Bush, in farewell address, says he acted in nation's best interest

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Molenir at 12:25 PM JST - 18th January

I am going to miss George Bush's ability to push the naysayers completely over the edge. Its going to get really boring around here without him.

Now that is something I'll agree with. He did have an amazing ability to make people absolutely rabidly irrational with hate. You can see quite a few of them in this thread even. Most of the people who despise Bush, don't even have rational reasons for that hate. Its amusing really. I didn't like him myself, but I'm definitely not a hater.
TonyUS at 02:24 PM JST - 18th January

Athletes, you are right with rights abuses around the world, I agree and also agree something should be done in all of them. I always said we would not be in Iraq if there was not something there of interest, which definitely was the oil. I have used that arguement many times myself about why we are at war there, but at the same time I was always for the idea of the people being freed from Hussien's grip.

Also I am very well p-ssed af that Burma is under military rule and have used that as an exapmple why we are in Iraq and not some of these other place such as Burma and the suffering those people are going throuugh with no help from anyone.

I am for the moral high ground in all instances and can not understand the large powers of the world just sitting back letting these people suffer when something could be done.

Also I agree with you about not taking on major powers, but I am sure you can understand that because of the circumstances that could result if one decides it is do or die in such a conflict. That is why Russia, China, and the US seem to have all these conflicting interests and each go about their everyday bussiness not confronting one another on these conflicting interests. I would love to see US take out Russia's Putin and Communist China's Hu and his yes guys, but I never see that happening of course. Besides Russia and CHina is the reason we can not get anything done in such countries you mention above, because of veto power in the UN and them just being members of the usless UN, which in my opinion is what makes the UN usless when you have authoritarian permentent members being a part of it that supports these togue leaders around the world.

Sure US was in Iraq for one reason only, oil . damn right, That is why I have said again and again, I never liked Bush and all was lies about why we went into Iraq, but wether lies or not, there is going to be one more people of the world liberated from a tyrant, and I will be satisified with that out come and hope that there will be a day that all major powers will take a moral high ground and free all that is living in a controlled society ran by those that could care less fabout its people as being human beings that all deserve rights and not as an object that is something to be taken out with the trash.

Above all else the Bush administration screwed up the war big time right from the sttart that has brought so many casualties to both sides, US and its allies and the Iraqi people.

Myanmar,, Burma. is disgusting and once known as the jewel of the east, its beauty,, what a shame, but we see who has the ties with such nations.... China, Iran..CHina. Russia..S, Korea, China made them and supported them and still are because they still exist today after how many years of 6 party talks?? It is a friggin joke these six party talks, they have accomplished nothing except to keep N. Korea China's bargianing chip with the US with other issues such as Taiwan.. Just more of Bush's bullshit stupid policies.
nutsagain at 04:41 AM JST - 19th January

What a short memory the public has, Bush senior was also thoroughly useless as a president and clearly not the sharpest knife in the box. Billionaire oil men, the Bush family buys presidencies and get this; George senior (Read my lips, no new taxes) has said Jeb Bush will make a run in 2012. So the Bush show is far from over folks. Stay tuned for President Jeb Bush. God ... can the world take another Bush?
JoeBigs at 07:44 AM JST - 19th January

WhiteHawk at 03:53 AM JST - 17th January Belarus, shmelarus. It's still lower than under Carter's policies.

WH when you stated that unemployment was higher under Cater you were your correct.

But, what many here fail to understand is that when Carter came to office unemployment was at 6.9% and when he left office it was 6.0%. Meaning under Carter unemployment dropped .9%. Not bad but of course not great.

Now on the other hand, when Bush 2 came to office unemployment was at 4.0%. But when he left unemployment will be at around 4.6%. Meaning under Bush unemployment went up.

I dont know about anyone else but Carter looks better on Unemployment.

If you want to do the research, just google; Bush unemployment and so on.

Let us move next to job creation by president all the way back to Hoover.

I will compare Bush versus the dreaded Republican whipping boy known as President Carter. Who created more jobs in their terms.

Jimmy Carter +10.3 million

George W. Bush +3.01 million as of Dec. 2008

Welp it appears that President Carter beat President Bush one more time.

Carter beats Bush on unemployment

Carter beats Bush on job creation

Start here to get the historical figures.

http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.tn.htm

The better the President the more jobs created.

Moderator: Jimmy Carter is not relevant to this discussion.
Zenpun at 08:44 AM JST - 19th January

Jan 20th of 2009 will be the gloriest day in my living memory. I would like to leave behind the memory of the nightmares and suffering of the countless people.

No one or nothing can change the perception that Mr George Walker Bush was partly responsible creating the world wide depression. He made US broke and left with a mountain of debts. If these strongest consumer broke, the world is broke too. Once might US banks are kneeling on the ground. Daddy Bush said "read my lips" for tax cut. Bush said " it was on my watch for generous tax cut". His spending spree habits and unsustainable budgets created more debts.

He likes self compliments because not many people or media has praised him. His legacy was budget deficits, high unemployment, super expensive long term wars and economy is stupid.
Nessie at 09:47 AM JST - 19th January

Bush, in farewell address, says he acted in nation's best interest

Which nation -- Saudi Arabia, or Iran?
TonyUS at 10:55 AM JST - 19th January

Well I se e it pretty plain. as the trade deficit kept growing so did the conditions here in the US keep going down hill. Industries kept closing and more and more people overseas were going to work making the products we here in the US demanded. Same with all the other so called industrial nations. The only ones that gained during this conditions has been those producing our products.. Look at the growth rates of countries. over 10% in China and they are so worried about it dropping to maybe 8% this year while the rest of us are looking at none???? Our leaders have sold us out! Plus at the same time we are supporting a commuist country with a suppressed society. Let's see our leaders turn that around and get production of our goods in the hands of our own people, not just here in the US. China grows at historic rates as we go into reccesion or depression.. Not hard to see a problem here.
ptolemy at 06:26 PM JST - 19th January

I think the main point is being missed, my dog would have been elected if he had a (D) and not an (R) after his name on the ballot.
zurcronium at 06:07 PM JST - 20th January

ptolemy,

that is correct and you can thank bush for this fact. mccain did not have a chance even with the sideshow palin stunt. In the US only 23% of the public think the repubs can help the US with its many, many problems. Of course because most of them were created by bush and the repubs.
zurcronium at 06:10 PM JST - 20th January

Nessie,

thats a tough question. He did encourage NK to go nuclear, dont forget that. The dear leader is no doubt very grateful to bush for their new found worldwide respect.

We can cross off Iraq for sure.
PaizuriSan at 06:32 PM JST - 20th January

Which nation's interest? 'Cause it sure wasn't America's!Q
OhioDonna at 12:45 AM JST - 22nd January

He had his good points but as Shakespeare wrote: 'the good is oft interred with the bones.' Farewell Mr. President.
EurajReturns at 12:50 AM JST - 22nd January

I can hardly agree with that statement, but I guess time will tell.
OhioDonna at 05:02 AM JST - 22nd January

Please don't hate me because I am going to miss him.
Taka313 at 10:18 AM JST - 22nd January

OhioDonna,

I absolutely don't hate you because you will miss bush. I'm delighted that you will miss him.

It's kind of a "how can I miss you if you won't go away" thing. ;-)

Taka