Would someone PLE-E-E-EASE!!! grab george bush's shirt and drag his ass home? You can't let him go anywhere he's not trying to attack Iran from a different direction. < :-)
Only if you'll drag Jimmy Carter's ass home. At least Bush is still president and as such, still represents the country. Carter hasn't been president in 27 years, and he only represents Hamas.
The reason the White House is so hell-bent on signing a long-term Status Of Forces Agreement: it would seemingly allow the U.S. to brand Iran as an enemy of Iraq and attack Iran in the name of defending Iraq pursuant a legal obligation under the status of forces agreement. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/40372.html
Other details from press accounts confirm that the Bush administration has one eye on Iran in the course of its negotiations with Iraqis. The Washington Post explains that the administration is seeking “the prerogative for U.S. forces to conduct operations without approval from the Iraqi government.”
The American negotiators also called for continued control over Iraqi airspace and the right to refuel planes in the air, adding to concerns that the United States was preparing to use Iraq as a base to attack Iran.
Since the administration is unlikely to get an Iran war authorized through Congress, it’s instead trying to sneak it through the Iraqi parliament. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/11/iran-war-iraq-sofa/
Jimmy Carter is overthere in a personal endeavor. He doesn't have the US government's blessing and he's not looking for it.
george bush is a representative of the United States. I don't want him representing me overseas or any other time. he can do nothing useful, that he hasn't already screwed up. < :-)
Hey what does bush care if he strikes iran or not, he ain't got much time left. With the mess he's leaving the next president over iraq, what does he care? He obviously didn't care about the countless lives lost and pain he caused from his debacle in iraq, why should he care in this case, he ain't doing any fighting.
I thought Ahmedinejad would get away with his islamic bomb, but recently I am increasingly convinced that Bush will try to take out the Iranian nuclear installations militarily before he leaves office.
I can only hope he succeeds; if he attacks and does not take out the installations, Ahmedinejad will have a pretext of abandoning the "peaceful purpose" sham and openly declare that Iran needs the bomb for "defense".
Destroying Iran's nuclear facilities by air is, at this point, the only thing that can save Bush's otherwise failed presidency. At least he'd be remembered for preventing the Islamofascist regime of Iran from acquiring nukes. Probably would have already been done had it not been for the foolish invasion and occupation of Iraq.
Jahdog - "The Washington Post explains that the administration is seeking “the prerogative for U.S. forces to conduct operations without approval from the Iraqi government.”
I read yesterday the Iraqi parliament is going to allow nothing of the sort. They have specifically said that if any Iraq-US agreement is created, it will explicity bar America from attacking neighboring countries from Iraq.
At least someone has some sense!
Besides, if anyone attacks Iran, Iran will block oil delivery routes and destroy refineries.
This will make the cost of oil rocket even higher and could actually destroy the U.S. middle class, not to mention many others.
I don't believe many Americans are aware of this, but it's pretty obvious that this will occur and Iran has clearly stated they will do this. (Ditto as a result of a U.S. airstrike.)
Not that Bush and co. care - this is precisely what they want.
This is just one of many reasons why it is critical Americans do not vote McCain in to power as he is similarly hellbent and is more than likely to trigger something like this.
It's like setting fire to a house to save an ant.
What really staggers me is the wild-eyed claims and threats of Americans on this board and elsewhere who holler about the 'need' to attack Iran.
It's pretty obvious these people have not engaged their brains in a very long time, and have completely failed to consider even the most obvious of consequences, even when said consequences are unfolding right in front of them.
Case in point: it's the SAME people who also holler about how America 'has' to stay in Iraq.
Meanwhile, their economy is crumbling.
Do they connect the dots?
No.
Do they consider that one just might be causing the other?
Again, no.
That said, what **does **make sense is the common personality disorders between the people I am talking about and the current U.S. president -
ie: the staggering lack of judgement, awareness, insight and responsibility.
adaydream - "george bush is a representative of the United States."
No he's not. George Bush is a representative of al Quaeda and other terrorists.
Want to know why?
OBL claimed he wanted to bankrupt America.
Bush has done it for him.
OBL wants Americans to cower in fear.
Many Americans like Sarge, et el, already are.
OBL may as well retire - Bush has accomplished his mission for him.
Another Iran-related point that highlights the sheer stupidity of the current U.S. administration, and connected to WilliB's quote
"I can only hope he succeeds; if he attacks and does not take out the installations, Ahmedinejad will have a pretext of abandoning the "peaceful purpose" sham and openly declare that Iran needs the bomb for "defense".
Bush's aggressive saber-rattling gives Iran and other 'bad' countries EVERY reason to arm themselves with nukes.
george bush or any other president doesn't have to do anything.
We've assured Isreal that we're behind them all the way. As soon as Obama got the presumed nod, gave that wonderful speach to the Jewish Coalition group that no matter what we're behind Isreal.
Now Isreal can attack Iran and the US will be forever there to back up their actions. You know Isreal, that other country that has nuclear weapons, that we defend so adamently. Yeah, we defend them and their right to have nuclear weapons, but chastize Iran.
The plan "A" is already set. Or do they go on to Plan "B"? < :-)
13 Comments
adaydream at 08:01 AM JST - 12th June
Would someone PLE-E-E-EASE!!! grab george bush's shirt and drag his ass home? You can't let him go anywhere he's not trying to attack Iran from a different direction. < :-)
WhiteHawk at 08:20 AM JST - 12th June
Only if you'll drag Jimmy Carter's ass home. At least Bush is still president and as such, still represents the country. Carter hasn't been president in 27 years, and he only represents Hamas.
Jahdog at 08:30 AM JST - 12th June
The reason the White House is so hell-bent on signing a long-term Status Of Forces Agreement: it would seemingly allow the U.S. to brand Iran as an enemy of Iraq and attack Iran in the name of defending Iraq pursuant a legal obligation under the status of forces agreement. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/40372.html
Other details from press accounts confirm that the Bush administration has one eye on Iran in the course of its negotiations with Iraqis. The Washington Post explains that the administration is seeking “the prerogative for U.S. forces to conduct operations without approval from the Iraqi government.”
The American negotiators also called for continued control over Iraqi airspace and the right to refuel planes in the air, adding to concerns that the United States was preparing to use Iraq as a base to attack Iran.
Since the administration is unlikely to get an Iran war authorized through Congress, it’s instead trying to sneak it through the Iraqi parliament. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/11/iran-war-iraq-sofa/
adaydream at 09:19 AM JST - 12th June
Wasn't it Al-Maliki who just visited Iran. Iran was looking for an assurance that American troops will never be allowed to attack Iran from Iraq.
Iran knows exactly what george bush has in mind.
Isreal attacks Iran. The US supports (heh..heh..heh) from Iraq. < :-)
adaydream at 11:09 AM JST - 12th June
Jimmy Carter is overthere in a personal endeavor. He doesn't have the US government's blessing and he's not looking for it.
george bush is a representative of the United States. I don't want him representing me overseas or any other time. he can do nothing useful, that he hasn't already screwed up. < :-)
rjd_jr at 02:57 PM JST - 12th June
Hey what does bush care if he strikes iran or not, he ain't got much time left. With the mess he's leaving the next president over iraq, what does he care? He obviously didn't care about the countless lives lost and pain he caused from his debacle in iraq, why should he care in this case, he ain't doing any fighting.
WilliB at 03:14 PM JST - 12th June
I thought Ahmedinejad would get away with his islamic bomb, but recently I am increasingly convinced that Bush will try to take out the Iranian nuclear installations militarily before he leaves office.
I can only hope he succeeds; if he attacks and does not take out the installations, Ahmedinejad will have a pretext of abandoning the "peaceful purpose" sham and openly declare that Iran needs the bomb for "defense".
Helter_Skelter at 03:41 PM JST - 12th June
Destroying Iran's nuclear facilities by air is, at this point, the only thing that can save Bush's otherwise failed presidency. At least he'd be remembered for preventing the Islamofascist regime of Iran from acquiring nukes. Probably would have already been done had it not been for the foolish invasion and occupation of Iraq.
SushiSake3 at 04:53 PM JST - 12th June
Jahdog - "The Washington Post explains that the administration is seeking “the prerogative for U.S. forces to conduct operations without approval from the Iraqi government.”
I read yesterday the Iraqi parliament is going to allow nothing of the sort. They have specifically said that if any Iraq-US agreement is created, it will explicity bar America from attacking neighboring countries from Iraq.
At least someone has some sense!
Besides, if anyone attacks Iran, Iran will block oil delivery routes and destroy refineries.
This will make the cost of oil rocket even higher and could actually destroy the U.S. middle class, not to mention many others.
I don't believe many Americans are aware of this, but it's pretty obvious that this will occur and Iran has clearly stated they will do this. (Ditto as a result of a U.S. airstrike.)
Not that Bush and co. care - this is precisely what they want.
This is just one of many reasons why it is critical Americans do not vote McCain in to power as he is similarly hellbent and is more than likely to trigger something like this.
It's like setting fire to a house to save an ant.
What really staggers me is the wild-eyed claims and threats of Americans on this board and elsewhere who holler about the 'need' to attack Iran.
It's pretty obvious these people have not engaged their brains in a very long time, and have completely failed to consider even the most obvious of consequences, even when said consequences are unfolding right in front of them.
Case in point: it's the SAME people who also holler about how America 'has' to stay in Iraq.
Meanwhile, their economy is crumbling.
Do they connect the dots?
No.
Do they consider that one just might be causing the other?
Again, no.
That said, what **does **make sense is the common personality disorders between the people I am talking about and the current U.S. president -
ie: the staggering lack of judgement, awareness, insight and responsibility.
adaydream - "george bush is a representative of the United States."
No he's not. George Bush is a representative of al Quaeda and other terrorists.
Want to know why?
OBL claimed he wanted to bankrupt America.
Bush has done it for him.
OBL wants Americans to cower in fear.
Many Americans like Sarge, et el, already are.
OBL may as well retire - Bush has accomplished his mission for him.
SushiSake3 at 04:57 PM JST - 12th June
Another Iran-related point that highlights the sheer stupidity of the current U.S. administration, and connected to WilliB's quote
Bush's aggressive saber-rattling gives Iran and other 'bad' countries EVERY reason to arm themselves with nukes.
skipthesong at 05:22 PM JST - 12th June
What really staggers me is the wild-eyed claims and threats of Americans on this board and elsewhere who holler about the 'need' to attack Iran."
Sushi, I never said "attack Iran". It was you who was saying we have nothing to worry about with Iran having Nukes.
SushiSake3 at 05:40 PM JST - 12th June
Skip - "Sushi, I never said "attack Iran"."
Where did I say you did? :-)
adaydream at 11:41 PM JST - 12th June
george bush or any other president doesn't have to do anything.
We've assured Isreal that we're behind them all the way. As soon as Obama got the presumed nod, gave that wonderful speach to the Jewish Coalition group that no matter what we're behind Isreal.
Now Isreal can attack Iran and the US will be forever there to back up their actions. You know Isreal, that other country that has nuclear weapons, that we defend so adamently. Yeah, we defend them and their right to have nuclear weapons, but chastize Iran.
The plan "A" is already set. Or do they go on to Plan "B"? < :-)
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