Clinton: U.S. stands by Iraqis, withdrawal on track
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Sarge
Hillary: "Iraq on right track, despite 159 deaths in two days of bombings"
Hillary's sounding like Bush, heh heh.
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WilliB
Hillary is putting the proverbial lipstick on a pig.
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SushiSake3
"Clinton says Iraq on right track" - Yes, leaving.
That's the right track.
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Sarge
SushiSake3 - Iraq's leaving?
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Wolfpack
I will 'suspend disbelief' on anything Clinton says about Iraq.
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Badsey
Obama originally pledged we would be out of Iraq in 60 days.
How much longer before we start invading Africa and go after their resources?
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WilliB
AlffromWapping:
No you wouldn´t! But you wouldn´t have Western troops embroiled in the middle of all the insanity, wasting Western lives and resources for nothing. THAT is the difference.
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grafton
If this is what Clinton thinks is the right tract I would hate to see what she thinks is the wrong one. This is political waffle that doesn’t mean anything, Muslims are killing each other because Sadam Hussein is not there to keep the lid on things, he wasn’t at all politically correct in the way he went about controlling the death wish savages. By the way in case nobody as noticed Alf has a multiple personality disorder & delusions of being an old British TV actor. So please be kind to him, as another old British actor used to say, it is cruel to mock the afflicted. Granted that might also be said of the wonderfully confused & confusing Ms. Clinton too.
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AlffromWapping
All them usual USA apologists are rearing their heads and denying the truth that the Mid East bloodbath is caused by America and their co-horts Israel.
Strewth, is Clinton a simpleton and that? How can Iraq be on the right track with over 100,000 deaths and a growing insurgency.
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grafton
Alf,
“How can Iraq be on the right track with over 100,000 deaths and a growing insurgency.”
Most of these deaths are Muslim on Muslim, how do you blame the US for that? Or are you a Millwall supporter?
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TheQuestion
We all knew this was going to happen. You can't have a speedy withdrawl without a sizeable body count and you can't have a stable government without a military to maintain it. Nobody wins which means everybody loses.
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SushiSake3
The Republican plan here is to keep U.S. forces engaged in Iraq until a date they have no idea of, funded by money borrowed from foreign governments all so that the U.S. "doesn't look weak."
Meanwhile more Americans Iraqis continue to die.
The Obama/Democrat plan, however, is to pull U.S. forces out and concentrate energies, resources and money on America.
The Republicans appear so blinded by the notion of 'completing the mission' that they can't see a good thing sitting right in front of them.
Go figure.
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teleprompter
"Willing suspension of disbelief"
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teleprompter
Republicans in America are out of power. If you think the ones here - in cyberspace - have any sway, or even a plan for that matter, you really need help.
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SushiSake3
Teleprompter - "If you think the ones here - in cyberspace - have any sway, or even a plan for that matter, you really need help."
You're right. I do need help. Help to stop laughing so much at Republicans who still think they are relevant.
Thanks to George Bush and the neocons who destroyed the GOP brand incredibly effectively, Republicans and Conservatives are now playing an entirely new role as background music in empty elevators.
No one is listening. :-)
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Midnightpromise
The headline was right on....... And once US troops are out of Iraq, we can have Killing Fields redeaux.... But no one has ever accused the Democratic party of seeing past their own self interests can we? Gonna be a very interesting four years.....
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buddha4brains
Ah the pulsing of the Bush/Cheney Legacy: more blood, more death, more hatred. Do you stay and bleed more or do you leave and let the others bleed? There no longer remains an honourable end to this war.
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SushiSake3
Midnightpromise - "But no one has ever accused the Democratic party of seeing past their own self interests can we?"
Why is pulling America pulling out of a failed, extremely costly war to focus energy, money and resources on America in the Democrat's "self interest"??
It's in America's interests, unless you admit America only went into Iraq to grab oil.
It's way past time for the U.S. to get out, Americans know this and voted en masse to support Obama's plan to get them out.
The only true measure of failure in this war would be to continue the Republican strategy - to keep U.S. forces engaged in Iraq until a date they have no idea of, funded by money borrowed from foreign governments all so that the U.S. "doesn't look weak."
Which by every measure is a recipe for failure.
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teleprompter
But it's Obama who won't pull the troops.
Obama.
Barack Obama.
Not George Bush.
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SushiSake3
teleprompter - he's planning to pare numbers to 50,000 and send thousands to Afghanistan.
Where they all should have gone in the first place.
Except people like yourself voted Bush in the second time and let him continue his reign of failure.
Aren't you partly to blame?
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SushiSake3
Telepromptor - so you and other Republicans/conservatives are blameless for the disaster in Iraq?
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teleprompter
Did I?
Moderator: Stay on topic please.
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LIBERTAS
"The invasion proceeded in a “responsible and careful way,” she said. We've killed almost 1.4 million of you. We've rendered your economy, your infrastructure useless. We've poisoned your land with unexploded cluster bombs and DU. Your academics and medics have fled. We've handed over most of the power to Al Sadr, and made Al maliki the puppet we control from Tel Aviv. Now that we've taken almost everything, we'll help you a bit if you let us pipe your oil to Haifa, below market prices. Yup, we'll stand by you 100%, and take our troops out to let you fend for yourself. That's the free-market American way! Oh, by the way, "Good Luck!"
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VOR
As conditions turn particularly ugly in Iraq, any reasonable person has to question the effect the birdbrained Obama troop pullout announcement has had on the current situation.
The Iraqis have reason to be damn scared as the insurgency knows all it has to do for the next few months is kill 50 people here,, 50 people there to make it look like America is retreating as they pull out.
Bush was a moron, Obama is an even bigger idiot. The difference, is at least the Iraqi people had a chance under Bush.
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Betzee
Bush was a moron, Obama is an even bigger idiot. The difference, is at least the Iraqi people had a chance under Bush.
GWB had just shy of six years to make things right in Iraq. That's a pretty long time considering the war was advertised as a undertaking requiring between "six weeks to six months." Are the tea baggers willing to pay higher taxes to support an open-ended occupation? And how will we know when wer can leave? If the surge worked, as many of its backers claim, why can't we go?
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Sarge
"the war was advertised as ( an ) undertaking requiring between six weeks to six months"
Actually, it took a little more than three weeks to oust the dictatorship. It's not our fault that, unlike the Germans and the Japanese, the Iraqis couldn't get with the program and help to rebuild their country instead of tearing it apart. Admittedly, there have been outsiders involved with causing trouble there...
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SushiSake3
Sarge - "It's not our fault.."
You see, that's a big part of the problem - if you're a Republican/Conservative, nothing's your fault.
Ever.
It's always The Other Guy.
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SushiSake3
Sarge, Betzee has a very good point - you and Sailwind kept saying the Surge worked.
If that's the case, why hasn't America already left???
Could it be because the Surge didn't work???
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SuperLib
SushiCount:
Republicans: 2
GOP: 1
Bush: 2
Borrowing Money: 2
They might be background music on elevators to everyone else, but they're still your #1 obsession. :)
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teleprompter
It didn't? Who did we lose to? Who, exactly, has won in Iraq?
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