Doctors Without Borders: 19 dead in Afghan clinic airstrike

Probably worth reposting what I said 2 days ago:

Otto added that the Russians have been dropping ‘dumb bombs,’ a reference to munitions that are not precision-guided. And the use of such indiscriminate targeting, he said, could kill innocent civilians, which could have the unintended consequence of creating more terrorists than they kill.

You mean a bit like when the US bombs weddings and the UK drops cluster bombs that don't explode until kids pick them up? Or the use of napalm in the siege of Fallujah? Or torture in US run Iraqi orisons? Those sort of things. Is that what the good US general means?

We were in Afghanistan for one reason ONLY ... to capture or kill Osama bin Laden, the man behind 9/11.

Osama has been dead (or presumed dead) since 2011. Consequently, the United States of America has no further reason for being in Afghanistan.

But we've had troops, drones, missiles, "private defense contractors" etc., ad nauseum in Afghanistan for FOURTEEN YEARS NOW ... through most of Dubya's two terms, and almost all of Obama's two terms thus far.

This cannot continue. We need to get the hell out NOW. Let somebody who lives in the region do their own damned fighting. Maybe we should take Bernie Sanders' advice and talk to our so-called allies in Saudi Arabia — who have the third-largest defense budget in the world — and tell the Saudis to DEFEND THEIR OWN TURF ...

... because it's way past time for the United States of America's War Machine to STAND DOWN NOW!

I predicted all this would happen 14 years ago. Afghanistan is a quagmire with a capital Q. And.the.war.goes.on.

Anyone who has read an account by the colonial British or the Soviets would know this. The only conclusion I can draw is that our policymakers are ignorant morons.

I think to leave Afghanistan or Iraq, the Middle East as a whole as bad as it is and I think it is a burden, as we have seen when you have a president like Obama leading from behind and refuses to engage the enemy on any level you will have as we have seen before our eyes, our enemies fill that vacuum not caring if there is a arms race or the sell of weapons, Russia in the ME can and will have very serious consequences in the long run, the sphere of influence. We owe it to our allies, the people that don't have a voice and we need a leader that can really organize a TRUE coalition to help at least minimize the threat of the Taliban and in the case of Syria purge Assad and try to support young Iranians to take a stand and to give them what they need to influence major change and overthrow the Mullahs that are destroying that country and will no doubt case more chaos in the ME in years to come.

Welcome to the War.