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KnowBetter
Just like I said, Boeing hasn't fixed the problem. Read my old posts and you'll note I said this over and over and over, "Boeing has no clue what the problem is. Now read this quote today from Boeing,
"A Boeing spokesman said the US firm had personnel on the ground at the airport west of London and was "working to fully understand and address this." "
Good luck with that Boeing...
Here comes another worldwide grounding.
some14some
Boeing's burning Dreamliners, still in production or just busy repairing pervious ones?
marcels
Airbus gotta be happy.....
globalwatcher
I recall how much JT people hated my posts on the safety issue of Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
I am not yet convinced it is safe and I refuse to fly in it.
smithinjapan
Like I've said before, the company won't be satisfied there's a problem until there's a fatal crash.
kwatt
It seems that B787 is a perfect lemon as they still can't find the real causes of the fire.
paulinusa
The latest news points out the fire was NOT in or near the battery compartment. So please hold the "I told you so" comments until more info is available.
Elbuda Mexicano
Ethiopia can afford to buy Boeing's newest planes??? The so called Dreamliner?? Now that's the real news!!
No Miso
wow, you are right, I think.
On Jun 12 you said:
and
On May 18 you said (and I actually had to read twice as I thought it was exactly the same thing):
and
On Apr 22 you commented:
(ah, you said that twice on the same thread it seems)
And then I gave up, as it was taking too long to actually work out what you said because you kept saying "remember what I said"!!
JeffLee
Frequent fires on civilian airliners are perfectly natural, and passengers have no need to worry.
Also, try to see this from Boeing's perspective: solving the problem would cost money, and hence might hurt the corporation's profits. Have a bit of sympathy, folks.
Citizen2012
Is repeating to himself in a loop a stockholder of BOEING looking at the plunge ;)
CrazyJoe
An unfinished "state of the art " plane.
globalwatcher
JeffLeeJul. 13, 2013 - 10:47AM JST
I've got your clear message here. Sounds like the corporate profit is more important than human lives, is that what you are saying, JeffLee? Do you feel sorry for Asiana Airlines that caused the accident the other day? Or do you feel sorry for those victims who were killed and injured?. I cannot believe what I have read here. As long as we have a people like you, we are in deep trouble. What else is more important than humanity, JeffLee?
Serrano
Boeing will find the cause of these troubles, fix them, and the 787 will go on to be very successful.
Elbuda Mexicano
Serrano, so how many more accidents will it take?? Lives??
Serrano
How about zero lives? So far, it's zero.
smithinjapan
Guys, I'm pretty sure JeffLee was being sarcastic -- at least in the second part of the post.
Saxon Salute
JeffLee, sarcasm and Americans doesn't always work my friend.
nandakandamanda
Heard two rumours, which is all we have to go on here until some facts are released. If anyone has any updated information, please contribute.
The Heathrow Ethiopian plane looks to have been burned, while the plane was plugged into an external power source, by a fire an electrical appliance someone accidentally left switched on. A breaker fault?
The Thomson plane's technical fault may have been an inability to raise the undercarriage following take-off.
Alex80
JeffLee's comment was obvioulsy sarcastic . Anyway... Dreamliner? It's more like Nightmareliner.
smithinjapan
Serrano: "How about zero lives? So far, it's zero."
The functional part of your statement being 'so far', as if Boeing continues down this path and the planes are not permanently grounded, it will definitely happen sooner rather than later. Clearly they haven't found the troubles at all, but think duct tape over parts from all different nations where they are outsourced and put together somewhere else will fool everyone. Fools you, anyway.
badsey3
With a Korean pilot -this incident would have been far worse.
DreamLiner 787a = Should be renamed to "Hell on Wheels 787a" --> I will wait for the "b-beta" version. I had this problem with some Windows "alpha" versions also. So far no dreams only nightmares.
globalwatcher
SAD, I am shocked to see negative feedbacks on my post... I was trying to raise an awareness of humanity that is a pivotal moral issue here. I guess some JT think Corporate profit is more important than the humanity. Good luck on Fukushima Nuke leaks and nuclear energy restart. As long as these people run Japan, the core problems of Japan will not be solved. I am glad I do not live there for my children.
sushilover
Nightmareliner, I'd say.
BTW, do passengers have a right to know what "equipment" they are getting on when they buy a ticket, and before they board? And do they have the right to say " No way am I getting on that death trap! Give me my money back"?
KnowBetter
My point was I told you so (read my past comments) it's NOT the batteries that are the problem. The batteries are the end result of the problem. This fire appears to have been in the area above the main cabin where the crew rest area is. I'm actually hoping it was some twit sneaking smoke break and then falling asleep but that would be wishful thinking. It could be a hydraulics pump circuit or wiring circuits leading to/from the APU in the tail cone. Either way IT'S NOT THE BATTERIES!!!
konjo4u
<>http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/13/us-boeing-dreamliner-ethiopian-idUSBRE96C04Q20130713?feedType=RSS
This is a Boeing made plane on the ground at Heathrow. Okay, UK likes Boeing.
This particular Boeing was on the ground for 8 hours already. It is not a lead acid battery, so when a Li-Ion battery leaks, what does it leak and where does it go?
No Miso
@knowbetter
Well this is what you are saying now, but the first post in this thread you say:
Boeing and Investigators will dig into this and work out what went wrong. But ALREADY they have announced that there seems to be no link to the batteries.
JeffLee
The probe is reportedly focusing on a transmitter, powered, yes, by lithium batteries. So the batteries may indeed turn out to be the problem.
No Miso
Powered by "some" lithium batteries, but not THE lithium batteries. A difference.