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goddog
Isn't there the 3 hour rule? Will the airlines be fined for keeping passengers on the planes on the tarmac waiting? They have to by law bring those passengers into the departure area. Big fines coming up.
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Gurukun
Yup...Global warming.....yeah okay...
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kyushujoe
@Gukurun
Don't you understand the concept of trends? It's December, that's why it's cold. When August comes it will be hot again. Very hot. Possibly hotter than any other year in recorded history. Winter cold, summer hot. Get it?
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hoserfella
kyushujoe - Oh, THATS global warming? I get it now! In winter it's cold, and in summer it's hot! When I was a kid, it must have been the other way around. Time to go buy a Prius, I guess..
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Gurukun
Not on Glabal Warming. If 'they' say the world is getting warmer and warmer, how can you have 'The Coldest Winter Storms" in decades? Japan aint' doing so hot either....No pun intended.
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mikihouse
Hahahahafunny horsefella. When I was a kid there was no winter now we are getting ice. Go Global Warming so I can build a snowman.
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borscht
Bigger storms, stronger typhoons, colder winters, hotter summers, melting ice caps, melting glaciers exposing 5000-year-old skeletons, icebergs the size of Rhode Island falling off of Antarctica - the trends of climate change nee global warming.
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GJDailleult
He doesn't appear to understand the concept of averages either. I suggest a career as a professional roulette player. Also, you can have the coldest winter in one place because a general warming may be causing (or may not be) changes in air pressure, air flows, and currents etc. pushing the cold air to a different place. Or you can ignore all that and just look out your window or read the news and claim that you know what is going on.
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jason6
I wished for snow (for snowboarding) but not THAT much!
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Bebert61
Whether it is global warming or global cooling, or just Winter as we know it, it doesn't matter. What matters is the smug bastards in New York City and the rest of New England and the Mid-Atlantic states are having a miserable day. Better them than me.
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SolidariTea
Or you could look into solar cycles and solar activity as the alternative explanation, but there is no political hay to be made when the cause of weather anomalies is as remote as that...
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lostrune2
There are always people who would believe any theory put forth is kooky, including the solar radiation theory. If we can't trust NASA or other scientific organinzation on global temperature measurements, why would we trust them on solar measurements?
Anyways, this is not even the worst blizzard the mid-Atlantic states have faced. The one a decade ago is even worse.
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WilliB
Global warming is a blast!
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lostrune2
Ironically, Russia is also in a standstill not because of snow but because it's unseasonably warm. Instead of snow, Moscow got rain and ice, weighing power lines to snap to huge blackouts and roads full of slippery black ice. So big bad Russian winter is getting warmer, whodathunk?! What Napoleon or Hitler couldn't overcome, haha!
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Gurukun
What? If the average of the temperature is going up, then shouldn't the average temp of winter be going up as well? All that global warming crap is just that. Crap. And if you believe that Global Warming BS, then how do you know that its not a 20, 30, 40, or even a 200 year cycle? Or, you can read the news, believe the BS, look out the window and claim that you know what's going on.
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bicultural
gurukun, "global warming" causes EXTREME weather. It doesn't mean that we'll have warm winters.
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Zenny11
The earth heating up gradually, causes warm air and sea current to change which in turn cause extreme localized weather patterns.
Also the earth does not warm equally, land and water masses warm up at different rates = more weather changes at local levels.
While the local weather changes also affects animal migration, flora changes, etc.
All that been covered and published widely but it looks some people only see the words "Global warming" and think earth should become like Dune/Arakis.
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Gurukun
How do we know global warming (if it really exists)causes anything? We have nothing to compare it to, except that in the last few decades, it seems to be getting warmer? How do we know, or not know, that this is just a cycle? Not debating anything, just asking. I just think that those two words..Global, and Warming...when put together is a phrase that was made to throw the whole world into a panic.
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Typhoon_Tom
All this exciting weather. Here in Okinawa it's boring! Sunny today, light breeze, and 20 C! No complaints actually, but I wouldn't mind a winter wonderland as long as I did not have to drive!
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GJDailleult
I didn't claim to know what is going on. You did. You said that you knew global warming is crap and BS because it is snowing somewhere. And you don't measure average temperature only by cherry picking the place where it is cold. You work out the average by taking all points together, a blizzard in the USA does not mean average world winter temps are not going up any more than a warm winter in Russia means they are going up.
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yokomoc
We don't 'know', but predictions are based on the best models which themselves are based on the best understanding of weather and climate systems we have. Not perfect, but there's decades of hard work by very smart people gone into those predictions.
There's no such thing as 'just a cycle'. They don't just happen, something drives them. Again a lot of time and effort by some very smart people has gone into trying to determine if anything other than human greenhouse gas emissions are the main driver behind the temperature increase. All answers to date say no.
Given the potential consequences I'd say it's not dramatic enough.
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jasperandy
Large Snow events tend to occur in warmer conditions rather than very cold conditions.
Further this year we have witnesses warm artic cold continents phenonina along with a La Nina partern which normal causes the eastern side of the continent to be warmer and the western side of the continent to be cooler.
A look at Global Ice indicates we have been warming since about the mid eighteenth century with a brief pause circa 1960 and 1970's. Is it man made aor natural osscilation? Probally a combination of both!!
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yokomoc
BTW regarding lostrune2's point about solar activity, put "new scientist what's wrong with the sun" into google for a very good article which might explain the extreme winters in Europe/Eastern US the last two years.
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Badsey
If this keeps up people in Tokyo will need to buy snow blowers. Al Gore be damned.
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Gurukun
Smart? I don't know....More like people getting paid way too much for guessing. It's strange that they say everything is caused by greenhouse gas emissions. I don't remeber reading about factories and vehicles driving around when the earth came out of the Ice Age.
There is no such thing as a cycle? Really?...and spring, summer, fall, winter come when?
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yokomoc
The sprectroscopic properties of CO2 etc are known precisely - meaning we know how much of the sun's radiation is absorbed, transmitted or reflected at any given frequency. Basically what happens is the UV light and other high frequency radiation from the sun is mostly transmitted, but when that energy comes back through the atmosphere much of that UV has been converted to infra-red (heat) and other low frequency radiation which is reflected more by CO2 than UV light. The greenhouse gas effect shouldn't even be considered a theory, the real uncertainties come in because the earth is a very dynamic system and there are all kinds of psoitive and negative feedback loops - some of which are understood very well, some not so much.
Of course everything isn't driven by greenhouse gases - it's the abnormal warming in last 100-odd years that is. Noone has been able to come up with an adequate alternative explanation and many, many potential causes have been examined in depth.
Read the comment properly please - there's no such thing as 'just' a cycle. We know that the seasonal cycle is driven by the earth's tilt as it goes round the sun. That's fine, but you can't just pass something the 100 years of warming trend as a cycle without being able to explain what drives it, especially when there's no evidence that it is, in fact, a cycle.
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GJDailleult
Nobody says everything is caused by greenhouse gas emissions. And endlessly bringing up cycles, cycles, cycles, and solar activity, solar activity, solar activity over and over. WE GET IT!!! There are cycles and solar activity, everybody knows that.
Now how about the deniers and skeptics trying to get it. The question is is what happening now a deviation from what the climate would be otherwise. A deviation from the natural rate and / or direction of change, with all the cycles and solar activity etc.. Unbelievable that billions of people can not or pretend not to understand such a simple junior high school concept.
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