Bush agrees to time 'horizon' on Iraq troop cuts

Saturday 19th July, 06:38 AM JST

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westurn at 09:43 PM JST - 21st July

"Then there are posters out here who agree with his madness. Like Western who sees delight in war anywhere the republican machine can get us into."

This coming from the poster that declared "war is inevitable" !
westurn at 09:46 PM JST - 21st July

Madverts remains confused...

"Yeh 2,974 people from 90 different nations and a kindergarten is rarely discussed these days ! Why not pontificate on that "bodycount" a bit there madverts ?"

"Uhm, because it has nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq."

Ooo-kayyy... now tell me what you see in this picture... more little bunnies ???
westurn at 09:50 PM JST - 21st July

Ummm, calicoat...

"Talk to Iran about nukes? Timetable to leave Iraq? What the heck has happened?"

Nothing ! You've just led yerself to believe that you somehow had a priveleged seat in the oval office courtesy of the world press over the past 7 years. Cmon people shake yerselves ! You have absolutely no idea what is going on in the inner chambers of the US presidents cabinet ! You have never been invited to sit in (thank god !) and every tiny morsel you get is spoon fed through hyperbole known as the world press ! If you come to this forum claiming otherwise.. well... you get a washcloth so you can go wash the mud from yer face !
cleo at 10:08 PM JST - 21st July

What makes you think attacks on American allies don't concern me ?

Lessee now...could it be the way you trumpet about 'no attacks on US soil' being an indication of the success of Dubya's warmongering, while somehow the attacks in the UK, Spain, etc etc get no mention? Could it be because they don't count in your eyes?

you would have been hell bent to find anyone in the USA who thought another attack wasn't coming on 9/12-13-14 etc !

So the rest of the world should just accept US warmongering because a majority of the US public are gullible fools? Was the reaction of the US public to Orson Welles' broadcast of The War of the Worlds any reason to shoot rockets into space?
Sarge at 10:28 PM JST - 21st July

Madverts - "The US will be bankrupt before victory"

But, but, I thought we were already bankrupt. Which is it, Madverts, WHICH IS IT?
freakashow at 11:04 PM JST - 21st July

Hilarious. I see the terrorist attacks that have occurred on the soil of American allies concern you not one little bit. Just so long as the Homeland is safe, huh? With friends like that....

good point, cleo. It's just that people like Westurn only see it as physical harm done and never look at the "big" picture. Guys like him claim to "see the connections", when in fact they don't. He fails to see that connection that ever since the U.S. invaded Iraq, many of our freedoms were taken away, thus making our lives more uncomfortable. Ask anyone to see if they agree with the righties that we pay less now for flying than before the war. Sure, no attacks have occured on U.S. soil, but as for Americans traveling into other countries; that is another matter. Just look at Afghanistan, which should have been Bush's main objective in the first place. Warlords still run the land and opium production has increased (and let's not even think where profits from that business are being used).

Unfortunately, Bush's lone policy is so simple: acquire enough money to spend it on military, send the troops in and kill as many militants as possible, with no care for civilians (or casualties of war, as he would put it). I shudder to think just how many more Osamas and Saddams he is "breeding" because of this ludicrous policy of his.

Sure, U.S. military casualties in the Iraqi war have been kept at a "minimum", but let's not forget the thousands upon thousands of soldiers who have been sent home with injuries and mental illnesses. I pray that we never see another Timothy McVeigh again.
FromEurope at 12:22 AM JST - 22nd July

"In addition, as you are such an expert on Americans, you should know that we prefer to cheer for "our" team"

That's exactly what Cleo meant. Egocentric and arrogant. Chauvinism in the sports games can be tolerated, but in the humanitarian issue, like the victims of war or terrorism, it's just lack of compassion and concern.
Madverts at 12:43 AM JST - 22nd July

westurn,

"Madverts remains confused..."

Heh, you attempted to claim what's happened to Iraq was linked to the terror attacks in New York.
Madverts at 12:45 AM JST - 22nd July

"But, but, I thought we were already bankrupt. Which is it, Madverts, WHICH IS IT?"

No, Bush Co hasn't completely driven you into the ground....yet.

Please refrain from shrieking at me sarge, there's a good lad.
westurn at 06:32 AM JST - 22nd July

And lok at madverts backpeddling ...

"No, Bush Co hasn't completely driven you into the ground..."

And he, nor any other American President, ever will ! Spend more time on the reasons why and less on stamping yer foot in frustration... good lad !
adaydream at 06:37 AM JST - 22nd July

Madverts - western makes a lot of statements that he can't support, just shooting from the hip.

Ask him for links/proof.

CNN is reporting now that Al-Maliki is agreeing with Obama that his timeframe is pretty close to what he's thinking. < :-)
Sarge at 07:09 AM JST - 22nd July

What CNN isn't reporting is that Al-Maliki is agreeing that the timetable isn't going to be set in concrete - that U.S. troops will be withdrawn according to conditions on the ground.
Madverts at 04:54 PM JST - 22nd July

westurn,

I'm still laughing at your 9-11 connection.

Moderator: Stay on topic please.
TheDonald at 03:53 AM JST - 25th July

@ ca1ic0cat: He is attempting (rather fruitlessly, at this point) to turn the table on the view of his irrational policy the last few years, no doubt in an effort to stop it from reflecting on the rest of his party members, most likely so people can stop seeing John McCain as a spitten image of him, policy wise.

What I find funny is that back in 04, he harped mercilessly on JFK's changing positions (actually he just repeated the statement that he changes, like a broken take recorder or a brainlagged R-tard, and the crowds ate it up for some reason) and now this.

At least its.. some sign of accountability, since he's trying to cleanup the (political) mess(?).
chardk1 at 01:54 PM JST - 25th July

I enjoy bashing Dubya as much as the next guy, but let's not lose sight of the fact that it's a good thing for the American President to be making prudent and rational decisions. Now that both sides have "flip-flopped" hopefully we can return to a culture that understands that flexibility and adaptability are GOOD qualities, has kept mankind from extinction and should not be dismissed simplemindedly as "flip-flopping." One of the stupidest and most corrosive memes of the past several years if you ask me.