Carter offers to be communicator between Hamas, U.S., Israel

Tuesday 15th April, 05:27 AM JST

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skipthesong at 12:23 PM JST - 15th April

“I don’t think he should meet with killers,” Moyal said.

What Moval needs to understand, the new world order is that if the said people are poor and desolate, they can only be considered fighters of oppression and should be rewarded..
sabiwabi at 12:48 PM JST - 15th April

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the only thing Carter could possible do to bring peace to the area is rid it of Jews

Seems the policy Zionist have used for over 6 decades of ridding the region of Muslim and Christian Arabs hasn't brought much peace, so your idea might be worth a try.
skipthesong at 04:06 PM JST - 15th April

sabi, look at your post again. Re-read it to yourself about 20 times..

As for any idea of such being tried, look at a few history books - it has been tried and to counter your claim, I have yet to meet, or read, or hear of any Jews advocating killing all the Muslims but I have hear otherwise from Muslims for years...
sabiwabi at 06:19 PM JST - 15th April

skip,

As for any idea of such being tried, look at a few history books

Yes, the Bible mentions something about them being evicted from the region, or something like that.

I have yet to meet, or read, or hear of any Jews advocating killing all the Muslims...

You might want to start paying attention then. You've missed much of what has been going on for a long time.
adaydream at 02:11 AM JST - 16th April

Considering Carter is responsible for some of the billions of dollars Israel gets in aid from the United States

Those dollars are all spent a long time ago on weapons to kill Paletinians. It's the SBillions that have been given since then. Hell they just received $30,000,000,000.00 that george bush gave them that we need to worry about.
Helter_Skelter at 09:32 AM JST - 16th April

Carter also offered to relay Hamas’ views to Israel.

Hamas's views? That's easy. They want to carry on the Nazi tradition the Muslim Arabs helped establish during WWII of making all land Judenfrei. You can trace the roots of Hamas back to the Muslim Brotherhood and their collaboration with Nazi Germany. I would hope Carter would relay these views.
sabiwabi at 10:47 AM JST - 16th April

Helter, Jews get along fine in Muslim countries. Why do you keep writing that? Was it a joke?
kinniku at 11:11 AM JST - 16th April

Jews get along fine in Muslim countries. Why do you keep writing that? Was it a joke?

Yes, good question Sabiwabi. Why do you keep writing that Jews get along fine in Muslim countries? Is it a joke? Maybe it is that you have never actually visited a Muslim country or read a newspaper from these countries. However, considering you don't seem to think Hitler had such a big hate for the Jews, one can see how anything better than the Nazi's treatment would seem 'fine' to you.

As far as the bleating about extremists, both sides have them. My frustration comes from the lack of a loud and clear vocal peace movement among the Muslim community. I know they exist, but their voices are not raised clearly and cohesively. Before you attempt to claim that Israel does not have such a voice, let me give you examples: B'Tselem and Peace Now. Where are these same organizations in the Muslim community. No, I am not expecting there to be a Palestinian organization peace organization while they are under occupation, however where is the rest of the Muslim community. Do they really see Hamas' current stance as helpful?

Anyway, as I pointed out before, it is just because of Carter's recent "anti-Israeli" comments that he may be the only western public figure to be able to convince Hamas to take the serious steps needed to get on the road to a real peace of mutual existence of Israel and Palestinian states side-by-side.

In addition, hopefully, if Carter were to be successful, the peace obtained would be a true 'warm' peace as opposed to the 'cool' peace between Israel and its Jordanian and Egyptian neighbors.
Helter_Skelter at 01:11 PM JST - 16th April

Helter, Jews get along fine in Muslim countries.

LOL!
sabiwabi at 06:45 PM JST - 16th April

Helter,

Go ahead and LOL. More and more people are catching on. World public opinion is FINALLY shifting against Israel. And no, that is not antisemitism!

They might not realize it, but Carter is doing Israel a favor.
Helter_Skelter at 06:21 AM JST - 17th April

World public opinion is FINALLY shifting against Israel.

World opinion is FINALLY beginning to realize that Islam is a threat to the civilized world. That Israel is just another victim of Islamic violence and intolerance. But the world had better wake up soon or we'll be living dark ages once again.
sabiwabi at 09:53 AM JST - 17th April

That is indeed the impression the media has been trying to give us. Fortunately, people are wising up, and starting to realize what is really going on.
kinniku at 11:02 AM JST - 17th April

What is going on here is that certain people with obvious anti-Semitism are trying to convince us their view of the world is correct. While there can certainly be a great difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Israeli sentiment, it is obvious that on one should not take the words of a blatant anti-Semite seriously when it comes to their comments about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This is just as true of comments made by blantant anti-Muslims.

The only people who can be taken seriously are the ones who are willing to see both sides of the issue and who are sincere in their wish for the prosperity and happiness of both Israelis and Palestinians living peacefully side-by-side in their own countries.

In this regard, you do not make the grade.
sabiwabi at 11:11 AM JST - 18th April

Kinniku,

Oh my! So if a family barges into your home, kills your wife, rapes your daughter, destroys the garden you use to feed your family, and locks you into the basement, "the only people who can be taken seriously are the ones who are willing to see both sides of the issue and who are sincere in their wish for the prosperity and happiness of both" families "living peacefully side-by-side in their own countries"?

You have a complete lack of perspective and your attempts at appearing sincere are amazing. This is not a simple dispute between two groups, like two families fighting over where the fence should go.
kinniku at 05:21 PM JST - 18th April

My statement above stands. You want there to be continuous war. I want peace between these people. Your example is meaningless in this conflict and just encourages more of the same. This is a simple dispute between two groups. It is time to ignore the voices of extremism such as yours and take real steps towards peace.