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adaydream
george, just stay there. your term is almost over and nobody wants you back in the USA. Maybe you can help reduce the interest on these horrendous loans we have with China. Oh, enjopy the Olympics. But just stay. < :-)
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USAPatriot
adaydream; How can you make a statement like that about the worlds greatest living statesman?
He will go to Asia spreading his message for peace, and increase support from Asia for our policies.
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Betzee
I recently saw some survey results illuminating which Chinese citizens are most nationalistic. Paradoxically, it is those who have traveled or lived abroad, allowing them to interact with non-PRC nationals on a regular basis, who tend to be the most nationalistic.
The reason for this is that they encounter simplistic conceptions of life in contemporary China more frequently, such as the view that China remains a totalitarian state (so identified today in the LA Times where the editor failed to check the definition of the word). That's why Chinese student demonstrations broke out at American university campuses during the Tibetan riots earlier this year.
The same citizens who may express criticism when talking amongst themselves, become defensive when ill-informed foreigners such as that CNN bozo start to bash their country. When they defend the PRC's achievements such as the American-style consumption oriented lifestyle many urbanites enjoy, they are accused of being apologists for the regime which, wonders never cease, simply produces more defensiveness on their part.
It's into this downward spiral or recrimination that GWB will step, one hand extended to receive another cash infusion to keep Uncle Sam afloat, and the other ready to lecture the Chinese on freedom. Few PRC nationals believe there's a catch-all solution to the variety of problems confronting their nation. He will simply reinforce the widely held view that Westerners are clueless simpletons.
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USAPatriot
Betzee; Heck what you say about Bush is close to Blasphemy. The man is highly regarded by the Chinese leaders, and the average Chinese view him as a wise man who promotes peace.
Bush will increase freedoms in Asia, and gain more respect for the US, as these countries see whata true intrnational diplomat he is.
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Betzee
In fact I believe that GWB had his heart set on attending the Olympics, one last harrah at President where he would get VIP ("celebrity") treatment, and was not going to make any personal sacrifices to show solidarity with China's disenfranchised. Nope, he's going the engagement route which many view as a cover for sleazy business deals.
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USAPatriot
Betzee; There you go again. Bush does not do sleazy business deals. he is a man of god!!He is going to China to spread peace, and so the people of Asia can see the worlds greatest living statesman.
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Betzee
Some, mainly on the right in fact, feel we long ago abandoned any serious attempt to challenge the PRC's one-party state government in exchange for the right to unfettered commerce with China. And I think GWB's visit will only serve to prove them right.
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USAPatriot
Betzee; More claims about our most successfull president ever!!
Bush only does what is right morally. He puts freedom first, and will not accept bad government for the sake of profit. This guy is a diplomat and a god fearing man,who only cares about all people on this planet.
Give hima break, he is going to China to increase peoples freedoms.
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Betzee
Oh, so it's OK for GWB to go on overseas junkets where he can present himself as a statesmen using soaring rhetoric to inspire people but when Barack Obama makes the same type of trip he's derided as an empty-suit celebrity wannabe.
Will GWB address the Chinese people from the Great Wall?
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USAPatriot
Betzee: I do not know Bush`s agenda for this trip. The difference between Bush and Barack Hussein Obama is one of being a genuine person. Bush is going to Asia to tell leaders how to create freedoms and make their region more secure. He will also instruct the Chinese to improve their human rights record.
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ExPrinceska
So he won't visit Japan, is Japan so irrelevant? He has to apologize for the radiation leak.
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USAPatriot
ExPrinceska; He doesn
t have to apologise for anything. I havent heard Russia apologise for Chernoble.He is going to ASia to spread Peace, i am sure he will meet LDP representatives in China, if he wishes.
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Betzee
That's an awfully low bar, kinda goes against your unwavering insistence that GWB is an inspirational man capable of being all things to all people.
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ExPrinceska
Usa Patriot,
I will respect Bush if he visits Hiroshima and Nagasaki this month and apologizes for what his predecessor did. I do not know if USA has officially apologized for atom bomb??
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USAPatriot
Betzee; Bush has started improving life for hundreds of millions of Asians.
Slowly China is opening up ,due to pressure from Bush. Bush is doing gods work, spreading peace, and understanding throughout Asia.
Only a man with his intelligence and integrity can acieve this. Barack Hussein Obama, is not genuine, people can see that, and do not trust him.
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USAPatriot
ExPrinceska; Bush does not need to apologise for the bombings. They created peace and freedom for Japan. Saved millions of Japanese lives and possibly 1 million US lives. Bush come to Asia for peace. the USA = peace.
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Betzee
So he claims. In one typical speech he declared, "As China reforms its economy, its leaders are finding that once the door is opened even a crack, it cannot be closed." Their ace in the hole in dealing with him on this final visit is that he actually believes this. In reality the CCP leadership has demonstrated doors can be regularly opened more than a crack and then closed again.
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Triple888
Good retirement trip! Hope he enjoys it during his last days in office.
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SezWho2
Although our relationship with Japan is supposedly our most important bi-lateral relationship (take that you Canadians and Brits!), Bush does not seem to have Japan on his itinerary. Instead we're going to South Korea to promote US beef. Now that may or may not have something to do with the fact that a visit to Japan before the Olympics would put him here around the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing. I don't know. But I do know that if he were here at that time he would have to say something about it and I suspect that he would rather not.
I think it is beyond expectation that Bush would visit Hiroshima or Nagasaki. He, as would any other American president, struggle to find something politically safe to say there. America is not ready to apologize, in fact, largely believes that it saved the world from greater destruction. However, it would be nice if Bush could work in a small courtesy visit on his way home. Or would that be too close to the anniversary of Nagasaki?
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LIBERTAS
Bush is front-loaded for the continent with nuclear trouble, political worries, recovery from natural depression. His usual self.
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USAPatriot
SezWho2; Bush has nothing to apologise for. The bombings were a glorious end to the terrible war started by he IMperial Japanese army.
Millions of Japanese lives were saved, up to 1 million US and British troops lives were saved.
BUsh is going to spread peace on this trip. Japan would like to use his trip for self serving propaganda, ie victim mentality.
Bush is above that kind of behaviour.
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SezWho2
USAPatriot,
Whether Bush has anything to apologize for or not is beside the point. He couldn't apologize if he wanted to. And I'm rather sure that he doesn't want to.
Japan does not want to use Bush's itinerary for self-serving propaganda. What it wants is the courtesy that is customarily extended to a major ally.
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Xennon
More claims about our most successfull president ever!!
HAHAHAH! You actually had me spit out my coffee when I read that. Thank you for the humor USAPat. You are a true gem.
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SushiSake3
The World's Greatest Loser travels to the World's Greatest Sporting Spectacle to pay homage to the World's Most Repressive Communist State before he ends the Greatest Disaster of a U.S. Presidential Term in History.
That's quite a feat :-)
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SushiSake3
USAPatiot - "Bush only does what is right morally. He puts freedom first, and will not accept bad government for the sake of profit. This guy is a diplomat and a god fearing man,who only cares about all people on this planet."
ha ha ha!!! That's a howler! There's people out there in the Republican Party who will actually believe that.
I'm just glad they are in the insignificant minority.
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SushiSake3
USAPatriot - "Bush is doing gods work, spreading peace, and understanding throughout Asia."
And Secretary of State Condaleeza Rice is really Batman......
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SushiSake3
It's probably fitting that Bush ends his 8-year frenzy of failure with a bang - in another country.
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pathat
"economic and security dividends pay off back home"
This is truly an amazing statement.
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Sarge
pathat - "economic and security dividends pay off back home"
"This is truly an amazing statement"
What's so amazing about it?
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SushiSake3
Sarge - "What's so amazing about it?"
Heh, after 8 long years, Sarge STILL doesn't get it. :-)
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Sarge
Perhaps Sushi can tell us what's so amazing about it.
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SushiSake3
Sarge, how many more years are you going to womble through politics without having a real clue as to what is actually going on?
"economic and security dividends pay off back home"
What is amazing about this is that it is just wrong.
Firstly, China has America wrapped around its little finger financially - one word from China's Finance Minister about selling US dollars or diversifying China's foreign currency holdings into other currencies would put a bomb under any US growth.
Bush's $168 billion fiscal stimulus package was effectively funded by loans from the Chinese and Japanese.
But you know this.
Secondly, can you explain what "security benefits" America might gain from a stronger, more arrogant China?
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Sarge
"China has America wrapped around its little finger financially"
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Do you know what would happen to China if the U.S. ever closed its market to Chinese "goods"? But the Chinese don't have to worry too much about that because "Bush is out to show that... the economic and security dividends pay off back home," meaning that engagement with China is good for the U.S., especially WalMart.
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rajakumar
Good.
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SushiSake3
Sarge - "engagement with China is good for the U.S., especially WalMart."
What, you mean all those manufactureing jobs that Americans could be working at but the Chinese are instead?
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USAPatriot
SushSake3; I agree with Sarge. Us benefits from cheap prices in the stores, heck! even minimum wage guys in the US have affluent lifestyles.
Bush will make China more peacefull and start human rights laws.
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