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some14some
Dead man alive, CIA is defying the statements of former Pak President Musharraf and current President Zardari that Bin Laden is DEAD.
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DXXJP
Why bother the bush memorial war is still going.
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adaydream
You know one of many reasons that I disliked george bush was the caviliar attitude and actions concerning where was and the capture of Bin Laden.
The CIA seems to have had the same attitude. Supposedly they knew where he was in the Tora Bora mountains. Somewhere and sometime the CIA quit looking. These people are the best investigators and snoopers/poopers in the world and they can't find one man. Alive or dead. < :-)
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nandakandamanda
Even if he is dead, they will want to wheel his mummy out of the cave, or rope it up out of a hole in the ground like Saddam's. And then stomp on it and trash it...
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smithinjapan
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
If bush admittedly didn't give a toss, why should the CIA keep bringing it up in defiance of him :)
Anyway, Pakistan always looks kind of out of place as a 'staunch ally in the war on terror'. At least they're making efforts to get rid of the Taliban (after giving them safe haven and a section of the country).
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neverknow2
No! He's still alove. He just hasn't found an electronics store in Pakistan yet, that's why he hasn't released any videos in so long. Or maybe he is actually dead.
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smithinjapan
"...CIA is defying the statements of former Pak President Musharraf and current President Zardari that Bin Laden is DEAD"
The CIA doesn't seem to know it's head from a hole in the ground when it comes to 'mysterious' figures. I mean, how many times was Fidel Castro dead over the past few years? Kim Jong Il also died a couple of times.
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teleprompter
What does quoting Bush (out of context, with no links to the original) have to do with Bin Laden's whereabouts as of June 2009?
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WilliB
Bin Ladin Bin Shmadin. It does not matter either way. Total idiocy to focus on on particular jihadist leader.
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WilliB
DX:
Hate to break the news to you, but it is Obamas war now. He was enthusiastic about it, and he just sent more Western troops into the Afghanistan mountains as jihadi fodder.
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LFRAgain
Ah, yes; the Right's legendary propensity for reinvention. So, let's recap. According to you, if American troops are marching across Iraq, it's a justified "Liberation." But if they're in Afghanistan, fighting the a-holes who harbored the man who brought down the Twin Towers, the troops are "jihadi fodder." Right.
And pathetic. Your political convictions are about as unyielding as wet pasta.
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WilliB
LFRA:
I did not say anything of the sort. You are attacking your own strawman.
The fact is that Obama´s campaign slogan was from the beginning that the Iraq invasion was wrong and the Afghanistan invasion right. He said was going to send more troops to Afghanistan, and is doing that now. Twist it any way you like, this is Obamas war now, and he is sending more troops into this mess.
Obama also prior to the election said that he was willing to bomb Pakistan unlaterally, so you really have something to answer for.
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teleprompter
Absolutely. How can anyone forget the dressing down Obama got from McCain on that one.
From the debate last year:
McCain: I'm not prepared at this time to cut off aid to Pakistan. So I'm not prepared to threaten it, as Senator Obama apparently wants to do, as he has said that he would announce military strikes into Pakistan.
We've got to get the support of the people of -- of Pakistan. He said that he would launch military strikes into Pakistan.
Now, you don't do that. You don't say that out loud. If you have to do things, you have to do things, and you work with the Pakistani government.
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goodDonkey
I have to admit that I thought he was dead. There had been no video of him for a long time. I was wrong. It just goes to show that predictions are opinions sometimes based on facts and not facts in and of themselves.
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smithinjapan
Actually, all you have to do is call Iraq a "fool's errand" and say it was unjustified or that the invasion was illegal and oddly enough some on here will jump RIGHT back to when GWB was president and go on about how they 'rid the world of an evil dictator', and some will even still insist there were WMDs (again, the CIA sure was on the ball there, weren't they?). And then not two seconds later at least one poster on here will say, "It's Obama's war now".
The long and short of it is this: they are tired of defending a war they knew was utterly wrong, and still is. As soon as Obama became president, they could instantly wash their hands of the whole affair and say things like, "bush is no longer president, it's Obama's problem (so don't talk about the past!)", or, "This is all Obama's fault!", et cetera.
Likewise we are seeing some of it again here with Bin Laden. You comment on how bush didn't care about the man, so why is it Obama's fault, and you get: "that's off topic!", or, "this is Obama's war now".
Anyway, it would be nice if the CIA could limit their 'we know he's here' (when pointing to a map of the ME) to when they narrow down the location to a very small area (and Pakistan is not).
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SushiSake3
smith - "Anyway, it would be nice if the CIA could limit their 'we know he's here' (when pointing to a map of the ME)"
lol! :-) It's almost like saying, "Look at the Japanese guy with the black hair" when pointing to the million-odd people crossing in front of Shibuya station. :-)
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smithinjapan
teleprompter: "Absolutely. How can anyone forget the dressing down Obama got from McCain on that one."
Forget what? sorry... don't remember that. I DO remember a few times McCain got caught looking like a deer in headlights, and an a$$ in general, but thanks for reminding us of what 'no one can forget'. :)
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JoeBigs
Whaaaat? George W Bush is that you? What the hell kind of strategy is that. You believe that we should not go after our A#1 enemy and focus our efforts on the low level putzes?
So you want to give this guys a pass for all the deaths he caused? WTFO?
Yeah and this President appears to be after Bin Ladin rather than trying to figure out what is the best way to sink a 10 foot put...
I will never understand the far rights idea on how to defeat an enemy. Instead of destroying it's leadership you guys would rather play golf...
When the far right was in power Pakistan was kissing terrorist behinds, after Obama came to office they are fighting the terrorist.
Hmmmm could it be because they fear what he said?LOL
You guys just do not know how to win a war do you....Takes a Democrat to take care of business!LOL
Man you far right wingers know how to start one, but do not have a clue how to finish it.....LOL
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WilliB
JoeBigs:
Oh my, when did this miraculous thing happen? Pakistan "fighting the terrorists?" You mean the same guys who were just granted Shariah law in Swat province and who are now running rampant in Pakistans large cities? That naivite would be funny if it wasn´t so sad.
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smithinjapan
WilliB: "And if you can dig up a quote where I said the Iraq invasion was a good idea"
I took a quick look at your posts (about 100 or so) and didn't see you say, verbatim, under this handle, that 'Iraq was a good idea'. One thing I DID notice is that there was not a SINGLE post, not one, that didn't have 'Islam' or 'muslim' (or 'moslem') or 'jihad', or all of them, in it. Oh, and more than half of the threads were not the least bit related to Islam -- like the church shooting of the abortion doctor or the white supremacist threads.
Anyway, you really should tone down the anti-Islam hate speak... it completely undermines all your arguments, particular in the above unrelated threads.
About this one, though... Pakistan is indeed fighting the terrorists, or did you miss the threads about them driving them out of the Swat valley? JoeBigs is bang on... Pakistan is finally starting to try to get rid of them after offering them safe haven.
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WilliB
smith:
I have always said that Bush`s idea of turning Iraq into a modern democracy by simply removing Saddam was totally naive, and have been proven right. Stop making up things.
You can not blank out islam from the problem with jihad. It is precisely because Western governments (including both Bush and Obama) are trying to do that, that they are are failing so miserably in places like the Middle East, Iran, etc.
You are demonstrating you naivitee. Shariah control will expand in Pakistan, no matter how much aid your gullible government hands over to Pakistan. Wait and see.
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smithinjapan
WilliB: "You can not blank out islam from the problem with jihad. It is precisely because Western governments (including both Bush and Obama) are trying to do that, that they are are failing so miserably in places like the Middle East, Iran, etc." (in response to my comment that 'not a single post didn't have 'Islam', even posts about completely different topics)
So you admit you cannot post without mentioning Islam or Muslims, even when it's about a guy who shoots an abortion doctor in a church, or a white supremacist kills a security guard. You have proven us all right, thank you. You can 'blank out' both Islam AND jihad from unrelated posts, my friend. May be a newsflash to you, but that would be you ONLY.
"You are demonstrating you naivitee. Shariah control will expand in Pakistan, no matter how much aid your gullible government hands over to Pakistan. Wait and see."
JoeBigs point was that Pakistan is now taking action where they weren't before. You said he was wrong. He is right, and you haven't countered that despite saying simply 'you're wrong' and then proving the contrary.
"I have always said that Bush`s idea of turning Iraq into a modern democracy by simply removing Saddam was totally naive"
While I never saw you say verbatim it was a 'good idea', I've also never seen what said you've 'always said', but go ahead and prove us wrong. Should be easy to dig up your own posts, WilliB.
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smithinjapan
WilliB: "You can not blank out islam from the problem with jihad."
Just a quick good night to let you know that Islam is not the answer to every thought a person might have. Try focussing on something else for a change. My point is that you have ranted and raved under this handle for more than a year as to how Islam is the root of all evil, but in reality your thinking is more or less the exact same hate that fuels that which you claim to be against. There's no difference except that your 'jihad' is against Islam, and for evidently no reason beyond simple hatred (mostly of the unknown).
"Bin Ladin Bin Shmadin. It does not matter either way. Total idiocy to focus on on particular jihadist leader"
Sorry, but unlike your former president, I think finding Bin Laden matters a LOT and is not idiotic in the least. If the CIA could stop trying to simply remind people that despite its many failures in terms of intelligence it's still looking for the guy, that would be nice (ie. report to us when you can narrow it down further), but hey.
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WilliB
Smith:
I should know better than to waste time responding, but here goes...
And nobody said that. However, islam is the foundation of the islamic jihaad against the rest of the world. To see that should not be rocket science, either.
LOL! And what do you want to do with him if you find him? Read him his Miranda rights? And then? In a perverse way I hope that the Obama government should get so lucky and actually find him. Be careful what you wish for.
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SuperLib
It's just so odd to watch people attack Obama's policies when those people supported the same policies under Bush, and on the flip side it's just so odd to watch people support Obama's policies when they hated them under Bush.
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SuperLib
Replace "Islam" with "Bush" in all of his posts then read the same posts for 8 years. Then you might get some kind of idea what it was like listening to you guys....and still some don't show any signs of letting up even tho he's gone.
See what I mean?
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