Taliban militants dig in as Marines occupy Afghan town
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dearjohn
The only things more cowardly than planting bombs is dropping them from the air or having a remote control craft do it for you. The Taliban don't seem to have stooped that low yet, though this is low enough.
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Beelzebub
Tomorrow the AP will report that resistance appears to have ceased after a group of 400 rather tall women in burkhas departed the town.
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michaelqtodd
Well they just lost their only source of income (heroin production) so you could hardly expect dancing in the streets, with or without the landmines. Love your posts @beezlebub.Reckon you are spot on
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bushlover
deardearJohn: [The only things more cowardly than planting bombs is dropping them from the air or having a remote control craft do it for you. The Taliban don't seem to have stooped that low yet, though this is low enough.]
Sorry matey I can't see how one is different from the other. In both cases the deliverer is absent and the receiver could be anyone. What don't you get about that? One is more technically advanced than the other that is all.
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some14some
Bombs slow advance of NATO... Does it mean NATO forces were expecting easy walk in Taliban-held town? I see, they are facing fierce resistance from Taliban.
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SuperLib
Maybe one day we'll be able to send in soldiers to behead schoolgirls or send mentally handicapped young men to blow up hotels. Until then, well, I guess your pride is just going to have to take some lumps.
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sharky1
Sounds to me that things are going as planned. Someone just needed a headline, so they came out with this one...
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Sarge
"The only things more cowardly than planting bombs is dropping them from the air"
dearjohn would, I guess, prefer that the good guys here ( the ones dropping the bombs on the wackos who would torture and kill dearjohn without hesitation or remorse ) walk into the Taliban-held town unarmed and plead with them to stop their evil ways, lol.
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dearjohn
Sarge wrote- "dearjohn would, I guess, prefer that the good guys here ( the ones dropping the bombs on the wackos who would torture and kill dearjohn without hesitation or remorse ) walk into the Taliban-held town unarmed and plead with them to stop their evil ways, lol."
No. I was perfectly happy to let them practice their evil ways in their own Godforsaken country, because they had no interest in me at the time. They did have a nasty house guest that had to be dealt with but certain people hungry for war, profits, and a legacy unilaterly threw out the the option of any negotiations whatsoever. And rather than focus on the house guest they had to go and stir up the hornets nest which has gone and invaded Pakistan. We are coming up on nine years of this garbage. Nine years that have created the very worry you express.
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dearjohn
bushlover wrote- "Sorry matey I can't see how one is different from the other. In both cases the deliverer is absent and the receiver could be anyone. What don't you get about that? One is more technically advanced than the other that is all."
The deliver has to be present sometime. One is at the actual location where he could get sniped or blown up by his own homemade bomb, that is if he does not get nabbed making that bomb by foreign troops in his country. The other is thousands of feet up in a metal box at most dangerous, or in a control room hundred or thousands of miles away. What don't you get about that?
Its not just about technical advancement. Its about showing courage or cowardice, and one might win people over to your side and the other most certainly will not. Nine years of dropping bombs from afar on civilians is not going to win Afghanistan. America follows in the footsteps of the British and the Russians, but some either too stubborn or stupid to admit it.
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liquidjapan
DearJohn, You are so WRONG. did you forget about the 3000 innocent people who were MURDERED on 911? people like you who subscribe to the disgusting internet BS about war mongers in the world typically forget about that day. And those planes that attacked the US were MANNED by people from an evil country you think were keeping to themselves. Open your eyes they dont stay in their country they are attacking the whole world. Some day you will be touched by there anger and I hope you feel it to your core and maybe then you will understand.
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liquidjapan
@dearjohn "The deliver has to be present sometime. One is at the actual location where he could get sniped or blown up by his own homemade bomb, that is if he does not get nabbed making that bomb by foreign troops in his country. The other is thousands of feet up in a metal box at most dangerous, or in a control room hundred or thousands of miles away. What don't you get about that?"
I bet u r also one of these people who want to get rid of cluster bombs. So no precise targeting and no cluster bombs. Hope you enjoy Taliban rule. Did you leave yet
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bushlover
["The deliver has to be present sometime. One is at the actual location where he could get sniped or blown up by his own homemade bomb, that is if he does not get nabbed making that bomb by foreign troops in his country. The other is thousands of feet up in a metal box at most dangerous, or in a control room hundred or thousands of miles away. What don't you get about that?"]
They are not there when they detonate them remotely. Neither are the pilots that drop theirs. But in this modern day pilots don't drop bombs randomly hoping for a hit. The weapons are a bit more accurate these days. So remote detonation or remote firing of guided bombs. What don't you get about that? The same crowd as yourself also cry over a soldier when one gets hurt or killed but now we have the likes of you wanting them to show courage and risking more lives on the ground. You should catch up with the modern world.
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pathat
Taliban militants dig in as Marines occupy Afghan town
Some will fight it out to the bitter end in the face of overwhelming firepower, but most will hightail it to safer places and regroup to fight elsewhere. Losses will be offset by new recruits. Any wins will be temporary by the U.S.-led forces, and any sort of victory will be illusory.
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SuperLib
What was that word you used before? Cowardly? ;)
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dearjohn
I'm sorry liquid, I seem to have struck a nerve. The truth will do that. I already described roadside bombs as cowardly, so don't think I am defending them.
Whatever conspiracy theories of faked predator drone bombings you dream up does not counter the fact that even when they are real and dropped on legit targets, it is the epitome of cowardice in fighting a war. Its not me you need to convince, its the people of Afghanistan. That or support getting out.
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dearjohn
bushlover wrote- "They are not there when they detonate them remotely"
I guess you too forgot my first post. I am not defending roadside bombs. I classify them too as cowardly and dangerous to civilians, but still braver than dropping bombs from aircraft or using a remote control device to do your dirty work.
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dearjohn
SuperLib-"What was that word you used before? Cowardly? ;)"
Nice try. Nation building, especially in a crap hole like Afghanistan, is a fool's errand anyway. Wanting to stay out of it is not cowardice. Its minding your own business on one hand, and conserving lives and resources on the other. It looks like you too forget what was said with each new post. I would have supported getting al-Quaida if negotiations were tried and had failed. But I never supported nine years of wasted time and lives. That is not bravery. That is stupidity.
Don't tell me you are one of the hardheaded people who has been muttering "Just one more year..." every year since the invasion? What is it with people who do that? Is it so hard to admit being wrong? Is it pride? Arrogance? Forgetfulness? Being a hopeful fool? Its like Vietnam never happened with so little learned there.
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sailwind
Ii look like the Taliban is toast in this town.
Cool if you ask me.
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grafton
DearJohn.
The Taliban were never going to give up their “house guest” and nobody but you seems to imagine that they would have done. I do get a little tired of 9\11 being used as a bases for all that has happened since that date, as horrible and as traumatic as it was for the US it was not the only motivation behind going into Afghanistan. There were (are) many other very good reasons for the removal of the Taliban, simply giving the people of Afghanistan a chance to live in 21st. century is a major part of that. As for your feelings on remote killing I think you are being incredibly simplistic given that even a gun could be seen as distance killing and therefore, by your reasoning cowardly. Or are you advocating bare hand fighting. However you feel about what is now happening it is happening and those that are charged with the job of getting it finished need to be pragmatic, something you can from the comfort and safety of your keyboard afford not to be. The object is to kill as few people as possible while bringing about an end to the madness that is war. As most people here know I am no supporter of the US, but I would not have them killed because they tried to fight a war with their hands tied behind their backs. Sorry but if I must take sides in this conflict (and there is no way not to) I say give the US all the weaponry they need to win and win quickly with as few casualties as possible.
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