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Laguna
“When you’re too tired you’re not on you’re ‘A game,’” the exhausted throng of reporters mistyped.
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Serrano
Even if he does get the Republican nomination, he's going to get his ass whooped by Obama.
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TorafusuTorasan
Is Cain actually a serious candidate compared to successful fundraisers like Romney (nevermind Obama)?
He's never been elected to any public office, and he hasn't even worked in the pizza industry in about 15 years.
From what little news I read, he appears to be a sharp, confident speaker and promoter of his book(s).
But how many times is Karl Rove going to use his FOX appearances to criticize Cain as gaffe prone before GOPers lose interest in nominating him?
Now he's pulling a Perry by reducing campaign appearances and using phrases like "too tired" when he should be ramping it up to show he wants to compete in the same league as Romney, not get left behind like Bachmann.
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sailwind
Count me as being on-board the Cain Train.
Article could use a little actual research though.
He was in Iowa last Saturday 23 Oct and he was in New Hampshire 13 Oct giving speeches.
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Molenir
lol, I hope you remember your comment next January when the Obamas are moving out of the White House.
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Serrano
"He's human and that's just fine"
As opposed to The One.
Molenir - Never have I ever hoped more that I am wrong as heck!
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yabits
Yeah, Phil, you're going to have a lot to like there. Just about everything that comes out of the motivational speaker's mouth has to be apologized for or rationalized away with lame excuses.
I didn't think anyone could ever match the sheer, shameless stupidity of George W., but you've got to hand it to the right-wing teabag-partiers for finding folks who can in their current crop of candidates.
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Taka313
It's funny to see people now so excited about Herman Cain, whose never held a political office. Just 3 years ago, these same people were whining that President Obama didn't have enough political experience.
Pretty unbelievable isn't it?
Taka
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okimike67
Personally Cain is not my horse but I like him non the less. Smart, experienced and not polluted by politics. Not having a long political resume is not necesarily a black mark. Oh, and when they were saying Obama had no experience they were right. Cain has experience and a very long succesful resume base on economics.
Obama had NONE and I think it is showing. Hope and Change. LOL!
And Taka, they werent saying political experience, they were saying experience at ANYTHING. Thinking of a word that rymes with... One Delta Ten Tango (I D 10 T)!!!
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sailwind
Just for the record I was backing Cain way back in May when he first announced. Good to see him move into a real frontrunner status..
sailwindMay. 22, 2011 - 02:50PM JST
I like the guy. Knows how to create jobs, real jobs and was head of the Federal Reserve Bank in Kansas City. He knows economic reality and federal policy. A potent combination to get our economy back on track with some real 'been there, done that' experience. Plus he isn't a darling of the Washington beltway or Ivy league elite types, I like that.
The Herminator is my number 1 pick in the field so far.
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okimike67
Sailwind, thumb for you. Guys got a head on his shoulder, see him though as a VP and not the anointed one. Hope he is either on the ticket or in the Administration for the New President.
Hear Obama is calling around to get estimates on his upcoming Household Goods Move!
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sailwind
okimike67,
I have to respectfully disagree. I do see him as up for the top spot. I thought Perry had potential but his first debate performance was pretty weak and didn't show any improvement in his latter ones. Plus Obama's team would do everything in their power to remind folks that he is a Texan just like GWB, they do not seem to know anything else but to blame everything on Bush no matter how much of stretch that they have to go to. Romney, never have liked the guy. Reminds me of nothing but a republican version of Bill Clinton's "slick willie". Obama's team wants to run against him though and is pushing for it hard. They see Romney as the perfect way to let Obama off the hook for his horrid health care reform act in the general election. Its going to be hard for Romney to go after him when Obama crafted his plan on Romney's blueprint. Plus Romney is a wall street type of guy and Obama's team will hammer him with that using his faux populism class warfare schtick to he has lately adopted. Cain on the other hand is truly a main street type of guy and knows how business operates there and not on wall street. He gets main street America and mainstreet America senses that in return, that is really why he has moved up in the polls and has confounded the pundits and the elites. I think he will only get better in the future on the issues as he now has serious cash and backing rolling in and now he can put together a real top notch staff to advise him. Just my opinion and I do respect yours also as to why you may feel he's not up for the number slot.
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Serrano
"It's funny to see people now so excited about Herman Cain, whose ( who has ) never held political office"
It's funny to see people put down Herman Cain because he doesn't have political experience, the same people who think Barack Obama is doing a great job, ha ha!
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okimike67
Sailwind, I wont be disappointed at all if he does win!!! I just think that "politics" will keep him out of the top seat (for now). Like his 999 more than any other plan as well!!
Agree Perry pulled a firework and I never had a good feel with him anyway.
Regardless of who gets it, I just hope they are strong enough to get in. Was SOOOO disappointed with McCain being nominated to appease teh "politics", jsut hope it doesnt happen again and serve Obama's needs. The country cant take another 4 years of him. IMHO
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unreconstructed
No they weren't. It was Obama's lack of executive experience that the rest of us wanted the lapdog media to examine.
Obama's political instincts are quite well honed. He gamed the American system expertly, benefitted unfairly from affirmative action and as we now know from the Kurtz book Radical-in-Chief, was heavily involved in socialist politics from his youth and has misrepresented himself, knowing the mainstream media would buy his fraud and even support him in deceiving the American public.
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okimike67
Some of the worlds GREATEST leaders had little or NO political experience prior to holding the office at the top. Just like many of the worlds most successful (richest) people have never graduated from college. The interesting coralary here is that both previous political experience and college tell you how it is SUPPOSED to be. Those without the pre-programing are able to apply more logic.
All for that!!
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Taka313
And...uh...I've never posted things that were purposely that were untrue. Or changed my story. Nope. Never. And I just started posting here.
And the rest of us believe you too. No, really.
Taka
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yabits
Herman Cain is to American politics as Stonehenge is to a Spinal Tap concert.
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Serrano
Herman Cain didn't sit in a racist preacher's congregation for 20 years.
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yabits
It's quite clear that Cain's supporters are divorced from truth and reality. How else could they be Cain supporters?
I read that Cain has done yet another back-flip on his abortion position -- even after he's had ample opportunity to "explain" himself on it. Now, he is opposed to abortion even if the mother's life is in danger. I find it hard to understand how endangering the life of a woman is a "pro-life" position. For years, Cain agreed with abortion under the conditions of rape, incest, if the mother's life was in danger.
You get a sense of Cain's real pro-life values when he says he wants to put up a fence that will electrocute Mexicans and any from south of the border who try to breach it. One has to assume that includes pregnant women.
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unreconstructed
Obama is Milli Vanilli.
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yabits
Hot off the news wire.
Looks like Cain has got some sexual harassment charges in his past. Women that he had to pay off in order to buy their silence.
Maybe he was just trying to show them some of his motivational techniques.
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Molenir
This was your response when someone pointed out Obamas personal and longstanding association with a known racist. Care to comment on his personal friendship with Ayers as well? I mean who doesn't know and have a personal relationship with a terrorist these days right? Heh.
This just in, Dems realizing how dangerous Cain is, decide to go for the Anita Hill smear campaign. He's black, he's conservative, and hell it worked with Thomas. Did anyone else seen this coming?
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Serrano
Oh good grief, leave it to yabits to jump on Cain for unsubstantiated charges that he denies.
"Maybe he was just trying to show them some of his motivational techniques"
Yeah and maybe you don't know what you're talking about.
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Molenir
This just in, Cain accused of Raping a white woman...
Ah wait, he probably needs to actually get the nomination before the Dems pull that card.
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yabits
Whether Wright -- if that's who is being referred to here -- is "racist," is a matter of opinion. I have seen no evidence that he hates any race. (There is evidence that Cain "settled" by paying off women.)
Sure. It's another example of a right-wing lie. Where is this "personal friendship" documented anywhere? FactCheck.org has a great piece on how McCain and the Republicans lied about the extent of the relationship between Obama and Ayers, backed up by solid evidence of its extent. And right-wingers continue to repeat the lie. However, there is strong evidence now coming in that Cain had to pay off at least two women.
Certainly not yours and my president Barack Obama.
LOL! Perhaps it's just reporters doing their jobs. What "dirt" we heard about Anita Hill comes from the right-wing smear job known as The Real Anita Hill by David Brock. Brock later had to reckon with his conscience and ultimately revealed that his book was completely false about Ms. Hill's true character. He then wrote an apologia titled Blinded by the Right. Since we know the right-wing admittedly told lies to smear Ms. Hill, her accusations about the lecherous Clarence Thomas suddenly are tremendously more credible, making Thomas one of the worst kinds of liars.
There are many ways to be "dangerous." Paying off women to buy their silence would count as one of them.
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yabits
Let's get this straight. If evidence comes in that a person has had to pay off women in order to buy their silence with regards to sexual harassment charges, we should just take that person's denials as the truth?
The charge at this point is that Cain had to reach settlements with at least two women. I seriously doubt that the allegation is unsubstantiated.
It could be the work of some Republicans. At this point, Cain is more of a danger to them.
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arrestpaul
What "evidence" has been presented so far? The National Restaurant Association (NOT Cain) paid an unknown settlement amount to 2 women? What does the NRA have to say about these allegations? Who are these women and what do they have to say? Did the NRA just pay to avoid a costly lawsuit? Even if the NRA won the case, they would have been forced to pay attourney fees and court costs. It's not uncommon for companies to pay blackmailers a fee to avoid a jury trial.
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yabits
So what? Cain was the head of the Association and the multiple instances of alleged misconduct occurred at numerous association functions. So it would have been while Cain was acting in his role as association president. So, during that time, a check to keep the women quiet coming from the organization is pretty much identical to coming from its president.
Gee, Paul, you really do some unique stretching to defend one of your own. What next? You going to put the whole jury system on trial here? So the women accusing Cain were blackmailing him? I'm sure the question that Herman asked them was: "C'mon now ladies. What do I have to pay to make this all go away?"
Neither Cain nor the association would have had to pay the women a penny, or go to trial. All Cain had to was apologize for his inappropriate conduct and resign as president of the association the very first time it was brought to his attention. These payments to buy silence make Cain look very, very bad.
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Taka313
Wow. That's a level of desperation that leads me to believe you are convinced that President Obama has the reelection in the bag but are in denial.
Bill Ayers? Really? I'm laughing at you molenir. Not with you. At you. That was desperate.,
Taka
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yabits
It shows the extent of the mendacity the right-wingers will engage in to satisfy their deep-seated hatred of our president.
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Molenir
Gotcha, no video evidence of his sermons exists... Heh, so funny Yabits. Although I wonder whether it ever gets hard to breath down there, I mean since you've obviously got your head buried in the sand.
As for Ayers, there is tons of evidence that proves it. Do I need to rehash it here? In a thread about Cain? Your pathetic attempts to deny it, does not change reality, nor history. Obama had a long association with both Wright, and Ayers. Thats reality. Deal with it.
Heh, standard Leftist tactic. Deny, Deny, Deny. And spin if you can't deny. I mention the truth about Obamas past association with left wing radicals, and am accuesed of being desperate, and in denial. What you fail to understand is, that it really doesn't matter. As far as I'm concerned, the election is already over. Whoever the Republicans nominate will win. Obama is a lame-duck. The only thing that we're waiting for, are the actual results. So, no desperation here.
And the latest smear campaign against Cain is what? As I said before, who didn't see this coming? You would have to be an idiot not to know that someone would accuse Cain of doing something sexually inappropriate. The only surprise I had was that they didn't go for a rape allegation. But then, even Anita Hill didn't go that far. Still, I thought thats what they would go for, instead its the same campaign they tried against Thomas, this time with 2 women.
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okimike67
It is not deep seated hatred, it is disgust and disappointment. When someone has to lie, cheat and steal to get something its a disgrace. And to those that did/still support the existing administration... you were duped, admit it.
The fact is that most people embellish their resume to get the job. And to a limited degree that is accepted. But thats when the fire is lit, you BETTER perform as promised. He did and has not. Time to go.
An ole proverb applies here; "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on ME!! Please, for the sake of humanity, pull back, take the blinders off and the sound bites out of the ears and use your cranium (just a littel bit). You will see that the veil is getting thinner and one need only want to see the truth to see right through it!
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Molenir
Heh, I just read a story that said, back when Obama was a community organizer, he sexually harrased a couple of the women in his organization. 2 of those women quit. There is evidence to support this...
Wonder what the response would be to this?
Likewise I wonder, why Dems feel this is even an issue? I mean a man has sexual relations in the white house with an intern, lies about it, and we are told, its just sex. No big deal. But if a black conservative starts to be successful, then its time for the ol' Anita Hill, high tech lynching.
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yabits
You brought up the accusation of racism, but don't have a single line of evidence to justify it. So it's just another false accusation. Par for the course.
You brought up Ayers. I have not seen any source that is as reliable as Factcheck.org produce any credible evidence -- and plenty of evidence which refutes the claim. The deep well of lies that conservatives drink from has polluted their judgment.
Why did the Republicans (or Democratic challengers) not produce this evidence during the run to the 2008 election? Yes, it does make the right-wingers look desperate, as well as childish.
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yabits
So why do conservatives resort to lying and cheating at every turn? I would think that someone who decries lying as much as conservatives claim to would be scrupulous seekers of "the truth." But they are not.
I proudly cast my vote for President Obama and will do so again.
With my blinders off, I can see yours quite clearly.
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arrestpaul
Were strawmen on sale today? Since there has been no actual evidence presented as of yet, how much mileage do you expect to get out of inuendo?
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okimike67
Well then I truely feel sorry for you and the rest of my fellow Americans should he make it back. It could be just what the Mayan calendar needs to fulfill the prediction.
It is idiologs that will bring this country down. Power to Socialism! Obama:s next cabinet will be lead in prayer by Wright, Ayers will be Policy Chief and wont need anyone else. He is already showing his colors by legislating by the pen, in spite of congress (1/2 of which is controlled by DEMS, Senate).
Cain has pulled his race card, not a politician card, here for change card and he is now running from his record. Should be interesting.
And Yabits, if you want a friendly wager as to his cahnces I will give you 2 to 1!!
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yabits
This is what I mean about people who've clearly lost a grip on reality.
The nation needs a strong Democratic president more than ever. But the nation also needs a mentally healthy Republican opposition. Most of these Republicans, with the exception of Huntsman, are crazy.
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Serrano
"The nation needs a strong Democratic president more than ever"
It does not.
"Most of these Republicans, with the exception of Huntsman, are crazy"
Are you sure Huntsman's not crazy too, yabits? LOL.
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unreconstructed
Obama's ties to Ayers are clear and easily documented. Avoiding them, pretending they don't exist or that Obama was truthful on the matter is what takes desperation.
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Taka313
Writing something down on a piece of paper and then reading it, does not make something true. It makes you delusional and desperate.
Do you honestly think that President Obama, who was raked over the coals for not wearing a freaking lapel pin, could have gotten away with sexual harrassment? Are you that naive? Really? Your desperation for something, ANYTHING to pin on Obama is funny.
Like the Bill Ayers thing. You will clutch at ANY straw. I thought better of you than that molenir. I thought you were above that kind of thing.
Wow.
Taka
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yabits
Since he did a great job as our nation's ambassador to China, selected by President Obama, one can very sure he's a lot better than the circus clowns who the Tea Party seem to favor. The Republican base is far too whacked out by their own ideology of hatred to realize what a fine candidate (and president) Huntsman would make.
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yabits
Only to the clearly and easily deluded.
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Taka313
Indeed they are. When you take out a piece of paper and your very bestest number 2 pencil and write, Obama has ties to Bill Ayers and then read it aloud, it does not make it suddenly and magically true. It makes it what you want to be.
THAT and reality haven't met in a while. Since Reagan let all you guys out.
Taka
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TigermothII
Reagan did let us all out - into the broad sunlit uplands after the being subjected to the nightmare years of the peanut farmer.
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unreconstructed
Obama's ties to Ayers are clear and easily documented.
But that would mean, among others, Politico - you know, the news outfit that broke the story of Cain's 'sexual harassment.'
Read for yourself
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html
Also -
Steve Chapman, Chicago Tribune:
"Obama minimized his relationship by acknowledging only that he knows Ayers. But they have quite a bit more of a connection than that. He’s appeared on panels with Ayers, served on a foundation board with him and held a 1995 campaign event at the home of Ayers and his wife, fellow former terrorist Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers even gave money to one of his campaigns"
There is lots more.
Funny how some of us can come here with proof, while others can only make personal attacks and give insult...
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yabits
The "ties" and "personal friendship" are not born out in the Politico link. It is titled: "Obama once visited..."
Once visited?
Quoting from it: "but there’s no evidence their relationship is more than the casual friendship of two men who occupy overlapping Chicago political circles and who served together on the board of a Chicago foundation." The foundation also had conservatives on its board -- who were in the same "casual friendship" and proximity as Obama was to Ayers. We assume by "casual friendship" that the two were able to do board work without coming to blows -- just as the conservatives on the board were able to do.
As it relates to Herman Cain, Barack Obama never had to commit felonies by transferring money from a private charity set up by his campaign aides. Barack never had to pay off Ayers or anyone else to buy their silence.
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Taka313
OH MY GOD. William Ayers likes oxygen. I like oxygen. I HAVE TIES TO WILLIAM AYERS. OH EM GEE!!!
And I was a weather forecaster, so SURELY I had to be a part of the Weather Underground. It all makes sense now. If you stetch it JUUUUUST so and look at through the light at this angle (squint your eyes a little), it's plain as day.
Anyway, from Factcheck.org:
CNN Fact Check, Oct. 5: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.
Game. Set. Match.
Taka
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TigermothII
I just think it's hilariously funny (okay actually pathetically sad and f'd up) that when there was any criticism of our current President, the race card was immediately dropped; 'you're just saying that because you can't deal with a black president'. But now that the conservatives have come out with a black candidate he's fair game. And actually I wouldn't accuse any liberal of racism for criticizing Cain for his beliefs and policy ideas. Criticizing someone in or running for office is not racism, but the American right. But funny how the hypocrisy works. Apparently racism, sexism, and class-ism (any negative 'ism') only seems to exist on the right, according to the left.
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Madverts
Even sarah Palin stopped with the Bill Ayres nonesnse once she'd finally helped Mr Obama to victory. I didn't think even the most un-hinged, tinfoil hat wearing after-birther would bring that up again.
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arrestpaul
Obama met Ayers in 1995 while they both worked for an organization associated with Chicago's Mayor Daley II. Ayers then held a campaign rally AT HIS OWN HOME to introduce Obama to compaign contributors during Obama's run for the Illinois State Senate.
Cain never associated with the two famous terrorists, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.
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yabits
No, it was the "bone-in-nose" witch doctor, Obamacare posters and T-shirts prominently displayed at Tea Party gatherings.
Are you saying a candidate's character should not be fair game just because he's black? That would prove the point about the latent racism of the right-wing.
Hypocrisy is best viewed in a mirror. Plenty of racism and sexism exists on the left. It is the right who keeps denying it exists within their ranks. That might be the main difference. I have learned to be, as a white American, more conscious and aware of my own feelings about racial and cultural differences. If I were to pretend those feelings didn't exist, I would be as blindly racist and sexist as your average right-winger.
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TigermothII
Untrue statement. Even legitimate criticisms of the President's policies were, and still are frequently labeled with the tag of 'racist' simply because the critic is white. Your assumption that every conservative is a 'tea bagger' is not only redundantly ridiculous but also a great fallacy.
If you will actually read my statement you will note that I stated "And actually I wouldn't accuse any liberal of racism for criticizing Cain for his beliefs and policy ideas." Right there in black and white. What I am saying is that the liberal double standard takes great offense when it is done to their candidate, but holds no such feelings of offense when the same is done by them to the opposition, which is hypocrisy.
I don't know about your philosophical 'hypocrisy is best viewed in a mirror' statement as it sounds like a lot of rubbish, but your statement that the right denies there is racism in their ranks is also a blatant untruth. It stems from your same erroneous assumptions that all on the right are members of the tea party, and that all tea party members are racist. The latter assumption is based more upon a strong emotional abhorrence to the tea party's philosophies and an overall guilt by association that the left has a nasty habit of doing. I think most people will admit that there is racism in every part of society, politics aside. Some of it is blatant (southern boy with a rebel flag on his truck) and some of it not so much ('open minded' white person who only looks for houses in all white neighborhoods). And racism is an issue on both sides and from all races. No one is denying that, not even the conservatives. They just don't loudly claim how 'open-minded' they are when it is convenient and PC.
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TigermothII
I hope this is not pulled as a personal attack, because I really do not mean it to be, but rather interesting observation. And it is germane to the subject we were discussing of racism. But racism is largely based upon stereotypes. A 'those people....' way of thinking. Yet despite your attempts to present yourself as an 'open-minded' liberal, your broad condemnation of everyone on the right being a blatant racist sort of puts paid to that doesn't it? Isn't your condemnation of everyone on the right based upon their political leanings - a label if you will - no different really than labeling a race of people and condemning them because you think they're all the same? That's the enlightened left??
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Taka313
arrestpaul,
You crack me up man. Seriously. Who to believe, some stranger on the internet with an obvious agenda or FactCheck.org? Hmmmm? (I'm scratching my chin as I mull this over)......
......
(Still scratching)
.......
Nope, can't do it. I'm going to have to go with FactCheck.org over a stranger on the internet with an obvious agenda. But that just may be MY bias showing.
Taka
Or maybe not.
Taka
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yabits
Well, that's mighty nice of you. At what point does critical investigation of Cain's character become racist? Is when an Ann Coulter is compelled to proclaim: "OUR BLACKS are better than "their" blacks?" This is yet another in a very long list of gross and ugly statements by Coulter and still Fox and other conservative venues invite her and provide her with platform to spout her bile and hatred.
Nowhere have I said or suggested that all on the right are "members" of the tea party. I would say that a large majority of those on the right sympathize with the Tea Party movement and its goals. (That does not mean a majority of Republicans -- many of whom are attacked by the right for being RINOs -- i.e.: not ideologically pure enough.) Living here in Georgia for over 25 years now has given me a lot of intimate familiarity with the conservatives and tea party supporters living here. And I do know the code words when I hear them.
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Molenir
Probably about the same point where disagreement with a sitting President becomes racism. Going by your standard logic, that would mean, if you dare to investigate, criticize, or have any doubts about Cain, that you are in fact a racist.
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arrestpaul
Maybe you should stop touching yourself and you wouldn't be so confused about who you are? Bill Ayers and Beradine Dorhn held a political meet-your-candidate for Obama in their own home. No "maybe" about it.
On the other hand - Presidential candidate Herman Cain is full of confidence about his 2012 prospects. It's been weeks since he's set foot in first-voting Iowa or New Hampshire, yet he said Saturday he said expects to finish first or second in each state. He's also predicting victory in South Carolina, which will hold the South's first presidential contest in 2012.
This latest progressive effort to derail Cain's candidacy run doesn't seem to be affecting his supporters. His campaign contributions are reported to be up.
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yabits
Well then, it's the Republicans who will have to stand with that on both counts. The leaks to Politico are believed by Cain to originate with the GOP. I would say he has very good reason to believe that.
You should stop trying to drag liberals and Democrats into your intra-party race-baiting and politics of personal destruction.
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unreconstructed
"The past three years." Meaning 2005 to 2008. Well done. Fooled a lot of Libs. The Rest of Us? Not so easily. Obama's relationship with Ayers goes way back. Funny how the entire 1990's is glanced over. Below is a link to a photo of Obama which accompanies a short review he did of one of Ayers' books. But they are from 1997, and the photo appears in a newspaper; lib journos realized they could probably feign ignorance on that one.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/19/oh-these-are-the-people-in-your-neighborhood/
Also - - Michelle Obama (then Robinson) worked at the same law firm where Bernardine Dhorn (Mrs. Bill Ayers) worked, and the period of their employment there overlaps.
Coincidence!
Tax records are pretty hard to fake, if only because unsporting judges, not to mention the federal government, tend to frown on such activities.
But unless the blogger below lost all instinct for self-preservation and, desperate for a few more hits to his site, concocted a forgery, Obama and Ayers appear to have had the same tax address for at least one whole year in the 90s.
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=2907
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TigermothII
You deflect point and question by spouting off something in another direction. The main point Molenir was making, and I earlier, is that whenever any criticism of President Obama was offered up, it was immediately labeled by supporters on the left as racism. And I'm not just talking about the stupid posters and blatantly racists crap, but the real fact that on this forum and other media that was fact. It was like he was supposed to be 'untouchable' because he was black. Now your type is piling on Cain with reckless abandon. Okay, fair game as he's a political candidate. But why was it that legitimate criticisms of Obama's policies were met with immediate cries from the left of 'you racists!!' but those same standards do not apply to you? Of course you see no hypocrisy there because your precious cause can do no wrong.
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yabits
Really? Any and all criticism was labeled as racism? I know that is not true. Far from it, actually. And since I know that, I have to wonder why this gross exaggeration of reality? For example, I know John Boehner disagrees with Obama, but I don't recall anywhere reading or hearing that he's racist for doing so.
I happen to believe that there are many whites in America who don't like the fact that a Democrat is in the White House, and like it even less that he's not white. But there's also a lot of whites who are proud that a person of Barack Obama's background and journey has made it to the White House.
That is absolutely ridiculous, and it betrays a total lack of understanding of reality.
I could never deny that a cause that is grounded in reality is better than one that is not.
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unreconstructed
Who cares? Coulter is the Bill Maher of the right. She doesn't hold office. Why does the Left obsess about this woman so much?
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yabits
She's a right-wing, tea-party-supporting conservative whose books and ideas sell quite well among them. And she just made a statement asserting that one entire class of people (black conservatives) is inherently superior to another class (black supporters of liberals and Democrats).
It is rather noteworthy that few, if any, conservatives have raised their voices to dispute or condemn her remarks. Expressing that an entire class of people is inferior because of their racial identity combined with their politics is the proof that many right-wingers do not judge individuals by the content of their character. Such a sweeping generalization shows how right-wingers demonize an entire group of people.
Thank you, Ann.
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arrestpaul
If few conservatives have raised their voices to dispute or condemn her remarks, why do you insist that Coulter speaks for conservatives? If conservatives ignore her, why do you think she is so important?
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yabits
Where do you come up with such dense and pointless questions?
Where did I ever "insist" that Coulter speaks "for conservatives?" She speaks as a conservative and strong supporter of the tea party movement. It is obvious that her views have a great deal of appeal among other conservatives, since they fork over their money to buy her books. It is terribly stupid to imply or claim that conservatives ignore her, judging by the sales of those books.
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unreconstructed
So go ahead and refute for us here what Coulter claims...
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yabits
So you support what Coulter claims. Why would anyone waste their time showing dyed-in-the-wool bigots why bigotry is wrong? By all means, continue to wallow in your own hatred.
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unreconstructed
I haven't bought her book. I do support free speech tho.
This 'bigot', who's had friends and lovers from every continent on this planet, is in his third decade in Asia.
The race card don't work anymore.
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arrestpaul
Oh no, not another personal attack from yabits to bolster his lack of argument. If Coulter had said "our" team is better than "their" team, does that denote ownership of "the team"? No, it does not.
Meanwhile, back at the Cain controversy, NONE of his accusers are willing to come forward to discuss their earlier blackmail attempts against the NatRestAssoc. NONE of Cain's accusers ever filed legal charges in a court of law. ONE woman is speaking thru her lawyer that "something" happened and she refuses to implicate herself any further. The media types, bloggers, and MSDNC continue to spin a web of lies and falsehoods hoping to smear Cain. Without an actual accounting of what happened or facts to back up the lame claims, progressives, liberals, and Democrats are happily spreading the worst of the RUMORS.
FYI - Cain didn't own a "pizza franchise". He was the chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza from 1986 to 1996. Cain was the deputy chairman of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City from 1992 to 1994, and was chairman from 1995 to 1996. Cain was then president and CEO of the National Restaurant Association from 1996 to 1999. Before his career in business, Cain was a mathematician in ballistics as a civilian employee of the United States Navy.
Obama, on the other hand, was a community organizer who learned how to get the government to pay for his education and then for his constituants votes.
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arrestpaul
Coulter claims that "her" team (conservatives) are better than "their" team (progressives and liberals). You see bigotry where no bigotry exists and hatred where no hatred exists. It's tough to convince others that you are right and they are wrong when you don't understand what they are saying.
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yabits
Hold on a second. A few posts ago you were implying that Coulter is ignored by conservatives. I guess the reminder of all those thousands upon thousands of books she's sold them was enough to dissuade that piece of idiocy.
It's nice for you to use the word "team" because a team is non-specific as to its make-up. But Coulter didn't use the word "team" to defend Cain: She flat out stated that "her/our blacks" were better than any blacks that weren't part of her political bent.
It's even tougher to convince those who shamelessly defend bigotry by dishonestly replacing key words, ie: blacks. Coulter is even better than the fictional Archie Bunker. And her "explainers" sure know how to dance.
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yabits
Noted that Cain's resume stops over a decade ago. Probably figured he could cash in on the "I'm one of the Better Blacks-Just ask Ann Coulter" speakers circuit.
Obama, on the hand, became a US Senator, President of the United States, and Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces. A fact that drives conservatives apoplectic with disgust. Just ask bin Laden if he's done an effective job.
Of course, motivational speaker really comes close to matching those accomplishments.
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arrestpaul
And you would be wrong. I was questioning your previous post. YOU suggested that Coulter was being ignored and now talk about how well her books are selling and how successful she is.
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yabits
No. It was you who first wrote this: "If conservatives ignore her, why do you think she is so important?"
I never suggested that Coulter was being ignored; it was you who leaped to that conclusion. There is a BIG difference between being ignored and remaining silent in the face of racist remarks. In fact, far from being ignored, those conservatives speaking out are defending or rationalizing Coulter's racist comment.
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unreconstructed
Outside of the febrile minds of 'progressives' Coulter is not running for president. Who cares what she says.
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yabits
Outside of U.S. conservatives, tea party supporters, and the media executives who print her columns and publish her books, only those who view her remarks as representative of the ilk she supports and who support her.
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