RedMeat - "Let's not forget that once upon a time Mugabe made a lot of "progressives" feel very good about themselves, always the most important consideration when these people start to talk about improving the lot of Africans."
What are you talking about?
Who are these mysterious "progressives"? Is that code for people who scare you? :-)
bush, just sit there and denounce. when you let the whole world denounce your own country, you're the last person to denounce or have an intelligent say about anything.
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I just wonder if Zimbabwe had oil, would something more "proactive" have been done by the Bush administration already?
JapanToday should just preprint these quotes at the top of any thread involving George Bush commenting on another leader. It would be like how The Wheel of Fortune gives their players R-L-S-T-N at the beginning of the final round. It gives everyone a chance to have something to say, even when they can't think of anything themselves. :)
Superlib - you are putting yourself in a very weak position by appearing to say it's OK to be an incompetent leader, but it's not ok to criticize that incompetence.
Bush is excused: they (the state department) are misleading him about what the actual problem is in Zimbabwe - remember Powell being booed by 5000 people in Jo'burg. He didn't get it then and still doesn't I believe or he'd have said something.
Mandela on the other hand is pathetic. He is directly resonsible for the damage to Zimbabwe. After all it was his lobbying to Japan and the likes in '97 that got the plot rolling. And let's not forget that Mandela sanctioned the invasion of DRC by South Africa's proxey - Rwanda.
Mbeki should stop being silent and let the cat out of the bag.
Look what they did to Chiluba for refusing to take their money? They 'tried' him in London. Even took his suits!!!
Thug-in-Chief Robert Mugabe has been stripped of the honorary knighthood which The Crown, in all its wisdom, saw fit to confer upon him only 14 years ago.
He is probably devasted.
whilst the knighthood is conferred by the Queen, the force behind the award is the British Government - so blame for the 'wisdom' of this should be laid at the Major Government.
starviking,
Mugabe is doing what? The food for Zimbabwe was produced by white farmers only - under the friggen law! They stopped food and switched to tobacco. Mugabe decided if they will only answer to London then they should at least pay a tax on the tobacco so the country can fund imports of food. Their bosses - the south africans decided to destroy the economy - ASK KOIZUMI, MANDELA, PETER HAIN, MBEKI...
Mugabe must resist under all circumstances! If he gives them one inch of Zimbabwe then we will have his head! Zimbabwe will never be south africa's colony!
Mugabew is mortal and he will die sooner or later and guess what sir? The fight will continue.
Guys, NATO did help Cosovo even though there's no OIL in that place.
Cambodia has no OIL ...but the WEST still helped the people there to get rid of their killer regime,Khamae Rouge.
Hopefully, NATO and the West will help people of Zimbabwe and Burma(Myanmmar) to get rid of the despotic dictators there.
Superlib - you are putting yourself in a very weak position by appearing to say it's OK to be an incompetent leader, but it's not ok to criticize that incompetence.
I can only assume you waste our time with statements like this just so you can put on a show for the others.
Mugabe gave the farms to his cronies and the 'war veterans' who proceeded to do NOTHING with the land.
When people organised and protested he TERRORISED them. It was something he was familiar with, having MURDERED thousands of civilans in Matabeleland in the 1980s.
You also seem confused, you say 'if they will only answer to London' then say 'Their bosses - the south africans'. Well, who is in charge of your conspiracy - South Africa or the UK?
As for the people you suggest I ask:
Koizumi - what does he know about Southern Africa?
Mandela and Peter Hain - thinks Mugabe is a tyrant who must go.
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KyouNoNippon at 09:58 AM JST - 26th June
Just send Jason Bourne in to throw a firecracker behind him. That'll take him out I reckon.
SushiSake3 at 11:04 AM JST - 26th June
RedMeat - "Let's not forget that once upon a time Mugabe made a lot of "progressives" feel very good about themselves, always the most important consideration when these people start to talk about improving the lot of Africans."
What are you talking about?
Who are these mysterious "progressives"? Is that code for people who scare you? :-)
timorborder at 11:14 AM JST - 26th June
Mugabe is a dictator. Whatever he did vis-a-vis Zimbawean indepedence has been cancelled out by his shocking behavior over the last two decades.
SuperLib at 01:06 PM JST - 26th June
and
JapanToday should just preprint these quotes at the top of any thread involving George Bush commenting on another leader. It would be like how The Wheel of Fortune gives their players R-L-S-T-N at the beginning of the final round. It gives everyone a chance to have something to say, even when they can't think of anything themselves. :)
SushiSake3 at 02:07 PM JST - 26th June
Superlib - you are putting yourself in a very weak position by appearing to say it's OK to be an incompetent leader, but it's not ok to criticize that incompetence.
Some might call it defending failure.
unscrejects at 03:00 PM JST - 26th June
Bush is excused: they (the state department) are misleading him about what the actual problem is in Zimbabwe - remember Powell being booed by 5000 people in Jo'burg. He didn't get it then and still doesn't I believe or he'd have said something. Mandela on the other hand is pathetic. He is directly resonsible for the damage to Zimbabwe. After all it was his lobbying to Japan and the likes in '97 that got the plot rolling. And let's not forget that Mandela sanctioned the invasion of DRC by South Africa's proxey - Rwanda. Mbeki should stop being silent and let the cat out of the bag. Look what they did to Chiluba for refusing to take their money? They 'tried' him in London. Even took his suits!!!
RedMeatKoolAid at 03:01 PM JST - 26th June
Thug-in-Chief Robert Mugabe has been stripped of the honorary knighthood which The Crown, in all its wisdom, saw fit to confer upon him only 14 years ago. He is probably devasted.
news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Mugabe-is-stripped-of-knighthood.4223823.jp
Starviking at 05:15 PM JST - 26th June
RedMeatKoolAid,
whilst the knighthood is conferred by the Queen, the force behind the award is the British Government - so blame for the 'wisdom' of this should be laid at the Major Government.
Starviking at 05:16 PM JST - 26th June
unscrejects,
so you're saying everyone is to blame except Mugabe? Riiiight!
Triumvere at 05:25 PM JST - 26th June
The "bet if there was oil" thing is a tiresome cliche.
If you haven't noticed, we're kinda maxed out on the "optional war" front right now. Call back later.
niku at 06:03 PM JST - 26th June
Maybe if there were some oil in Zimbabwe.....
unscrejects at 08:41 PM JST - 26th June
starviking, Mugabe is doing what? The food for Zimbabwe was produced by white farmers only - under the friggen law! They stopped food and switched to tobacco. Mugabe decided if they will only answer to London then they should at least pay a tax on the tobacco so the country can fund imports of food. Their bosses - the south africans decided to destroy the economy - ASK KOIZUMI, MANDELA, PETER HAIN, MBEKI... Mugabe must resist under all circumstances! If he gives them one inch of Zimbabwe then we will have his head! Zimbabwe will never be south africa's colony! Mugabew is mortal and he will die sooner or later and guess what sir? The fight will continue.
Jyan_Bon at 03:44 AM JST - 27th June
Guys, NATO did help Cosovo even though there's no OIL in that place. Cambodia has no OIL ...but the WEST still helped the people there to get rid of their killer regime,Khamae Rouge. Hopefully, NATO and the West will help people of Zimbabwe and Burma(Myanmmar) to get rid of the despotic dictators there.
SuperLib at 04:11 AM JST - 27th June
I can only assume you waste our time with statements like this just so you can put on a show for the others.
Starviking at 09:55 AM JST - 30th June
unscrejects,
Mugabe gave the farms to his cronies and the 'war veterans' who proceeded to do NOTHING with the land.
When people organised and protested he TERRORISED them. It was something he was familiar with, having MURDERED thousands of civilans in Matabeleland in the 1980s.
You also seem confused, you say 'if they will only answer to London' then say 'Their bosses - the south africans'. Well, who is in charge of your conspiracy - South Africa or the UK?
As for the people you suggest I ask:
Koizumi - what does he know about Southern Africa?
Mandela and Peter Hain - thinks Mugabe is a tyrant who must go.
Thabo Mbeki - is a fool.
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