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Sarge
"its ( Pakistan's ) warplanes have pounded the militant-held valley"
Isn't this going to cause unacceptable civilian casualties?"
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adaydream
President Asif Ali Zardari on Meet the Press is saying that the US must continue to fund the Pakistani Amry to fight the Taliban. An amount no less than a $Billion a year.
He said the $10Billion given before was spent in fighting the Taliban.
I just don't see it. I don't see that the Pakistani Army has been active at any high level fighting the Talibam the last 4 or 5 years. It appears that they have had a few scrape with them and with some real damages to civilians villages.
Pakistan has to step up to the plate and show real efforts at fighting the Taliban and finding Osama bin Laden. < :-)
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Den Den
Why should the Pakistan government have to find Bin Larden? The "Taliban" are probably just poor subsistence farmers given a few sacks of rice and the choice between Sharia or corrupt capitalistic Globalization.
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Sarge
"The "Taliban" are probably just poor subsistence farmers"
Sure.
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Samuraiiki
Now is the time to uproot them once and for all. No turning back. We can not afford to have them get close to those nukes.
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tkoind2
DenDen, in most cases I would agree about the corrupt nature of globalization and conflicts with locals. But the Taliban are different.
I know people in Peshawar who live under threat from the Taliban. These are music instrument makers who have been threatened to stop making traditional instruments because the Taliban think music is against god. And in doing so they are trying to repeat the same assasination of culture that they imposed on Afghanistan.
Religious extremism of any brand is a danger to freedom, to human rights and to the ability of people to live and prosper. It cannot be tolerated and this kind of gangster religious faction cannot be allowed to dominate over people who do not share their values.
When people in Afghanistan and Pakistan say they want the outsiders to go home, they mean both foreign troops and the Taliban. Historically these areas are made up of highly independent groups of people who, when left alone, get on with living.
The radical Taliban are an equal threat to the future of these people as any globalization or corporate threats that may exist.
Once in a while we have to put aside our conflict with the corruption of modern capitalism and take a stand based on priniciples. I support the Pakistani effort to route the Taliban. I hope to see them expand this route to include all of the NW region including Peshawar. Perhaps then the people of the region can get on with living and not having to live in fear of a bunch of thugs masking themselves as soldiers of Sharia.
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Alphaape
I guess Mushariff wasn't so bad after all. Sure he was a strong man but at least the Taliban was kept to a very remote region. Now they seem to be marcing all the way to the capital.
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Mittsu
Here comes Afghanistan mark 2.
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Triumvere
No, Mushariff was certainly "so bad". If he had been remotely interested in combating militants the problem wouldh hae never got this far. All he did was play the US off the militants for $$$. It took the taliban getting too close to Pakistan's nukes to actually convince them to do anything about it.
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timorborder
Have to laugh at the general preoccupation with body counts. If operations start being preoccupied with kill ratios, etc., sooner or later some devious commander is going to start dressing up the figures (killing civilians in plain English). Although I have many American friends who are still on active service (most of them have been now been promoted out of field level commands), I could never understand the preoccupation with the number of enemy killed.
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teleprompter
I hopes they weren't waterboarded before going to their final reward. That would be too much.
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elbudamexicano
Now, if Pakistan had any brains, they would ask India for help now, India really wants to catch the Taliban, Alqaeda etc..Go India! Or at least help the Taliban near the Indian border to let the Indian army get their hands on these terrorists!
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Sarge
"Authorities have yet to say how many civilians have been killed or wounded, possibly for fear of causing a public outcry"
Yet in the case of U.S. airstrikes, the authorities always immediately report how many civilians have been killed or wounded, possibly for wanting to cause a public outcry.
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some14some
Pakistan may not have her own brain, she has two super brains i.e.USA and China why would they seek help from India? Anyway, India would not interfere in Pakistans 'internal affairs' !
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Triumvere
Only problem here is Pakistan hates India with a passion. You know where 80-90% of the Pakistani Army is right now? Is not Swat. It's on the Indian boarder... the generals are convinced that India could attack any time. Why do you think the army was so reluctant to take on the Taliban? Many see the Muslim Taliban as brothers, and hindu India as their real enemy. Even annexing an entire chunk of the country wasn't good enough (not that Pakistan really ever controlled the tribal areas anyway...) It took the Taliban getting too close to the nukes for them to act. If you want to know where the worlds first Nuclear War will come from, Pakistan and India (rather than terrorists, North Korea or Iran) you should look to.
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ca1ic0cat
It's good that Pakistan is finally realizing that the Taliban aren't going to settle for anything less than a religious dictatorship. But what is the fascination with keeping score? 700, 1000, 1400? Who is in control? Are the people safe? Until every Taliban is gone they haven't won.
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adaydream
Sarge at 06:54 AM JST - 11th May "The "Taliban" are probably just poor subsistence farmers" Sure.
Sarge they probably are. You think they are doctors or lawyers or what?
They are misguided individuals fighting for a cause they think is right and just. As misguided as they are, they would die for their cause.
I'm glad that Pakistan is taking on the Taliban. It's been too long that they were allowed to run roughshod. < :-)
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bushlover
No adaydream, they are religious freaks who would murder others for their 'cause'. They are nothing but murderers. Farmers would only care about farming and not sharia law and the suppression of fun, music, art, television etc. These are the worst kind of murderers. However that said I think they all should have a fair trail.... This statement is only to satisfy the moderators who don't like that I would call for their harm.
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USNinJapan2
adaydream
Precisely. And we for ours, well, at least some of us are...
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teleprompter
When they can't travel to kill infidels in Iraq or Afghanistan the Taliban head to places like Pakistan to turn on their own? What a whacked out 'religion.'
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rajakumar
Gilani-Zardari/US/EU/others should help to impose miltary interim rule in NWFP/FATA for more peace , and for better civilan rule later.
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Sarge
"As misguided as they ( the Taliban ) are, they would die for their cause"
According to the Pakistanis, 700 of them have died in the past week.
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