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Bush seen as yesterday's man in Europe

World Jun. 10, 2008 - 06:11AM JST ( 29 )

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Taka313Jun. 10, 2008 - 08:18AM JST

Oh boy. Now THIS is a story that's going to generate some posts.

Taka
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SushiSake3Jun. 10, 2008 - 09:59AM JST

Bush being 'Yesterday's Man' states the obvious in the same way as saying 'The sun is Hot.'

I'm still wondering what Bush's legacy is going to be, assuming even a shred of it will be positive, of course.

It's going to fun watching history prove to Bush and the Bush supporters that history is not going to prove the current president's past decisions as being wise ones.

As the old Bush family adage goes: "When you're at the bottom of the barrel, you can **always **go lower!"
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SushiSake3Jun. 10, 2008 - 10:06AM JST

What I love about Japan Today is the variety of reasoned, well thought out and intellectual debate that takes place daily covering such a wide variety of interesting topics and issues.

I just don't think we're going to see much of the above on this thread :-)
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some14someJun. 10, 2008 - 10:22AM JST

SushiSake3: seems you won US$50 amazon gift coupon :) Bush may be seen as man of YesterYears in Europe, how is he seen/will be seen in Islamic countries is more important.
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SushiSake3Jun. 10, 2008 - 10:49AM JST

some4some - "how is he seen/will be seen in Islamic countries is more important."

Without a doubt, president Bush will be seen in Islamic countries as the driving force behind the resurgence of their strength and numbers.

Bush has been a godsend to the terrorists. Just look at Iran.
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chardk1Jun. 10, 2008 - 11:38AM JST

What does Jon Stewart call him on the Daily Show, "Still-President Bush"? I guess Japan Today's next big breaking story will be "Consumers wish gas prices were lower."
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adaydreamJun. 10, 2008 - 12:05PM JST

he's saying good bye.

They're saying "GOOD RIDDANCE COWBOY!!!!" < :-)
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SushiSake3Jun. 10, 2008 - 02:52PM JST

I'm guessing Al Quaeda is going to offer Bush a Chief Recruiter job as soon as he leaves office.

The US president has excelled in attracting recruits to the terrorist cause while in office - now he has chance to be on the payroll of the group that owe him the most for their success.
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RedMeatKoolAidJun. 10, 2008 - 02:55PM JST

"Bush seen as yesterday's man in Europe" Has-beens always despise their fellow has-beens.
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HughgarseJun. 10, 2008 - 03:01PM JST

has he not been yesterday`s man for a while now?
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SargeJun. 10, 2008 - 03:14PM JST

"Bush has been a godsend to the terrorists"

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Terrorists don't think that.
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RedMeatKoolAidJun. 10, 2008 - 03:30PM JST

“As in all relationships, the EU and U.S. sometimes have different views,” Slovenian Foreign Minister Borat Rupel told reporters before Bush’s scheduled arrival Monday evening.

“I feel nothing for him,” said Borat, a 29-year-old CD vendor.

“My opinion of him? Negative,” said Borat, 19, a student.

“I believe that it’s more important now for all of us to see if his successor would do any change,” said Borat, a 42-year-old clothes designer in the capital, Lzjpbljzndha.
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SushiSake3Jun. 10, 2008 - 03:51PM JST

Sarge - "Terrorists don't think that."

Yes they do.
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skipthesongJun. 10, 2008 - 04:05PM JST

Bush will be seen in Islamic countries as the driving force behind the resurgence of their strength and numbers." Sushi, agreed. However, the picture you paint is as though he started them, which I hope even you don't believe that.

But, I do like: "I'm guessing Al Quaeda is going to offer Bush a Chief Recruiter job as soon as he leaves office." Don't be disappointed, but I do NOT disagree with you. This is kind of like his daddy being offered a presidency in Kuwait back in the day....
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SushiSake3Jun. 10, 2008 - 04:13PM JST

Sarge, even SkipTheSong thinks you are on the wrong side of history.

Skip, - "However, the picture you paint is as though he started them, which I hope even you don't believe that."

I don't. Gald to see you and I agreeing over something.

I'm glad we're not flatmates. Too many arguments :-)
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SushiSake3Jun. 10, 2008 - 04:13PM JST

'Glad' :-)
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skipthesongJun. 10, 2008 - 04:22PM JST

Sarge, even SkipTheSong thinks you are on the wrong side of history." No, he just looks at it differently. I say it was the entire US government, once things started coming out, people either jumped on the anti-war wagon or the pro-war wagon.

Sarge is into Bush, much the same you were into Hillary and Obama. I'm not into either those two or McC. Just like Obama because he's cool!
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SushiSake3Jun. 10, 2008 - 04:25PM JST

Skip, but is Obama cool enough to be elected president?? :-)

Americans have already elected a Village Idiot - twice - to he highest office in the land since 2000, so I'm open-minded about this ...
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caponeJun. 10, 2008 - 04:41PM JST

what took them so long ? he's been yesterday's news in the US for 3 years at least
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Loki520Jun. 10, 2008 - 04:54PM JST

Ironic that those who have never been "news" or "today's man", except when they needed US assistance, are now taking a stance such as this.

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the US the first to recognize them as thier own country back in the early 90's? Didn't the US specifically point to them as a trade partner to boost their new economy? Didn't the US fight for their admittance to the EU, NATO and some other organization?

Don't get me wrong... GWB is a moron, but let's face facts. The only reason they aren't some poodunk country with no growth or potential is because of the United States.
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skipthesongJun. 10, 2008 - 05:04PM JST

loki520: I stand with you. You are correct and the US, with GWB as president recognized a few other countries, recently Kosovo.

Skip, but is Obama cool enough to be elected president?? :-)" Yeah! Since we really have no choice between Dem or Repub, let's face it, Obama is cool and that really is enough to elect him president. Kind of like an Academy Award - some bad actors but they were cool. What else would you think is needed?

Americans have already elected a Village Idiot - twice - to he highest office in the land since 2000, so I'm open-minded about this .." I am not going to defend him, but weren't you happy Hamas was "elected" to office? Wasn't that part of your protest?

At least in the US, there are limits.
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TriumvereJun. 10, 2008 - 08:25PM JST

Bush has been yestarday's man ever since the ultra-long extended campaigning started; I rarely even remember he exists in anything other than the past tense.
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SargeJun. 10, 2008 - 10:55PM JST

Sushi - No, they don't.
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MadvertsJun. 11, 2008 - 12:07AM JST

"No, they don't."

Really, uh, sarge?

I'm not sure how you can argue that after the terrorist breeding ground Bush created in Iraq. Then again heh, you are the same bloke that claimed the other day that the Sadrist movement in Iraq was a "tiny minority", so I guess all these ill-informed claims by yourself should be taken with a pinch of salt!
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WhiteHawkJun. 11, 2008 - 02:54AM JST

Funny how Bush is being labeled "yesterday's man", yet democrats are still campaigning against him.
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KenjiYamamotoJun. 11, 2008 - 05:24AM JST

the e.u. doesn't have to care about bush and his country. they are 500 million strong and growing. they don't have the baggage of militant fascism. besides, with frustrated arabian politicians increasingly favoring the euro, it'll be interesting to see how things will turn out.
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SargeJun. 11, 2008 - 07:56AM JST

Whitehawk - That's because the Democrats are yesterday's politicians.

Madverts - "uh, sarge"

I'm laughing at the superior intellect.
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TriumvereJun. 11, 2008 - 08:44PM JST

"they don't have the baggage of militant fascism."

You realize where fascism as a modern political movement orginates from, don't you?
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RedMeatKoolAidJun. 12, 2008 - 03:58PM JST

"Bush seen as yesterday's man in Europe"

Perfect. Maybe he can help them catch up.

UK Telegraph headline: "Europe 'needs 75 years' to catch US"

"...the European Union's research and development levels were achieved by America as long ago as 1979, while the lag time on per capita income is 18 years.

"It will take the EU until 2072 to reach US levels of income per capita, and then only if the EU income growth exceeds that of the US by 0.5pc," the study said." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2005/03/12/cneucham12.xml