Britain's far right wins first 2 seats in EU vote

Tuesday 09th June, 07:00 AM JST

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Richard_III at 02:21 PM JST - 9th June

Their economic policies would possibly do even more damage than those of Mr Brown.
Madverts at 05:00 PM JST - 9th June

Heh, so if I've grasped this, the American extreme right continue to errounously believe Obama is a socialist, and that extemist brothers in Europe making political advances is to be seen as a positive....
Luddite at 06:55 PM JST - 9th June

I agree with frontandcentre. I take some comfort in the fact that the BNP's share of the vote was less than it was in 2004. Voters for other parties, especially Labour, just stayed at home, only the right wing nutters came out last Thursday. I'm ashamed to be British.
WilliB at 10:44 PM JST - 9th June

smith:

" or people who base their entire platform on being anti-Islam; it's simply 'correct'. "

No, it is not "correct", as in politically correct. Expect any anti-islamization party to get smeared like there is no tomorrow.

It is high time, though. But probably too late already; islamist leaders already crowing about Europe being Dar-al-Dahwa, and soon getting ready to be delivered to islam.

To see what that is coming, visit Trappes, Luton, or Dearborne, Michigan for that matter.
Den Den at 10:48 PM JST - 9th June

Brown and the idiots on the other side should be be held personally responsible for this outrage.
Madverts at 11:29 PM JST - 9th June

"To see what that is coming, visit Trappes"

I've lived in Trappes. You're talking rubbish.
teleprompter at 07:04 AM JST - 10th June

I think we all could see this coming.
frontandcentre at 10:01 AM JST - 10th June

WilliB = Daily Mail reader?

meanwhile, back in the real world...support for the BNP is decreasing. Half of their supporters are more recent arrivals to Britain than the "immigrants" (3rd, 4th generation?) that they are campaigning to remove. It is simply a party of working class hatred against people who have made a successful move to Britain.

Labour's abject failure results in embarassing episodes such as this. Voters will come back and put Griffin and his ilk back on the extreme fringes where their disgusting world view belongs
teleprompter at 12:26 PM JST - 10th June

I reckon Britain needs a long look in the mirror.
Madverts at 05:29 PM JST - 10th June

"I reckon Britain needs a long look in the mirror."

Really?

You were "luvin' it" earlier. Must you flip-flop on every issue?
teleprompter at 07:51 PM JST - 10th June

frontandcentre

Labour's abject failure results in embarassing episodes such as this. Voters will come back and put Griffin and his ilk back on the extreme fringes where their disgusting world view belongs

Melanie Phillips, almost 4 months ago:

Last week, the British National Party won a council seat in Sevenoaks, Kent. This should make us all sit up and take notice. Kent is not ethnically-riven Tower Hamlets or Bradford.

Last month:

For all its slick repackaging, the BNP remains an odiously racist party, with its leader blurting out the fact that he doesn't regard British citizens of Asian descent - indeed, any ethnic minority - as British at all.

I had heard British people talk about BNP before but I assumed they were like young skinheads playing at being adult politicians and that their chances of ever winning office were almost non-existent.

I was shocked to find this in The Spectator:

"Not for nothing were the Nazis called ’national socialists’. In similar fashion, the BNP fuse ultra-nationalism and racism with economic ideas which would sit well on the left of the Labour party. It is more helpful, and more accurate, to regard the BNP as opportunists. In the tradition of all fascist and neo-fascist parties, they prey upon a decaying body politic by taking up genuine grievances which are of overwhelming concern to the public but which, for one reason or another, mainstream politics is ignoring. By doing so, they serve to camouflage their own anti-democratic and noxious ideology.

The BNP under Nick Griffin have been particularly skilled at this, getting their people to grow out their shaven heads and get into suits, and sanitising their literature of anything that might frighten the voters off. They remain, however, a deeply and truly racist and antisemitic party, as is demonstrated by the fact that they will not allow black people or Jews to be members because they don’t regard black people or Jews as properly British.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/3680091/the-real-reason-for-this.thtml

You lot got some sick puppies at large and gettin bigger.
Madverts at 08:53 PM JST - 10th June

Please answer the question, old friend.

How can your position be "I'm luvin' it" in regards to the BNP and other associated fringe right parties win seats in Europe, and then later "I reckon Britain needs a long look in the mirror".

It seems very much akin to your position(s) on poll figures.
teleprompter at 10:59 PM JST - 10th June

madverts:

How can your position be "I'm luvin' it" in regards to the BNP and other associated fringe right parties win seats in Europe, and then later "I reckon Britain needs a long look in the mirror".

Quite simple. BNP are not conservative. They are opportunists. In fact, they are closer to "NuLabor" than folks like you (and fontandcentre, etc) care to acknowledge. I'll let your compatriot Mel Phillips again explain:

Labour MPs are shocked that it is their own voters who have turned to the BNP. They are shocked because it is a mantra of the left that it stands in heroic and historic opposition to fascism. This is untrue. Both fascism and communism have their roots in counter-Enlightenment, obscurantist thinking which replaced reason by emotion, Judeo-Christian ethics by paganism, and the rejection of the primacy of the individual in favour of collectively imposed authority.
Madverts at 01:17 AM JST - 11th June

Thanks for the quote's, but I'm interested in how earlier your "luvin' it" changed to "I reckon Britain needs a long look in the mirror."

You can simply be honest and admit to flip-flopping like on the issue of poll figures, and I'll understand, old friend...
teleprompter at 09:33 AM JST - 11th June

but I'm interested in how earlier your "luvin' it" changed to "I reckon Britain needs a long look in the mirror."

Europe voting in conservatives - I'm lovin it, especially in the Age of Obama.

BNP is not conservative, they are opportunistic out and out racists - Britain needs a long look in the mirror.

Simple enough?