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Sanders was too easy on Clinton over her e-mail scandal. It is relevant and Sanders should have challenged Clinton more on it instead of saying, "We don't care about your damn e-mails!"

Hillary certainly wouldn't have let Bernie off the hook so easily had the shoe been on the other foot.

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Bernie has much more class and respect than Hillary could only wish to have.

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“I will take Bernie Sanders over Donald Trump or Ted Cruz any time, so let’s keep our eye over what’s at stake in this election.”

Bingo.

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I would NEVER vote for a socialist or a woman that has trouble credibility and honesty. The ONLY thing I give Sanders credit for is being a decent and honest politician, but as far as his policies are concerned, not in a million years, even he knows that half of what he says and stands for would NEVER pass through congress or implemented.

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Black SabbathAPR. 08, 2016 - 08:52AM JST “I will take Bernie Sanders over Donald Trump or Ted Cruz any time,

Yes, Bernie's idea of free college education. Where is the $70 billion dollar coming from?

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Yes, Bernie's idea of free college education. Where is the $70 billion dollar coming from?

This is sadly something that liberals and Democrats never really tried to explain to us.

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a woman that has trouble credibility and honesty.

Something tells me that the key word for you is "woman," because she's at least as credible and honest as the men on your side if not more so.

even he knows that half of what he says and stands for would NEVER pass through congress or implemented.

Sanders has come out and said that if you ask for a whole loaf of bread, you might get half in the end. If you start by asking for half, you end up with crumbs.

Where is the $70 billion dollar coming from?

The Panama Papers prove that there are billions in taxable finances hidden in offshore accounts, and we all know that Panama isn't the only haven that exists. That would be a good start.

Even Sanders knows his policies aren't going to happen over night, but you have to get the ball rolling at some point.

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Sanders says closing bank that donate too much to Hillary. He has plans to close industries in USA to give college money. Heidi now shifting to Marxism. Have you guys read Books by Marx?

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Sanders says closing bank that donate too much to Hillary.

He wants to break up the banks that are bigger now than they were when they were to big to fail during the financial crisis. They definitely give a lot of money to Hillary, but that's not the reason Sanders wants to break them up.

Have you guys read Books by Marx?

Have you heard of the New Deal? That would be a more honest comparison of what Sanders is proposing.

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The DNC insane asylum's uber liberals are now feeding on each other. As an undecided independent voter, I am loving this. . . .

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Sanders wants equal paycheck for everyone. Higher minimum wages

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MrBumAPR. 08, 2016 - 09:42AM JST "a woman that has trouble credibility and honesty."

Something tells me that the key word for you is "woman," because she's at least as credible and honest as the men on your side if not more so.

Allow me to answer for bass.....Hillary Clinton is a proven liar! The key words are 'credibility' and 'honest'. Most readers are more intelligent than to fall for labelling the man a sexist. And I'll agree, I could never vote for a dishonest candidate or a dreamer with adding to the debt $79b for free. He wants also to increase the corporate tax even higher than the highest in the world exporting more US jobs. Look into the Panama Papers, how many reside in USA?

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My guess is Clinton and Trump Will win NY

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she took a quick trip on the New York City subway

Heh, riding the subway surrounded by bodyguards just like the average Joe. Memo to Mrs. Bill Clinton: Not everybody rides a NY subway with a Secret Service protection detail in the middle of the day. Until she does it alone at 2 a.m., she's a pandering carpetbagger.

This photo op/publicity stunt is as believable as Dukakis was in a tank. . . .

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Yes, it's an attempt to "appear" in touch with the common people. The realty is Hillary herself bragged that she has not driven a car in years! And to answer the liber-drones, the alternative was not public transportation.

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Something tells me that the key word for you is "woman," because she's at least as credible and honest as the men on your side if not more so.

Trying to play the gender card? Every poll, every single one of them shows that Hillary is perceived as THE MOST dishonest politician out there. So I would NEVER vote for anyone with her resume to lead this country. Honesty has never been something the Clinton's relish, especially Hillary.

Sanders has come out and said that if you ask for a whole loaf of bread, you might get half in the end. If you start by asking for half, you end up with crumbs.

Well, there will be nothing but crumbs to scoop up, it will never happen. Congress would never allow it.

The Panama Papers prove that there are billions in taxable finances hidden in offshore accounts, and we all know that Panama isn't the only haven that exists. That would be a good start.

...and there are other places where the affluent can move their money which many of them are already doing and good on them and that gives them the incentives to be more careful next time around.

Even Sanders knows his policies aren't going to happen over night, but you have to get the ball rolling at some point.

That would be like saying, if Trump is president, he will be able to deport 11 million people. Again, it will never happen.

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MarkG,

Allow me to answer for bass.....Hillary Clinton is a proven liar! The key words are 'credibility' and 'honest'. Most readers are more intelligent than to fall for labelling the man a sexist.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's probably not an overt sexist, but it's really easy for anyone who grows up in a male-dominated society (i.e., almost everywhere in the world) to fall into the trap of judging women more harshly. If you go out of your way to look at objective facts though, you'd see that she lies about as much as any politician. And if you're really honest to yourself, Trump takes the cake…

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ted-cruz/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/bernie-s/

Look into the Panama Papers, how many reside in USA?

You really think Panama is the only tax haven and not a single American is involved? Come on now...

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So this is what the presidential campaign inside the democrat cocoon has devolved into, a subway ridin' contest? "Look, see, members of the unwashed masses!! We are just like you. We even ride the subway." They are so insulting to their constituents.

I almost feel sorry for U.S. liberals as they will probably have to rally behind a person who needs to practice at being a 'real' person. . . .

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Wow, the trolls are active today.

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As an undecided independent voter, I am loving this. . . .

Oh, nice one, Tex! If you do not see how you gave yourself away with that sentence... well, there's always the Brooklyn Bridge. Said it before and I'll say it again: The Dem contest is a clash of shades - and healthy, in fact, for all facets of the party, while that of the GOP is existential and destructive no matter which side prevails.

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Clinton is getting bi***y again, internal polling must be bad if she's desperate to hang on to NY

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“I don’t believe that she is qualified if she is, through her super PAC, taking tens of millions of dollars in special-interest funds,” -- article

“Well, I think he hadn’t done his homework, and he’d been talking for more than a year about doing things that he obviously hadn’t really studied or understood, and that does raise a lot of questions.” -- article

As a non-partisan, independent undecided voter, both Mrs. Bill Clinton and Sen. Sanders are correct as to which democrat is best qualified to lead my country. . .

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As a non-partisan, independent undecided voter, both Mrs. Bill Clinton and Sen. Sanders are correct as to which democrat is best qualified to lead my country

Those quotes can be used to accurately describe Ted Cruz and Donald Trump respectively. I guess a non-partisan, independent undecided voter like yourself has no choice but to go Green. Lucky for you, Jill Stein would actually make a fine president.

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"Bernie has much more class and respect than Hillary could only wish to have."

If class and respect are important issues for you, Trump and Cruz must turn your stomach. This pair could set off an evacuation alert in a sewer.

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Trump and Cruz have less class than an elementary school drop out.

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So many American voters are fed up with "politics as usual." These days, "political suicide" equates to standing up for issues that wealthy donors oppose; voters be damned.

For example, Mrs. Bill Clinton's vote in favor of the war in Iraq: There were many of us Americans who were opposed to the invasion of Iraq. However, the corporations and ultra wealthy (read that, unimaginable profits to be made from war) wanted the U.S. to invade Iraq. Mrs. Clinton has many known ties to corporations and individuals who made huge profits from the Iraq debacle.

If she had voted against the invasion of Iraq, she probably would have lost donations from people and corporations that profit from war. Losing these large financial contributions can make it much more difficult to win future elections. This, in and of itself, proves that our system of selecting leaders to run our nation is horribly corrupt.

The simple fact that Sen. Sanders has been able to finance a successful national campaign for the U.S. presidency (winning seven of the past eight state caucuses and primaries against the democrat's pro-Iraq war candidate) while strongly opposing the "policies" advocated by the wealthiest people on earth, demonstrates that Americans still have the ability to elect politicians who choose our interests over the interests of corporations and the uber wealthy. . . .

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If she had voted against the invasion of Iraq, she probably would have lost donations from people and corporations that profit from war. Losing these large financial contributions can make it much more difficult to win future elections. This, in and of itself, proves that our system of selecting leaders to run our nation is horribly corrupt.

BINGO!

A Clinton presidency would be a clear continuation of one the worst presidents in our time and a continuation of the same Washingtom policies that the people are fighting against. A ve for Hillay is a vote to go back and not forward and since she voted for the Iraq war, according to Dems and even Sanders, she's really not qualified to be president.

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"A Clinton presidency would be a clear continuation of one the worst presidents in our time"

Not according to the views of Americans. George W Bush and Richard Nixon are bottom of the barrel.

I asked you to give me the names of the large number of non-partisan historians who argue that Bush wasn't the second worst post-war president. You refuse to do it.

I can only assume that your historians are Beck, Coulter and Hannity.

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For example, Mrs. Bill Clinton's vote in favor of the war in Iraq

Right. And her vote for TARP. And for the ACA, originally a GOP plan. When you're down to criticizing a candidate for supporting proposals that your own party originated, you're scraping the barrel of desperation.

(By the way, whatever happened to that "eradicate the ACA root and branch" meme so popular until not so long ago? Opposition seems to have grown as scarce as GOP alternatives.)

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"A Clinton presidency would be a clear continuation of one the worst presidents in our time"

Not according to the views of Americans. George W Bush and Richard Nixon are bottom of the barrel.

That depends on who you ask. In hindsight, minus the war, Bush wasn't that bad, some things he could have done better, but until the housing crash that was caused by Cox who admitted and 2 Dems Frank and Dodd who kept making excuses after excuses it wasn't their fault (as to why libs can't just admit when they screw up is so beyond me) we didn't have the racial division, 45 million people on food stamps, also you have to take into consideration, a lot of people that are polled, don't know a lot about politics, so when they are asked a question, which president was good or bad, you get simple answers, but again, that factor is left out, so if you go by that, it's not as clear cut as most libs love to make it out to be.

I asked you to give me the names of the large number of non-partisan historians who argue that Bush wasn't the second worst post-war president. You refuse to do it.

No, I said, just Google it. I did.

I can only assume that your historians are Beck, Coulter and Hannity.

I don't have time to watch TV, so I really wouldn't know. Anyway, since the jury is out still, we just won't know yet as to what the legacy of Bush is domestically, as far as foreign policy is concerned that is up to serious debate and the same will go for Obama, but domestically it's a lot worse for him and it has nothing to do with people liking him or not. Jimmy Carter is a nice man, a gentleman, but that doesn't mean he was a good president, the same goes for Bush in this case being bad or Obama being good.

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@Laguna,

So, you support a democrat who, through her support of the Invasion of Iraq, has the blood of thousands of military personnel and millions of Iraqi's on her hands.

Gotcha.. . . .

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"That depends on who you ask"

The American people. The polls which put Nixon and Bush at the bottom of the pile asked the American people.

I tried a Google search but I'm not sure who the non-partisan historians you are talking about are. As I mentioned, I'm not an elite journalist like you and I don't have good knowledge of these things. You may even move in these kind of circles but I certainly don't.

Can't you just do me the favour of telling me who these scholars are? Are they Beck, Coulter and Hannity? As you refuse to name your scholars, I can only assume these are the people you are talking about.

Is it so difficult to just type a few names?

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So, you support a democrat who, through her support of the Invasion of Iraq, has the blood of thousands of military personnel and millions of Iraqi's on her hands.

I also support a Democrat who did not. You may have been too young in 2001 to remember now the intense pressure put on those resisting the war - Why do you hate America? - but I won't hold that against you. Though you can read about it in history books, the full Orwellian scope of the pressure is difficult for those who were too young (or not paying attention) to imagine. Clinton made a horrible mistake, as did many other Dems at the time; Sanders got it right. They've both got strengths and weaknesses, as they would both admit from their long service in government.

The GOP choices? They should be modest, what with much to be modest about, but both are arrogant braggarts seemingly unable to learn from their mistakes.

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Hillary: "Well, I think he hadn’t done his homework"

Sanders has done his homework.

"Yes, Bernie's idea of free college education. Where is the $70 billion dollar coming from?"

"This is sadly something that liberals and Democrats never really tried to explain to us."

It's all spelled out on Sander's website, as are all his policies.

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If Bernie cared at all about the Democratic Party, he would stand aside and focus on getting Democrats elected down the ballot. We've got a real chance this election to break the conservative logjam that held the country back since 2010. The way things are going, we might get close to 60 senators if everyone would work together.

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Sanders must be doing his homework now to argue against Hillary. How may children are there in USA? How much Harvard charge. a year? no, I am going to Calf. How much UCLA? Is it true nutrition in Calf? What is fee? Do l have to use fee as college cost for Calf kids? I'm doing homework. I now know different state has different college system and costs. I forgot dorm cost.

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I tried a Google search but I'm not sure who the non-partisan historians you are talking about are. As I mentioned, I'm not an elite journalist like you and I don't have good knowledge of these things. You may even move in these kind of circles but I certainly don't.

Try and search Yahoo or Excite.

Can't you just do me the favour of telling me who these scholars are? Are they Beck, Coulter and Hannity? As you refuse to name your scholars, I can only assume these are the people you are talking about.

As I said, I don't have time to watch these people you just named, so I wouldn't have a clue.

Is it so difficult to just type a few names?

No, not at all.

So, you support a democrat who, through her support of the Invasion of Iraq, has the blood of thousands of military personnel and millions of Iraqi's on her hands.

But Dems don't remember that, do they? Selective memory perhaps.

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Both Clinton and Sanders have WAAAAY too much baggage and the Border Patrol Union, which is huge, is endorsing Trump.

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"If Bernie cared at all about the Democratic Party, he would stand aside and focus on getting Democrats elected down the ballot."

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting, Hillary is the annointed one, even though she has an FBI indictment over her security breaching emails hanging over her head, plus she made the gargantuan mistake of voting for the Iraq war, and she's as corrupt as politicians come.

Yeah, Sanders, who still has a decent chance of securing enough delegates for the nomination, should just stand aside, lol.

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Sanders is now copying GOP candidates ' attitudes. He wants to have free media exposure? Appealing to young people are fine but minority people will be voters.

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What do you mean, "minority people will be voters"? Whites are still the majority. And they made the US wealthy, not minorities.

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Minority people are voters, too. Reminding Sanders. Hillary did not forget Asian American Society in So Nevada and had Dinner party and people who decline to go, casino (Republican owner) paid. FBI checked inside of cars and trunks before we entered to floor..That was last year.

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Sanders made a fatal mistake when he didnt use Hillary e-mail scandal nor her failure about Benghazi(killing former American ambassador to Libya),he also failed-up till now-to make full function of big support he got from young generation,liberals,and universities students.On the other hand Hillary as well experienced knows very well how to use every single point on her favor.I still believe Sanders still have a good chance,lots dont like Hillary,but they are not sure Sanders can stand up and defeat Republican nominee,how to convince voters,he can really do it,thats is the question he has to answer,before it is too late.

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As an undecided independent voter

You don't need to tell us. There are two groups here, Democrats and independent something-or-others. It's usually easy to spot the difference.

No Republicans, tho. That tag just has too much baggage.

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Why would minority voters be any different than white? Please tell me since I am half-Japanese and had the same opportunities as other people - and some full Asians had it better. They didn't have to work as hard.

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New news. Sanders released a statement. Vatican invited him to meet Pope.

Sanders will go to. Rome and give a speech before NY caucus voting.
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You don't need to tell us. There are two groups here, Democrats and independent something-or-others. It's usually easy to spot the difference.

No Republicans, tho. That tag just has too much baggage.

You're just debating with people here on JT, believe me, I know many, many people that WILL tell you to your face, I'm a Republican, but unlike Democrats that follow in lock step. The GOP isn't a monolithic group or to put it differently, conservatives.

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Trump and Cruz are working hard to win NY but I think Trump will win majority. Clinton I wonder Jewish and none religious or protestants will support her this time again.

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