Maj Nidal Malik Hasan
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sailwind at 11:37 PM JST - 7th November

All I have to say is this.

Maj. Hasan's ideology and stated beliefs are, to borrow a phrase, an inconvenient truth that must be ignored, excused and downplayed by the media and the apologist Left (but I repeat myself) until proper blame can be assessed and assigned to the usual suspects (Fox News, talk radio, the right-wing blogosphere, Sarah Palin, George Bush, the US military, Wal Mart, Haliburton, the religious Right, Israel, et. al., etc., ad naseum).
Wolfpack at 12:02 AM JST - 8th November

By all indications, this was a premeditated terrorist attack by a Muslim man infected by Islamic religeous hatred. Of course he became disliked by his peers - he was basically telling them that he hated them because they believed in fighting terrorists. Any of this crap about him have PTSD is just that - crap. He was never been in combat. He became radicalized for some reason and was in a perfect position to attack the US military from within. It will be interesting to know if he was ever in contact with anyone else that may have influenced him to do this or if he decided on this by himself.

I've heard that he was upset that he was not treated well in the military because he is Muslim. So after yelling "Allah Akbar!" and killing and wounding dozens of soldiers he hasn't done any favors for other Muslims in the service.

This was an act of terrorism and I wish the media would report it as such. To do otherwise is an odd avoidance of the plain facts that everyone can see to be true. Political correctness has gotten out of hand in the media and even within the military itself.
skipthesong at 12:06 AM JST - 8th November

Hasan made clear he was a “vociferous opponent” of U.S. wars in Muslim countries" So, do we take this as he was NOT opposed to war, only a war in which Muslims are getting killed? does he shed tears or sorrow when an AQ Kamikaze kills Muslims? I doubt that question will be asked of him... you know once he's out of his sleep, anything he says is going to be hushed up.
Hehehohohaha at 12:21 AM JST - 8th November

This was an act of terrorism and I wish the media would report it as such. To do otherwise is an odd avoidance of the plain facts that everyone can see to be true. Political correctness has gotten out of hand in the media and even within the military itself.

Terrorism generally means attacks on civilians. This was an attack on a military base by a lone shooter whose motives remain unclear despite all the speculation, so there is a bit of uncertainty as to what to call it. Hardly a case of PC for anyone not a fanatic.
bushlover at 02:36 AM JST - 8th November

[This was an attack on a military base by a lone shooter whose motives remain unclear despite all the speculation, so there is a bit of uncertainty as to what to call it. Hardly a case of PC for anyone not a fanatic.]

Unclear? Well I think that "Allah Akbar" sheds some light on it. Speculation it is but it's based on some facts. Your speculation that anyone expressing this opinion is a "fanatic" is more of a sensationalism than what is being said about this shooter.
SuperLib at 03:17 AM JST - 8th November

What they guy did was premeditated murder. That's pretty much what it comes down to. His actions were motivated by a radical form of Islam not shared by most Muslims in the world. The blame is on him for subscribing to a such a warped philosophy that results in intentionally murdering innocent people around him. If he practiced the same form of Islam that nearly everyone else does then the victims would still be alive today.

Blaming it on the military or conflicts overseas is equally bogus. You can't have it both ways. You can't tell me that his anger is legitimate on one hand and then say that he's an isolated case on the other. Muslims are exposed to the conflicts just as they're exposed to Islam, and a vast majority of them do not kill innocent people. That fact shows that he's the exception in both cases, not just one.

What I don't understand is that if he wanted to kill people who kill Muslims, wouldn't the Taliban be his #1 target right now? We're practically seeing daily bombings in Pakistan that kill innocent Muslims. I don't know what the current score sheet is, but my guess is that recently they're outpacing pretty much everyone else.
SuperLib at 03:28 AM JST - 8th November

smithinjapan: it's pretty clear that the US military isn't exactly in the best state to pick and choose. They're recruiting policies involve duping the uneducated at shopping malls, and even hiring former criminals and gang members. They clearly don't want to just start booting people out because of red flags

This coming from the self-appointed "Anti-Generalization Czar" of Japan Today.... But I know what you mean. I read the same posts from adaydream, USAFdude, Taka313, et al. Maybe you should ask them what shopping mall they came from.

Alphaape: Funny in this case, I have not heard the calls on the board for more gun control in the US. When a white guy goes nuts and shoots up a workplace, all I see on the board is "more gun control" and the US is just a trigger happy wild wild west. But here on this board, and even in the US press, no mention of gun control on this one.

That's a pretty interesting point. I don't buy the racism angle, but I think it shows that people probably pick and choose how they use the victims so they can support whatever point it is they want to make. Had this not been military related, you're right, it would have instantly turned into a gun control debate with people taking their usual sides. But since the military angle is in play, people are using the story to project their own hangups about Islam or Bush or the military or whatever.
WilliB at 03:36 AM JST - 8th November

" Relatives said he felt harassed because of his Muslim faith but did not embrace extremism. "

Isn´t that typical. After each islamic terror incident, the non-terrorist part of the ummah turns and, instead of acknowledging the problem, turns around and plays victim. And our media continue to fall for it.
Madverts at 04:51 AM JST - 8th November

USN,

"All I'm saying, in contrast to smithinjapan and perhaps you, is that this man's faith played a significant role in his decision making process"

Respectfully, I don't think you have any phsycological evidence to back that claim up. How many other US spree-shooters were muslims? Without looking at figures, I'm guessing there's a huge majority of these nutcases that opened up the fire on anybody in the vicinity that were not muslims. They will, however, all have shared the sames nutter gene which is the real culprit in playing "a significant role in his decision making process". Anything else is just an excuse to use his religion as the reason for his actions, when it's clearly some sort of a mental breakdown IMO.

"I don't think saying this makes this an anti-Islam rant at all."

I wasn't particularly meaning you - some posters, especially one individual use the boards for no other reason than to spew hate about Islam at every opertune moment.
Madverts at 04:53 AM JST - 8th November

farhaan,

Aliens again? Heh, who in their right mind would stage an event like this?

And to what ends?

Heh, the conspiracy is so dumb it isn't even intriguing!
Madverts at 04:59 AM JST - 8th November

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killer

Not one muslim there, until the page get's edited to add this individuals death toll I guess.
tclh at 06:01 AM JST - 8th November

Just occasionally , American melting pot encounters such a tough metal to melt ...please don't despair , just fine tune the system and thing will be ok again. My sympathy to America.
SuperLib at 06:36 AM JST - 8th November

Madverts: I'm guessing there's a huge majority of these nutcases that opened up the fire on anybody in the vicinity that were not muslims. They will, however, all have shared the sames nutter gene which is the real culprit in playing "a significant role in his decision making process". Anything else is just an excuse to use his religion as the reason for his actions, when it's clearly some sort of a mental breakdown IMO.

It's fair to say that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it's also fair to say that nearly all terrorists are Muslim. There's an organized structure that uses Islam to create radical members that doesn't really seem to exist in other religions. There are Christians who blow up abortion clinics, but they seem to be the "lone gunman," not really someone groomed or trained by someone else. So you can't really say that these nutters are all pointing to the same religion as mere coincidence. They have a command structure, training, financing, manuals, websites, etc. They target certain people, recruit, etc.

What does it all mean? I'm not sure...heh. Being Muslim seems more like a way of life than other religions. I'm Christian but I don't practice any faith, but you don't seem to see many people who say they are Muslim but don't practice their faith. Maybe it's Islam is a religion that, when abused, makes people more easy to manipulate. I really don't know.
Madverts at 07:30 PM JST - 8th November

Super,

I accept what you say - my main issue is the way people are jumping on Islam here to associate this individuals actions with it. Terrorism is a world wide phenomenen, but the shotting-spree is a largely American monompoly. This is perhaps due to the availability of guns, or the sheer size of the population, but each and every time these are individuals that are mentally defective.

Whilst each and every shooting spree due to it's very nature is an act of terrorism, I don't think it's fair to call this particular incident an act of Islamic terrorism.

It's an un-prepared act of terrorism comitted by a derranged individual who happens to be a muslim. man, let's be thankfull he wasn't a real terrorist, groomed and prepared by other fanatics. The death toll here would have been horrendous.

Better phycological care needs to be taken of these service people. Incidents like this can surely be avoided.
Gombei424Canada at 08:03 PM JST - 8th November

Well, its just too funny that the few remaining bush supporters need to TRY and make this about Islam, as if the shooter was screaming "G-d is great" or something as he succumbed to the PTSD that bush caused him to suffer and lashed out. My condolences to the families of the victims.RIP, people.