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timorborder
Thank's for that Dickster, my mind is at ease (not). You have to remember that it was Dickster's former lackey (old Scooter) who ratted out a serving CIA officer (possibility acting as a fall-guy for his boss). As such, Dickster's credibility on anything related to the CIA is somewhat diminished.
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SimondB
Several points:
On the economic disaster the us now faces Cheney, in defending Bush says...."“I don’t think anybody saw it coming,”
Wrong. Many wiser minds then Bush (and I mean MANY) warned of major, major economic tsunamis on the way. Bush normally responded with dribble about the worlds strongest economy and threw platitudes about the american people and his faith in them (to correct his cock ups).
I also believe the phrase “I don’t think anybody saw it coming,”was used about a certain incident in 2001 which was well warned in advance - FBI reporting on Arabs only wanting to learn to fly, not take off or land, alarming warnings that AQ intended to attack within the us - but of course, despite having the worlds biggest inteligence agencey....“I don’t think anybody saw it coming (because most of the neo-cons were/are blind and deaf to anything they don't want to see or hear).
On torture, which now seems to be accepted as OK in the us....“I don’t have any reason to believe that anybody in the agency did anything illegal,” he said.
Of course not Dicky.... now what was the name of that mate of yours who got convicted. OK split hairs, he was not CIA. All he did was out a CIA agent whose huisband pointed out that you and bush were lying. Fair enough.
But this waterboarding thing, or a little dunk in the water as you would have it, how is it that the rest of the civilissed world sees it as torture and you dont? Don't tell me....“I don’t have any reason to believe that anybody in the agency did anything illegal,”
The vice president often laughs off talk that he played his role as second-in-command to Bush like a wizard, controlling the levers of the presidency from behind the scenes.
Of course. Bush was the strong decisive leader of america who decided that to hell with Cheney, I am not leaving until the end of My little Goat - it's an exciting story I'm sure you will agree.
Goodby Dick Varder. May you get your just deserts in the next world where you no doubt will be begging to be waterboarded because it is just too hot where you are. And you can say to your eternal host: I never saw this coming, nobody did.
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skipthesong
Thank's for that Dickster, my mind is at ease (not). You have to remember that it was Dickster's former lackey (old Scooter) who ratted out a serving CIA officer (possibility acting as a fall-guy for his boss). As such, Dickster's credibility on anything related to the CIA is somewhat diminished." very true, but "But this waterboarding thing, or a little dunk in the water as you would have it, how is it that the rest of the civilissed world sees it as torture and you dont?" First of all, almost every other major country in the world used torture during times of war on POW's (or captured), why does the US have to stand out? Torture was not invented by the US Torture is heavily used by the current enemies of the US and something I know for a fact, the Lefties God, Castro uses it to this day, and yet you all basically pray to him.
Cheney is what he is and his first name is appropriate.
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SimondB
Uhmmm, Shining Beacon on the Hill? Humanities last chance? Yearly round up of Human rights abuses around the world?
So what are you saying? They are lesser lifes that torture human beinings so we should we not? How about saying torture in any form is unacceptable to civilised communitties and our country will never torture humans....and now we ask, nay demand that you follow our lead? Because rightly or wrongly many in the world do follow your lead, so lead. It is a shame and a smear on your country when the VP of the last 8 years says that torture is OK. A shame and smear on your once great country.
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adaydream
Unless I hear dick cheney's name or george bush's name at war crimes trials or facing trials for treason, I hope I never ever hear their names again. < :-)
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timorborder
It is good to see that the Dickster is going to spend a lot of time fishing. If he was going to concentrate on shooting, I think a number of his chickhawk, sorry quaill hunting friends would be worried, especially those with law degrees.
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buggerlugs
nothing illegal?? And people are sureto believe this cause Cheney and bush are so trustworty and not really mass murderers!!
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Altria
How the hell would he know what went on?
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SushiSake3
"Cheney also said that Bush has no need to apologize for not foreseeing the economic crisis. “I don’t think he needs to apologize. I think what he needed to do is take bold, aggressive action and he has,” Cheney said. "I don’t think anybody saw it coming,” he said."
It's beyond belief that anyone out there might actually believe this. I remember reading back in 2004 - in an American newspaper - about the increasing risks of a housing industry implosion.
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cleo
Very apt imagery - almost makes me want to believe there is an afterlife and a hell. Religion can be a great comfort.
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skipthesong
simon, I never put those titles on my country. I never thought we were above anyone.
I am not saying "hey, this torture is cool", no. In fact, I wish we never even needed to use it. But when I see people chummying up to people who do it without any doubt, Castro (and I have relatives to prove what his croonies do), Iran, most Muslim countries, I have to think that it is the norm for now.
Show me a country that would without any other doubt not use torture as a means to extract info and them maybe I'll change my thoughts. Mind you, I say to extract info, if anyone is having fun doing it, they need to have it done to themselves - Abu Gurib Prison for example - that white trash chick should have had her photo taken in opposite roles.
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Sarge
"the first river he wants to fish is the South Fork of the Snake River"
What! Not the North Fork of the Alligator River?
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cleo
They could waterboard him in the river.
Moderator: Readers, that is enough with the torture suggestions, thank you.
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cleo
I'm sure they'd be more than happy to put up with the temporary inconvenience. It's only a dunking, after all! And while he was on the board he wouldn't be waving his canned huntin' gun around, so other wildlife (fat quail and old lawyers) could breathe easy.
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Taka313
The white house's whole argument seems to be, "we've done nothing wrong" until they get caught. Then...they change the rules of what "wrong" is to save their own behinds with zero regard to the fact that it puts waterboarding "on the table" as something that can legally be done to U.S. servicemembers.
The point being, the political careers and affluence of a few are far more important than the thousands of lives of our military personnel.
What a disgrace to the human race that thing is.
Taka
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Sarge
"Obama has said he wants all U.S. combat troops out of Iraq by the spring of 2010"
I thought he promised he would do that during the campaign. So, this might not happen?
taka313 - You should be thanking President Bush for choosing one of the finest vice presidents this country has ever had.
"Cheney will go down in history as
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Sarge
Whoops! Wasn't finished there...
"Cheney will go down in history as one of, perhaps the most influential vice presidents in U.S. history"
I wonder how Biden will do...
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cleo
But, but, but, Moddie, Dick says it isn't torture....
...entitled My Pet Chimp. And if he puts lots of pictures in, his friend Georgie Boy might possibly be able to read it.
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usaexpat
Sarge: influential maybe but so was tricky Dick Nixon. I would say Cheney will be remembered but not kindly.
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usaexpat
Has the CIA ever really had oversight, they would claim nothing they were involved in was illegal including Iran/Contra, the overthrow of Allende and all the other dirty deeds they've been involved in.
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USAFdude
Better than Cheney.
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Nessie
Chimps are not pets, Cleo, they're part of the family. The dysfunctional neo-con part, in this case.
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