

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    USAFdude

    Rakish - Excellent question. But now, I guess Sarge knows how we real US troops feel about having an idiot like bush in power for eight long, horrible years. That, of course, is why the military vote will overwhelmingly be for Obama.

    Let's just hope the civilians are smart enough to vote of Obama, too.

    As for Palin, most people had her pegged as a moron the day McCain selected her as his running mate. Naturally, a man who would make so inarguably irresponsible a choice is unfit to be President.

    So let Palin be a diva all she likes; just tuck her back into her cave in Alaska and she can throw all the tantrums she wants, particularly after she and McCain lose the election. At least with her being that far away, most good Americans won't have to listen to her anymore.

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    Betzee

    McCain is still being dogged by questions about the cost of Palin's campaign wardrobe. In addition to the 22 grand make-up artist it has been revealed Palin has run up a 10 grand hair stylist tab (for the month of October). Apparently the stylist was recommended by Cindy McCain. Hindsight is 20-20, but it's clear they should have gone to John Edwards for a recommendation, now there's a man who knows how to find a cheap barber!

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    goodDonkey

    Wolfpack said:

    Yet another negative article about Gov. Palin. Wow, what a surprise! I can't wait for the next article - about how she beats her children, owns a dog fighting business with Michael Vick, and owns dozens of Eskimo slaves

    Negative is not always false. We don't need to lie, so we won't be needing your assistance there; you can save that talent you just used on Palin to continue to use against Obama. These truthful events will suffice. For instance she was found in violation of ethics laws. She did get a $150,000 wardrobe, paid for by the Republican party, which, if she kept would have been a violation of personal use which is forbidden for campaign funds. She didn't know the simplest of duties of the job of V.P. (Sarah, honey, a V.P. is not in charge of the senate). She said, " [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom." Sorry, Sarah, honey, not even if they really, really really want to. She actually answered the question, "What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?" With "They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska." ** Diva indeed!**

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    MikeBarrymore

    Look at the awfull woman. Spending loads of money on herself , does she thibnk she's Maddona? She likes to say she's an average person, but she is a greedy, selfish old bag. Jeremy Paxman said she is as thick as two short planks, and i agree, she is horrid, nasty, nasty, nasty!

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    RakishGadfly

    USAFDude;

    Comments like Sarge made are fairly distasteful if someone claims to stand for democracy, doubly so if said person was actually in the military and had taken an oath to fight for a country, not just for a President when his/her politics just happen to match yours. Comments like that, whether from someone on the "left" or "right" show that the US Founding Fathers had some sense when they were wary of party politics - many put party loyalty above loyalty to their country, and in that sense they do not really care about democracy - they actually prefer a one party state.

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    Helter_Skelter

    Sailwind,

    Pretty interesting the media coverage comparisions on the two.

    Of course, there is no comparison. At this point, the liberal main stream media is simply part of the Obama presidential campaign. They don't even pretend to be unbiased.

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    USAFdude

    Rakish - excellent points.

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    USAFdude

    I will admit I'm glad to see the infighting within the Republican Party come to the surface before the election. It will help those undecided voters see the folly of supporting the McCain-Palin ticket by illustrating the chaos that would reign in the White House were these two to be elected.

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    Betzee

    This is extracted from what David Frum, a speech writer for GWB, wrote for the Washington Post:

    [I]n August, McCain tried a bold new gambit: He would reach out to independents and women with an exciting and unexpected vice presidential choice.

    That didn't work out so well either. Gov. Sarah Palin connected with neither independents nor women. She did, however, ignite the Republican base, which has come to support her passionately. And so, in this last month, the McCain campaign has Palinized itself to make the most of its last asset. To fire up the Republican base, the McCain team has hit at Barack Obama as an alien, a radical and a socialist.

    Sure enough, the base has responded. After months and months of wan enthusiasm among Republicans, these last weeks have at last energized the core of the party. But there's a downside: The very same campaign strategy that has belatedly mobilized the Republican core has alienated and offended the great national middle, which was the only place where the 2008 election could have been won....

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    SuperLib

    Methinks some people have tied their self-esteem to the election results...and the odd thing is the people with the largest emotional investments aren't even American.

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    Sarge

    Wolfpack - The next article about Palin will be how she mistreats the Eskimo slaves working on a pipeline that was negotiated in a corrupt fashion.

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    Sarge

    USAFdude - How come, in the Military Times poll, the troops are backing McCain 68% to Obama's 23%? Is that bogus?

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    Lieutenant

    USAFdude - How come, in the Military Times poll, the troops are backing McCain 68% to Obama's 23%? Is that bogus?

    Get ready for President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

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    Simon_Foston

    Of course, there is no comparison. At this point, the liberal main stream media is simply part of the Obama presidential campaign. They don't even pretend to be unbiased.

    Why should they if they're liberal? But there are plenty of papers that have supported conservative policies in the past, like The Washington Post, or endorsed Republican candidates, like The Chicago Tribune. Yet they're now endorsing Obama.

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    USAFdude

    Sarge -

    Is that bogus?

    Nope, your assertion is bogus. Observe, straight from http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/10/militarypoll100508w/ :

    McCain, R-Ariz., handily defeated Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., 68 percent to 23 percent in a voluntary survey of 4,293 active-duty, National Guard and reserve subscribers and former subscribers to Army Times, Navy Times, Marine Corps Times and Air Force Times.

    Not all of us subscribe to these periodicals. Hmmm, wonder when they'll ask the rest of us for our opinions...

    The results of the Military Times 2008 Election Poll are not representative of the opinions of the military as a whole. The group surveyed is older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services.

    Shameless cherry-picking, again, from Sarge. See what I mean, Rakish?

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    SezWho2

    Methinks some people have tied their self-esteem to the election results...and the odd thing is the people with the largest emotional investments aren't even American.

    On the other hand, it might be that those emotionally invested people think that the people who have most at stake in this election aren't American either.

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    zurcronium

    Well, its just too bad that the republicans are falling apart. Defeat will do that.

    As far a bible spice is concerned, she will run in 2012 and have her clocked cleaned by Mitt and others who run. The repubs will just tear her to shreads. She and Joe the Plumber however are meant for each other. They should run in a new party, the incompetents.

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    ImperiumMundi

    The results of the Military Times 2008 Election Poll are not representative of the opinions of the military as a whole. The group surveyed is older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services.

    the single most popular election video on youtube (12 million hits) features an American soldier back from iraq. he eviscerates the empty suit obama for his position on the war.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

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    zurcronium

    the GIs better vote for obama or they will be in Iraq for a hundred years as mccain has promised. Unless they get checks directly from exxon they will be fighting for next to nothing.

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