China state media stepping-up anti-Western rhetoric

If China was able to develop to her state is because:

So much money from the West was invested

Many Chinese got their education in the West

Why is it that people with power and money still get their education in the West?

Is it that evil? Of course not.

As usual with dictatorship, such rethoric is to assert control onto the have not population by the have it all small club.

The fantasy world of a communist dictatorship is where the State Propaganda machine refers to heaven and hell, while taking the official position that neither exist. Well, if you are a dissident in the PRC, you certainly know that the latter exists, and hope that the former does as well.

All this illustrates is the insecurity of the Chinese leaders and how desperate they are to protect their interests and hang onto power.

I'm sure Abe's taking notes....

I think it is clear that Confucianism is a ticket to hell, or at least economic failure. I appreciate that Confucius had one or two good quotes in his life, but a real philosophy needs more than that to back it up. The Chinese have systematically silenced every dissenting voice since Confucius existed.

If the CCP are so sure of themselves, they should have no fear of democracy.

Westerners traditionally held that secular Western values were a ticket to hell - without faith in Jesus to cure our "original sin," often identified with something like pride, or self-love. Now that Jesus is far less popular and pride, relabeled "self-esteem" has become a right, rather than something to be ashamed of, I think that the Chinese may be on the money.

I think we should probably expect this as the enormous growth of the Chinese economy over the last few years begins to slow. It can't go on forever, and in leaner times politics tends to get nastier to "outsiders".

But I do find it hilarious that Beijing is talking about "Western values" as though we all believed the same things. And here I was just thinking about how the PR representative for my nation's President and the former mayor of my nation's largest city are in a petty, childish argument about whether or not the President truly "loves" the country. We don't even agree with each other a few miles down the road, but Beijing thinks all of us in pretty much an entire hemisphere share the same values?

"Killing myself laughing at the first sentence" This is why I read JT, this is why =D

@timtak The Chinese are "on" the money all right, so much so they give it out as a good luck offering. By ruthlessly eliminating all religions they are left only with the worship of wealth. And I'm an atheist myself!

Western values are a "ticket to hell," a newspaper published by China's Communist Party said in a recent editorial

My goodness. Did Mao come back to life? If it weren't for "Western values," where would your previously joke economy be? Does this mean that Chinese cinema will have to go back to making nothing but propaganda and training films? Will you quit drinking beer and wine? Will you soon be eschewing all decadent mod cons like air conditioning, clean water, electricity, non-human powered locomotion? These are all Western things.

"Over the last two years or so, the propaganda has become less refined. There's a big market for this kind of crude nationalism," said Willy Lam, a Chinese politics expert at Hong Kong's Chinese University.

Yes. Because it's always been so subtle and nuanced in the previous 60 years.

Unfortunately this is looking to be an increasing trend over the next few years, free society and democracies are getting smaller in number, partly because a lot of despots look to China's success as an alternative model to open capitalism.

At a time when the economic policies of the past few decades in the US and other countries have created massive and damaging wealth disparities, it's strange that a party which still calls itself communist doesn't make more of this in its tirades. I wonder why.

Chinese people studying their higher education , owning assets or immigration in western countries does not mean they were having a 'strange and contradictory' attitude over the west. Those background does not mean they were agree with western values. If you read early 20th century China history circa 1900s,back then Chinesr students mostly goto study overseas in Japan, Chinese revolution leader Dr Sun Yat San has spent years exile in Japan or you can say modern China was Chinesr people observed the success of Japanese modernization: The Meiji reform. Which given the idea to overthrow that Manchurian empire and established modern China 1912. Yet nothing constructive for Sino Japanese relations until the now. Because Nationalism of Chinese surpass everything in regardless at all cost.The Chinese Communists is walking the same nationalism path just like their precesscor the KMT in a madsive and ruthless way.The capitalism in present China does not mean they were about to adopt western political ideology and they never hidden this.

But, didn't Xi say that he himself intend to visit Britain?

Communist state media in China stepping-up anti-Western rhetoric

Now, that's a more realistic headline.

The Communist dictators in China have a whole lot to be worried about Hong Kong, the economy, crime, the internet, the people.

The more their people travel and see the Western nations and their freedoms, the more the people will want the same. The Communist are running on borrowed time and they know it.

Not even another Lei Feng can save them.

@elephant200

Because Nationalism of Chinese surpass everything in regardless at all cost.

That in itself is troubling. Nationalism is more important than peace and raising your kids? CCP is equivalent to the nation now?

The CCP will stay in power as long as economic growth stays on track and it can preserve China's unity. The CCP often points out to its people that countries like the US and UK were hardly democratic when achieving their economic take-off ( very limited voting rights ). Many Chinese I met in China parroted this line. The warnings about Ukraine plays to the second largest fear in China - disunity. These are the key issues the CCP is playing to. It will take a financial meltdown or severe internal unrest to shake the CCP, not a few hundred thousand rich students studying abroad from a country of 1.3 billion. Many of these students will be happy to take top jobs in the east without too much concern for anything or anyone else when and if they return.

"Despite their willingness to defend their nation and join in condemnations of its enemies — particularly arch-foe Japan — many Chinese are voting with their feet when it comes to their futures, with the West receiving the strongest endorsements."

"An estimated 274,000 Chinese are studying in the United States alone, with tens of thousands more in Australia, Britain and elsewhere."

First off, just because an overseas student studies in the US, doesn't mean they support Western ideals, it just means the colleges and or teachers are well regarded. Many international students come to the US for the universities then leave once they graduate to return to their countries to use what they learned to either help their homelands or to attack the US.

Secondly, who cares what China's state media says. Would you expect anything different? They have to write what they write or their paper is burned to the ground and the headlines just preach to the choir. What do people expect? Western media often attacks China, China's media fires shots back.

'Many international students come to the US for the universities then leave once they graduate to return to their countries to use what they learned to either help their homelands or to attack the US.'

The vast majority will help themselves without too much of a second thought for anyone or anything else. Exposure to western education will certainly reinforce that idea.

OK. West, return all manufacturing to your own countries or to actually friendly lands. Let the CCP isolate themselves with DPRK.

The paper tiger roars, seeing not the economic avalanche behind it.

The CCP often points out to its people that countries like the US and UK were hardly democratic when achieving their economic take-off ( very limited voting rights ).

They were hardly dictatorships, though. Universal (albeit white) male suffrage in the US occurred in the 1820s. Most of the industrialization happened after that. China likes that theory that their economic development depends on CCP rule. Most other people would insist on some evidence.

Many asians study in the west because they are sure to excel in what is called "superb" western education where everybody passes. A diploma from abroad is still considered special.

When are the Chinese going to start doing something to help Ukraine and the coalition that's trying to eradicate Islamic State?

China's rise could have been a great contribution to world culture. Too bad.

The newspaper pointed to turmoil in Ukraine and the Arab world to show how any adoption of Western models by non-Western countries “basically amounts to the copying of failure.”

“No matter how beautiful they appear on the surface, they are in fact a ticket to hell, and can only bring disaster to the Chinese nation,” the newspaper said.

It is true that being democratic does not guarantee being successful country. However, the fact for the matter is,most successful countries are from democratic. Just look at list of happiest country in the world. They are mostly from democratic country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/picturegalleries/10302485/The-worlds-happiest-countries.html?frame=2667866

Taiwan under democracy is way more successful than China having higher gdp per capita. China economy is large but it is only because of quantity of population. That's nothing special at all.

Xi Jinping, man, great new leader, [you think] you need to get rid of the Western values, industries you people copied and do another cultural and industrial revolution like your great predecessor Mao Tse Tung. Get rid of it all and start over. You will need some clever script writers though. Seriously however, how about showing you are a real leader who can be trusted and respected world wide? So far the future looks bleak. The only thing that will bring disaster to the Chinese nation is an authoritarian dictatorship as has been and still is in place in China today. It is beyond me how a nation can embrace, or should I say copy, surely not emulate, Western technology and foul-mouth it by even highly educated (?) individuals including the judiciary at the same time? Can't they see all the exaggerated OTT, insulting rhetoric make the Chinese look ridiculous?

17 of the 20 in the G20. Man what a terrible record.

Nothing new. Whenever there are domestic problems in China they ramp up the ant-Western and anti-Japanese propaganda. Now that the Chinese economy is slowing we will hear much more of it. As the Chinese economy slows even more no doubt we will hear it is all the fault of the West and Japan.

JoeBigsMAR. 03, 2015 - 12:08PM JST The Communist dictators in China . . .

There are no "communist dictators" in China. China ceased to be remotely communist in it's economic orientation about 1979. PRC system is now best described as authoritarian state capitalism. Calling anyone a communist today is just silly. It's like trying to scare children with a non-existent bogey man.

Some western values are not suitable for a society as large as China especially when we talk about democracy. We should not confuse freedom with democracy. China has been opening up and Chinese people now enjoy more freedom than in the past, more and more restrictions have been removed, so it is on the progressive path. You can imagine if certain country interferes and causes chaos, a breakup of a country as huge as China will lead a flood of Chinese people pouring to other countries causing troubles and strains to the whole world. It is better to let China leads its own path besides there is nothing wrong with China right now. We didn’t see China causing damages to other countries like what’s happening in the Middle East, we didn’t see China forming any military alliances, we didn’t see China committed political interference, and we didn’t see China setting up military bases in other country. We only know that China just wants to do business. So, we can save to say that China wants to be the “middle kingdom” where any country in the world can approach to do business without any conditions or prejudice. Don’t try to judge China or compare China to other democratic countries. China is unique. More than 500 million Chinese people travel the world in a year and the Westerners create numerous bad stories about them calling them uncivilized and ill-manner, but fail to mention that they bring prosperity to every corner of the world. Chinese people are flexible and adaptable and they send their kids to other countries to learn and advance, unlike the Westerners who are self-absolved and short-sighted thinking that China is suffering from the brain drain. In fact, Xi has encouraged Chinese people to send their kids aboard with the longer view that they will become a link or connection to the main land Chinese. If Chinese people are everywhere in the world, doing business would be much easier and some of them may even bring back what they learned to improve the country. So, western values if inappropriate for the society they are deserved to be criticized and rejected.

flowersMAR. 04, 2015 - 04:26AM JST Some western values are not suitable for a society as large as China especially when we talk about democracy. We should not confuse freedom with democracy.

The Chinese might since they have neither.

You can imagine if certain country interferes and causes chaos, a breakup of a country as huge as China will lead . . .

Perhaps not a break-up, but as a Chinese national you know that, like India, there really is no such thing as China other than as a political entity. People in the south of the country can't even converse with people from the north - essentially two different languages and completely different cultures. And then there is Tibet.

China needn't break-up but it might be more effective as a federate nation with much greater local autonomy. Then again, provincial officials, usually minority "Chinese" are so corrupt that many regions in the south and west would just soon be rid of Beijing and it's influences all together.

It is better to let China leads its own path besides there is nothing wrong with China right now.

Nope. Nothing wrong at all. Just massive amounts of corruption, next to no public accountability, pervasive pollution, no freedom of speech or political or social association. Shall I go on?

We didn't see China causing damages to other countries like whats happening in the Middle East, . .

Fair point. On the other hand, China has no, as in zero, friends in the world and are unlikely to ever have any.

we didn't see China committed political interference, and we didn't see China setting up military bases in other country.

Again, Tibet.

China is unique.

Japan is unique. France is unique. Canada is (somewhat) unique. Tanzania is unique. What's your point?

More than 500 million Chinese people travel the world in a year . . .

So, at any given time, nearly half the population is out of the country?

Chinese people are flexible and adaptable and they send their kids to other countries to learn and advance, unlike the Westerners who are self-absolved and short-sighted thinking that China is suffering from the brain drain.

They send their kids abroad because Chinese universities are, at best, second rate. Some of your perceived best and brightest will go home. That's simply a numbers game. But those that really want to thrive do everything they can to stay in Canada, the U.S., the U.K. or even Japan where there is economic stability, the rule of law and transparency and where success is measured primarily on your abilities rather than whether your father is a local "communist" official or sufficient bribes can be paid to the local "communist" official.

I agree with you that the Chinese, like the Russians, may not now or ever be ready for a more a democratic society. Both nation's histories militate against this.

we didn’t see China committed political interference

China's sole foreign policy is political interference: who is left in the world that can freely have the Dalai Lama visit or have diplomatic relations with Taiwan? Who is running a boycott against Japan? Who is saying the entire internet needs censorship? Or to put it another way: do anything possible to assist the non-democracies of the world so they feel they can hang on. 148 countries in the world that at least go through the democratic motions, but it is not right for China, huh? What, are the Chinese not smart enough? I don't think you have given it enough of a chance.

Jeff Huffman, “China needn't break-up but it might be more effective as a federate nation …” I wonder what happened to the Soviet Union. I can tell you this everybody will want to jump the boat in time of crisis so China will definitely break up without the authoritarian government. Democratic system had been tried before and failed as it’s just not suitable for China.

“Nope. Nothing wrong at all. Just massive amounts of corruption, next to no public accountability, pervasive pollution, no freedom of speech or political or social association. Shall I go on?” I must say this, so what? Every country has gone through this path. China is still developing but it took China only 3 decades to become the world largest economy in terms of PPP. So, in a few more decades China will be the most admired country in the world and the signs are already everywhere.

“Fair point. On the other hand, China has no, as in zero, friends in the world and are unlikely to ever have any.” Are you sure about this? Perhaps, you mean “allies,” China doesn’t believe in alliance as I told you before. It believes in “partnership” and “community” so it always treats all countries as equal to achieve a win-win outcome.

“Again, Tibet,” perhaps you don’t know Tibet is a part of China as agreed by the UN and all the western worlds.

China is unique in that it is the only country that has two conflicting political systems where it can reap the benefits of both worlds. It has the largest population in the world where it moved people to middle class in the shortest time frame unprecedented in the world. China has developed its own systems that are suitable for China and as we can see the systems are not bad at all.

“They send their kids abroad because Chinese universities are, at best, second rate.” It’s true the western universities are perceived to be better but only in terms of job prospects. Education systems in China are far ahead of the western education according to various international test scores. You will find that Chinese people are smart in that they will find a way to advance themselves.

“Where success is measured primarily on your abilities rather than whether your father is a local "communist" official or sufficient bribes can be paid to the local "communist" official.” Chinese call it “relationship,” and believe me in the western high society rich kids will always find a better job too.

You can find many negative things to say about China from your point of view, but there is one thing that everybody can agree on that is China holds the largest foreign reserve in the world, which says a lot about its success..

I don't think China has treated Japan as being in win-win partnership since WW1. So much for that theory. And as for having tried democracy, I think that was brought to an end by the CCP, a.k.a. "the disease of the heart".

Who need western values? Much better to celebrate a mass murderer by having his picture on your banknotes and a huge portrait of the swine overlooking the main square in your capital city. Let's celebrate the "values" of an unelected dictatorship instead.