Canadian seal hunt begins
OTTAWA —
An annual seal hunt on ice floes off Canada’s eastern seaboard got underway Monday, amid renewed opposition from animal rights groups and a looming European ban on seal products.
The Canadian government announced a total allowable catch this year of 338,000 harp, hooded and grey seals, out of herds of more than 6.4 million.
The cull began as usual in the Magdalen Islands region of the Saint Lawrence Gulf and is expected to later expand northward to the east coast of Newfoundland province.
Fisheries and Oceans department spokesman Phil Jenkins said 20 sealing vessels left in the early morning and were targeting a “fairly large herd” nestled up against the Magdalen Islands.
Sixteen observer permits were also issued to activists and media to monitor the hunt, he said.
On Sunday, as hunters gathered to remember four colleagues who died last year when their crippled vessel capsized in the icy waters of the North Atlantic, activists renewed their opposition to the hunt.
The Humane Society condemned this year’s slightly increased kill quota, up 5,000 from last year, saying in a statement it “flies in the face of the best available science and common sense.”
The animal rights group also accused the Canadian government of a “profound lack of judgment” in setting such an “absurdly high quota.”
“The last time Canada allowed this many seals to be killed, the harp seal population was reduced by as much as two thirds within a decade,” it said, accusing Ottawa of trying to “wipe them out.”
Fisheries Minister Gail Shea retorted the cull takes into account the advice of scientists “to ensure the seal population is maintained.”
The minister reiterated Ottawa’s commitment to “defend Canada’s humane and sustainable seal hunt, and the livelihoods that depend on it.”
In April, the European parliament is to vote on a proposed prohibition on seal products that would ban products derived from seals from being imported, exported or even transported across the 27-member bloc.
The measure still has to be approved by EU governments before it can be implemented.
Last week, Russia banned the hunting of harp seals less than a year old, after Prime Minister Vladimir Putin criticized the “bloody practice,” its natural resources ministry said.
Harp seals are hunted commercially off the coasts of Greenland, Norway, the United States, Namibia, Britain, Finland and Sweden. But Canada is home to the world’s largest annual commercial seal hunt.
The seals are hunted mainly for their pelts, but also for meat and fat, which is used in beauty products. In some countries, 12 to 15 week old pups were also prized for their snow-white fur.
According to the Canadian Fisheries and Oceans department, the value of the Canadian seal hunt in 2008 was C$7 million.
The average price per pelt received by sealers is approximately $52.
Sealing can represent 25-35% of 6,000 local fishermen’s total annual income, the department said.
In past years actors and activists including the Dalai Lama, Brigitte Bardot, Paul McCartney, Kim Bassinger and many others, have campaigned against the hunt.
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OssanAmerica
If the Dalai Lama is against this seal hunting, then can we assume that China is for it?
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grafton
“Sealing can represent 25-35% of 6,000 local fishermen’s total annual income, the department said.”
Are they really claiming that fishermen are only earning between 8,400 & 11,700 a year?
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cleo
There's no legitimate reason to kill a single one of these animals. Not a single one.
There is not a single good word that can be said in defence of these butchers, who club animals and leave them suffering on the ice, skin them alive and conscious, and throw live animals on deck using a hook through the eye socket. God, this makes me angry. May they all rot in Hell.
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grafton
“spokesman Phil Jenkins said 20 sealing vessels left in the early morning ….. Sixteen observer permits were also issued to activists and media to monitor the hunt”
Somehow I can’t see how 16 monitors are going to monitor 20 ships, but then I can’t see how they were ever meant to.
Cleo, I cannot allow my mind to really understand this, if I do I will snap & smash something. 338000 pointlessly killed seals, I just can’t take those numbers in. I had little to no opinion about Canada before today, they are such a none country, but now they are, a land of savages that butcher animals for no reason. Not even the money is enough to pretend to justify it.
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Altria
What is wrong with these Canadians?!
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smithinjapan
This is a disgusting practice that has no business going on in the present day. It's shameful, and the government allowing it is even more shameful.
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fds
personally, i don't see anything wrong with this. if you want to make it more humane, make hunter shoot them between the eyes instead of clubbing them. but in the end, as this is not sport, it comes down to economics. somebody is buying the products. as long as that continues the hunts will continue.
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cleo
Read the labels on everything you buy, people. Refuse to buy cosmetics that contain animal products (that's most of the 'quality' Japanese brands). Spit on anyone you see wearing a sealskin coat or hat.
It's apparently illegal to witness the 'hunt' without a permit. No need to ask what the intrepid hunters and the Canadian government are trying to hide.
grafton -
Not just pointlessly killed. Pointlessly subjected to unspeakable suffering at the hands of a bunch of inhuman thugs.
fds -
You see nothing wrong in wholesale slaughter and wanton abuse of animals just to make a quick buck? Maybe you should try peeling off your own skin, or get a friend to hook you in the eye and throw you over his shoulder onto a boat. Then come back and tell us you don't see anything wrong. Otherwise go and get a morality transplant, the one you have now isn't working.
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skipthesong
why do they have to club them?
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PaulieWalnuts
there are more dignified ways to protest without getting yourself arrested. this is assault and an arrestable offence, in Japan too. Don't you have a police officer in the family?
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cleo
Rap across the knuckles humbly accepted. Ok, spit in front of anyone you see wearing sealskin. Nothing a normal person can do could possibly be less dignified than walking the streets in a blood-soaked caveman suit.
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Youdontknow
Shameful Canada eh! Balancing the seal population is as poor an excuse as the Japanese 'research' one used for whaling.
Moderator: Whaling is not relevant to this discussion.
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kanadamanada
Cleo, I'm from Newfoundland so I thought that I'd weigh in with a little reality lesson. The fur of a harp seal is only white for the first 2 weeks of its life. WE DON'T HUNT THOSE! Hunting for "whitecoats" was discontinued in Canada in 1987, yet Sea Shepherd et al continue to use the image of the whitecoat seal pup for their propaganda campaigns. Here's a quote ""It doesn't matter what is true; it only matters what people believe is true." Paul Watson, Founder Sea Shepherd Conservation Society (SSCS)
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Paul Watson is a multi-millionaire.
There are few things I enjoy eating more than I do seal. It is, simply put, a sublime dining experience. Soft and juicy with a strong gamey flavour. It's like the world's best whalemeat, only 5x better. I eat alot of seal when I am back home. I also have a pair of sealskin mukluks that were gifted to me by my late grandfather that are warmer than any modern boots I have tried. On my shelf here in Sapporo is a bottle of seal oil capsules. Seal oil contains high levels of vitamin A and D in the best ratio (as compared to fish oils) and is the best source of Omega-3 fatty acids. Seal oil is also not as succeptible to rancidity when exposed to Oxygen and is therefore safer. Seal oil is richer in both DPA and EPA. You can google "n3 PUFA sea oil" for scientific studies that support this assertion.
The trouble wih anti-sealing activists is that they don't know how to separate the wheat from the chaff as they just react emotionally and have zero real science to back themselves up.
Cleo, I know they're cute, but can you honestly tell me that if they weren't adorable, you would still be angry? There are animals in the world that are actually ENDANGERED yet Sea Shepherd and anti-sealing activists are not screaming to save them....... I do so often wonder why...
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cleo
Yes. Cruelty to any animal is despicable. That includes pulling the legs off ugly spiders and dropping frogs onto concrete from the 10th floor. (Both of which I've caught kids (potential delinquents) doing 'for fun'.)
When the thug is standing over the seal with club in hand, that seal is endangered. How is it somehow not so bad to be abused and killed if you have lots of cousins?
As for how lovely seal meat tastes, sorry, to a vegetarian that's a meaningless argument.
Emotional is bad, but 'it tastes good' is OK?
A 2001 report by the IFAW found that out of a random sample of seal carcasses left on the ice,
In 13 (17%) of the 76 carcasses examined, there were no detectable lesions of the skull, leading to the conclusion that these seals had been skinned while conscious. An additional 19 (25%) seal carcasses exhibited minimal to moderate skull fractures indicative of “a decreased level of consciousness” but probably not unconsciousness. Combined, these figures are the source of the claim that up to 42% of the 76 seals examined may well have been skinned while conscious.
Video footage frm the same report showed that:
• 179 seals were observed hunted. Ninety-six of these were shot; 56 were shot or clubbed; 19 were clubbed or gaffed [Note: neither gaffs nor boat hooks are legal instruments for killing seals in Canada], and 8 were killed by unknown means.
• In 79% of cases, sealers did not check for a corneal reflex indicating that many of these seals potentially could have been skinned or hooked alive.
• Only 6% were bled immediately after being struck.
• 72 (40%) seals were shot or clubbed and left to suffer.
• At least 30 seals were hooked while still alive.
• At least 5 were bled alive.
• At least 4 were skinned alive.
http://www.ifaw.org/Publications/ProgramPublications/Seals/assetuploadfile43212084.pdf
How can 'it tastes good' and 'I like my mukluks and unnecessary supplements' be any kind of justification for this kind of barbarity?
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cleo
Now how did that extra word get in there.
...supplements justify barbarity.... of course.
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Badsey
Where is the Sea Sheperd?
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kanadamanada
Cleo, Thanks for the IFAW "data". Like I said, come back with some SCIENCE, please - not heresay from an animal "rights" group seeking more money. I found one quote in particular interesting - the one referring to the skulls that showed no trauma, whatsoever. What was the number? 17%!!! Wow! That sounds shocking to someone who'll take the bait. I wonder how then, did the hunter subdue the seals??? I suppose they just walked up to the seals and skinned it alive, right? Riiiiight. Let rephrase my earlier comment and request some INDEPENDENT scientific data. You know, the type that reasearchers do for scientific journals and not that comissioned by the animal rights lobby. You didn't comment about my definition of whitecoat seals. Thanks for the tacit acknowlegement.
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cleo
If they don't say what you like, they must be wrong of course. Maybe you'd like to give us 'scientific' data from the seal killers themselves, who are of course totally unbiased. (There's another set of butchers of marine mammals at the other end of the world, who try to tell us what they're doing is 'scientific'. No one believes them, either.)
Interesting that you jump gleefully on the '17%' figure. Is the exact number important? How many skinned-alive seals would you consider unacceptable? I note too that you change the wording; the report does not say 'no trauma whatsoever', it says 'no detectable lesions of the skull'. If you were a juvenile lump of blubber lying on the ice and I had a hefty club, I'm sure I could give you a good thwack around the head that would make you see stars and render you temporarily incapable of defending yourself or struggling hard without necessarily smashing your skull in - especially if I were in a hurry to thwack as many other baby seals as possible in the shortest possible time, because apparently the seal slaughter accounts for up to 30% of the thugs' income, and we all know that time is money.
(As an aside, isn't it funny that you decry the animal rights organisations because you say they're 'seeking more money', yet one of the reasons supporters of the seal killers give to 'justify' the slaughter is the profit the sealers make from it?)
I see very little difference in covering the ice with blood from a week-old whitecoat, and covering it in blood from a newly-weaned 'beater' - a seal that has reached the ripe old age of roughly 14 to 21 days and is considered 'fair game' by the seal 'hunters'.
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thundercat
Whether you like it or not, animals are resource that a nation has the right to responsibly harvest as a means for people to live and make a living. These are not endangered species, there are no Victorian style expeditions to the ends of the earth to capture these animals and furthermore, there is a market for seal products.
Cleo to say
ignorantly ignores an important part of Inuit tradition. Seal fur is prized for its warmth and being waterproof. Whether or not you agree with the commercialization of the seal fur trade and whether or not there are any 'legitimate' reasons for killing a seal seems to be a bit of an illogical emotional argument. The fur trade is older than Canada and until there is no demand it will continue to thrive.
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adaydream
The Canadian government announced a total allowable catch this year of 338,000 harp, hooded and grey seals, out of herds of more than 6.4 million.
I think these harp seal are as cute as the dickens, but we're not calling for the eradication of seals we're talking about culling the heard.
cleo
Gosh why not sit of anybody eating a hamburger, or a fish sandwich, how about anybody wearing leather shoes.
Yes they have to beat them to kill them verses shooting them to protect their value.
I'm sorry but I just don't get the anger that PETA wants to advocate for this. < :-)
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OssanAmerica
And other nation's brands too. But in a free society the consumer of course has trhe right to choose what they buy or don't buy.
Now this is what makes me giggle about the animal hugging crowd. Does anyone think it's legally or morally correct to go up to some total stranger and spit on them? When the fundamental thinking process is like this it's really no wonder that they support eco-terrorist organizations.
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patchadams
I don't know what to say...I love the Earth and all creatures great and small. I do not kill seals myself, and probably never will. I would agree that the commercial seal hunt should end as well, for it fuels the deathly system of capitalism. But beyond that, i don't know. There are worse things in the world, right? ..god knows i wouldn't club these seals.
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kanadamanada
Cleo, I suppose you never wear leather; including belts and shoes, eat 100% vegan, wear no makeup outside of red ochre and don't use modern medicines (all tested on animals - HUMANS!). I admire your use of the anti keywords like "club" (it's called a hakapik, btw) "skinned alive" (DFO officers found no such violations in the last number of years and these men are not on anyone's payroll besides the government's) "thugs" (family men) "wanton abuse" (sustainable, LEGAL harvest).
I stand by my remark that if they weren't cute, you wouldn't be bleating about them. Cleo, can you tell me why the anti-sealing organisations continue to use the whitecoat harpseal as their poster-child when, as I mentioned before, the whitecoat has not been harvested in the last 20 years? Is there any rational explanation other than the fact that it is cute as all get out and it brings in the money? No. It's a simple case of, as Paul Watson, millionaire owner of Sea Shepherd Society said, "It doesn't matter what is true; it only matters what people believe is true."
Moderator: This issue has nothing to do with whether anyone is vegan.
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cleo
kanadamanada -
You're right, I don't wear leather or eat meat. Vegetarian cosmetics are available (you just have to read the small print). It's amusing how people assume that everyone has the same lifestyle as themselves and therefore must be a hypocrite if they espouse different values. That said, in modern society it's impossible to avoid all animal products without becoming a hermit, and I have unwittingly bought products that I later found out contained things I didn't want to buy. All I can do is not buy them next time. It's a minefield out there.
lol You mean the same government that backs the slaughter to the hilt? Gosh yes, you'd expect them to be 100% unbiased. Not. Plenty of other observers (not that all that many people are allowed to observe - it's illegal to see a seal being killed unless you have a government permit) have documented plenty of abuses. Apparently the Canadian government claims to have laid more than 200 charges against sealers since 1996; why would they be doing that if there were no violations? Let's also consider the fact that last year new regulations were introduced 'aimed at ensuring that seals are dead before skinning' that will 'result in increased costs to sealers, and reduce the speed of the hunt'. Isn't that an admission that enough seals were being skinned alive to make it a problem even for the pro-slaughter Canadian government?
Maybe it's just word-play, but to my mind the word thug is a pretty good description of a 'family man' who needs laws to stop him skinning baby animals alive for a quick buck.
In addition the Canadian government admits that around 5% of the seals killed are 'struck and lost' - that's roughly 26,000 seals dying slowly under the water from their injuries, with no benefit whatsoever to anyone.
The IFAW are reporting that in this year's hunt they have found older seal pups that had been 'killed but left intact on the ice without having their skins removed', as well as one whitecoat killed and left. This is not a 'harvest'.
http://blog.stopthesealhunt.com/2009/03/ifaw-hunt-watch-2009-first-stage-closes-nearly-20000-seals-killed.html
My views on cruelty are well-known, and are not limited to any particular species. I'm not 'bleating' about the sharks here because it's a thread on SEALS.
It doesn't matter what is true; it only matters what people believe is true.
That works both ways, of course. The Canadian government is eager to have people believe the seal slaughter is necessary, humane, well-regulated and that the seals probably enjoy it as much as the sealers do. Regardless of the facts.
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Nessie
I avoid eating cosmetics altogether.
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cleo
lol Might have know Nessie would jump on that one. Actually, some of the Lush stuff does smell pretty yummy, and is labelled 'This product is inedible'.
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kanadamanada
Cleo, I mentioned that in recent years there haven't been charges laid for skinning seals alive, which is what you had referred to. Nice try to dodge around the jab again.
DFO officers are law officers and as such have some integrity. About DFO officers' impartiality you said "Gosh yes, you'd expect them to be 100% unbiased. Not." and then do a 180 as you googled yet another tidbit from your IFAW friends and tell us how "Apparently the Canadian government claims to have laid more than 200 charges against sealers since 1996; why would they be doing that if there were no violations?" Well, Cleo, why would they be doing that if DFO officers were acting to support and protect the hunt, as you've asserted? This is a complete and utter failure in logic, right here. By the way,last year's charges were split between equipment violations and not checking for blink reflexes in HEADSHOT seals which had been hauled out of the water with their faces blown off - dead.
My life is worth more than that of a cute animal. That's why I eat them.
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cleo
Because there are some outrages carried out on the ice that even government officials cannot ignore? Or because they cannot keep claiming nothing untoward is going on when the IFAW and others keep coming up with video and documentary evidence showing the opposite?
My views on vivisection and lab animals are also well known on JT, but still I'm pretty gobsmacked to see that you can't tell the difference between life-saving medical treatment and frivolous 'fashion' items.
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kanadamanada
Oh Cleo, this is getting good now. As for your 1st comment I would answer simply, "No. It's becaue they're doing their job." You really did put your foot in it on that one.
As for your second statment, I'd call this debating. If you and I thought the same way, you'd fine this far less interesting than you do and you'd have to find something else to make yourself feel different.
Your 3rd statement - yes, I can hear your voice loud and clear in my head, droning on with Sea Shepherd inspired rhetoric. I've got pics of myself with dead seals on the ice, if you 'd like to sea them. Dead rabbits, too. You probably wound't be interested in the dead moose, becaue they're really not cute at all and I don't see them in any posters.
And with your fourth statement you do admit that your life is more valuable than that of an animal. This was all I was looking for with my statement. Thank you.
Oh yeah, I forgot that you still haven't told me why the anti-sealing organisations still use pictures of whitecoat seals in their propaganda when the hunting of whitecoat seals off Newfoundland has been banned for over 20 years. Why is it you don't have an answer for this? Can't find anything on the IFAW website about that?
There's nothing frivolous about fashion if that's what you're into. Some people take it very seriously. Like how some people take BBQ seriously. Or veganism. Or activism. The best part is everyone thinks they're right, but not everyone can BE right.
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cleo
Got any pics of you under the ice? ;-)
You're welcome. Let me expand on that a little. Of course my life is more important to me than that of an animal. My life is more important to me than your life. The life of my dog, who is a cherished member of my family, is more important to me than your life. I would jump into icy water to rescue her if necessary, but you'd have to climb out by yourself, assuming the seals weren't pulling you under in revenge. But I still wouldn't club you over the head, skin you alive, or make a ¥40,000 wallet out of your skin.
http://www.williamwalles.jp/silver-Wallet/wwjp-ww-3329_rd-3-1344.html (And you say fur fashion isn't frivolous?)
As for why the anti-sealing organisations use whitecoats in their posters - I've already pointed out that I see no difference in killing a week-old whitecoat and a two-week-old beater, but then again I'm not the one who designs the posters.
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kanadamanada
That William Walles company has a good scam going with those wallets. Seal fur is pretty cheap, actually. I don't see anything more frivolous about that wallet than any other leather wallet, to tell you the truth. It's just a matter of taste and manipulating a market into thinking something is desirable. I could make one of those in about 15 minutes with my rudimentary leatherworking skills and flip them on Yahoo auction for a nice score. Thanks for the idea! You see no differenc between a whitecoat and a beater, but there is a clear difference. You don't see it because there are no beaters on the posters and you probably have never seen a picture of a beater until right now when you google it. Whitecoats are far cuter than beaters and it's the cute that gets the candy for Sea Shepherd and IFAW, oherwise they'd have pictures of endangered pygmy shrews and other endangered uglies getting equal billing. http://endangered-ugly.blogspot.com/
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cleo
Personally I can't see what this 'only cute endangered things need to be saved' idea has to do with anything. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to kill baby (or adult) seals because they're either cute or endangered. I'm saying it's a bad idea to* inflict unnecessary pain and suffering on fellow creatures*. The individual seal on the ice floe with The (family) Man standing over him with his hakapik aka a big caveman club with a spike in it is endangered no matter how many cousins he has. A little boy who was caught doing to the family cat what these family men do to seals (in their hundreds of thousands) would be sent away for psychiatric help.
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kanadamanada
"A little boy who was caught doing to the family cat what these family men do to seals (in their hundreds of thousands) would be sent away for psychiatric help." Not everywhere, he wouldn't, and that's an important fact which seems to fail you. You want to impose your morality on those of us who have been doing these things since before this sort of morality was made profitable by Greenpeace then Sea Shepherd, then the IFAW. We hunters don't try and impose our morality on you. We don't want you to eat meat. Fact is, we pretty much laugh at you. You don't see any anti-anti-hunting organisations, do you? Those involved in such things would seem pretty silly and I don't know many hunters who would be interested because for the most part we just don't care what you think and we'd rather be out harvesting our meat.
Now if you want to come on an internet forum and refer to men you've never met as "thugs" for killing animals you've never seen and have only read about - honest working men from my home performing a traditional hunt that goes back generations, well then I'm going to have something to say and it's not easy to talk your way around me because I know how both sides work. We've all got canine teeth for a reason, and it's not for eating apples.
What the cute and cuddly arguement has to do with it is the fact that you are so emotionally involved in your arguement "There is not a single good word that can be said in defence of these butchers, who club animals and leave them suffering on the ice, skin them alive and conscious, and throw live animals on deck using a hook through the eye socket. God, this makes me angry. May they all rot in Hell. " that you have no objectivity, whatsoever. You have no understanding of natural systems wand your misuse of the word "endangered" to further your agenda only proves this.
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