I don't think people's reactions to this should be cried down as mere 'political correctness' - it is unresponsible to make rash generalisations based on race in a national broadcast, I would think.
taka, thanks, but I can't listen to it on this thing. I am not on a PC.
In either case, I think its best to be with the majority of people in these cases where not the whole thing is heard, but what the media reported it to be.
I still, to this day, never heard Imus on the radio. I just don't listen to talk radio. Is he ever on that US military one?
skipthesong, the audio clip is even worse than the reports in the news. he pretty much played dumb as if he didnt know who the race of the person in question then proceed to ask "what color is he," funny how the other guy trying to cover is arse replies with "he's african american." sure the majority like him will defend this guy with the whole amendment free speech crap as if thats what they had in mind when they it was created. he sure knows which tree to bark up though, he knows well that he'll get nothing more than a fired up al sharpton and more exposure for his show.
Skip,
I don't know if Imus is on Eagle 810 or not. Honestly, I don't listen to it. It has nothing to do with politics, my musical tastes just aren't that mainstream, therefore not really represented on the radio, as a whole.
And I'm with you regarding talk radio. It's really not my thing, no matter who's doing the talking.
This was clearly a bigoted remark from a well known personality who should have known better in light of his past. No ifs, ands, or buts, what he said is as offensive or more so than what someone like Ishihara has said.
Imus is now not on Eagle 810. In 2002-05 they had programmed a two-hour block at 2-4 a.m. with Imus on for the first hour and Howard Stern for the second. When Stern moved to satellite radio they dropped the format.
The Imus/Sharpton conflict dates back more than 20 years to the Tawana Brawley.
As you may recall, in 1987 she was the black teenager who accused three white men, including a police officer, of kidnapping and brutally sexually assualting her. It was later determined that the allegations were spurious. Sharpton became her champion and in spite of the mounting evidence that the allegations could not be supported he continued his attacks on the system on her behalf.
Imus, along with Howard Stern, were particularly nasty in their treatment of Sharpton. At the time I was commuting from Richmond, Va., to Fort Lee everyday and followed the whole thing on the radio. While I found it all very entertaining, I doubt Sharpton did.
Sharpton was subsequently sued and held liable for an amount that I believe was $300,000 or so. I suspect that much of his animosity toward Imus is fueled more by revenge that it is for racial stereotyping.
Hey here's a thought: Maybe Don Imus could do what everyone else in the world does and not talk about race all the friggin' time.
I guess some seek to defend irresponsible speech with warnings of "big brother", but, the fact is that people have the right to respond. "1984" was pretty clear about "government" censorship. If one goes out of the way to declare something stupid or controversial, but then seeks to silence critics with cries of "big brother" and "censorship", is THAT person not attempting to intimidate others from speaking up? MY "freedom of speech" rights include the right to tell someone that he's full of beans.
Also, re: Imus; calling this a First Amendment-issue is specious. Imus works for a corporation. The corporation pays him to bring in listeners, more of whom will hear the advertisements in the breaks, and thus those advertisers will pay more to the corporation to air the ads. This has nothing to do with First Amendment. He can still say what he wants before and after his job, or off-the-air. But when he takes a job, he makes an agreement with the employer.
He got the job because he's good at stirring things up not because he's racist. He's got my respect for that ability. Like JT posters. Not that I agree with him or some JT posters, to add my PC disclaimer.
He has every right to stir it up as those crying foul have the right to cry foul. Most will see him as a crackpot. That's what he wants.
I enjoyed Archie Bunker but never did I think like him. He was pure entertainment to get you thinking and laughing at attitudes like that. Imus is the Archie Bunker of the radio that's all.
Imus is a sarcsatic character and if you take him literally all the time you will find all sorts of reasons to call him racist. It's amazing people cannot find other more important things to complain about. Have you ever been around black people and hear how racist they can be? I woud move on and stop playing this card time and time again. As a minority myself, it's getting old and I'm sick of it.
hey guy, who's playing this card time and time again? if anything the media is shoving this down everyone's throat or "informing the public." if majority of black people really cared about this then i think imus would need body guards. yes what he said was an offensive remark but is he racist, who knows. there is a difference between being racist and saying something racially offensive. how racist can black people be??????????
As I stated earlier, I hardly ever listen to radio. However, when I am home, I do like to listen to Spanish radio, preferable Caribbean. Now, I do hear from time to time, Tom Joyner, others who I scroll through because I do like Hip Hop when I am driving. If any of you out there ever listen to these people, you would think Imus is the right guy to bring to a Thanksgiving dinner. I do feel, especially what I hear on Spanish radio, a very double standard. Hell, even some rap lyrics are some of the most racist words one can hear, but again, it depends on who you are
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WilliB at 06:19 PM JST - 24th June
He should learn that he has the wrong colour to be racist. Or did this idiot think it is a level playing field?
Taka313 at 07:26 PM JST - 24th June
Skip, Here's the actual audio clip:
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y1sCY_Rx-Y
Taka
stanoue at 07:38 PM JST - 24th June
I don't think people's reactions to this should be cried down as mere 'political correctness' - it is unresponsible to make rash generalisations based on race in a national broadcast, I would think.
skipthesong at 07:52 PM JST - 24th June
taka, thanks, but I can't listen to it on this thing. I am not on a PC.
In either case, I think its best to be with the majority of people in these cases where not the whole thing is heard, but what the media reported it to be.
I still, to this day, never heard Imus on the radio. I just don't listen to talk radio. Is he ever on that US military one?
Madverts at 07:59 PM JST - 24th June
Don Who?
japanyesterday at 08:14 PM JST - 24th June
skipthesong, the audio clip is even worse than the reports in the news. he pretty much played dumb as if he didnt know who the race of the person in question then proceed to ask "what color is he," funny how the other guy trying to cover is arse replies with "he's african american." sure the majority like him will defend this guy with the whole amendment free speech crap as if thats what they had in mind when they it was created. he sure knows which tree to bark up though, he knows well that he'll get nothing more than a fired up al sharpton and more exposure for his show.
Taka313 at 09:14 PM JST - 24th June
Skip, I don't know if Imus is on Eagle 810 or not. Honestly, I don't listen to it. It has nothing to do with politics, my musical tastes just aren't that mainstream, therefore not really represented on the radio, as a whole. And I'm with you regarding talk radio. It's really not my thing, no matter who's doing the talking.
Taka
rjd_jr at 09:33 PM JST - 24th June
This was clearly a bigoted remark from a well known personality who should have known better in light of his past. No ifs, ands, or buts, what he said is as offensive or more so than what someone like Ishihara has said.
RomeoRamenII at 09:41 PM JST - 24th June
Skip,
Imus is now not on Eagle 810. In 2002-05 they had programmed a two-hour block at 2-4 a.m. with Imus on for the first hour and Howard Stern for the second. When Stern moved to satellite radio they dropped the format.
RR
RomeoRamenII at 09:55 PM JST - 24th June
The Imus/Sharpton conflict dates back more than 20 years to the Tawana Brawley.
As you may recall, in 1987 she was the black teenager who accused three white men, including a police officer, of kidnapping and brutally sexually assualting her. It was later determined that the allegations were spurious. Sharpton became her champion and in spite of the mounting evidence that the allegations could not be supported he continued his attacks on the system on her behalf.
Imus, along with Howard Stern, were particularly nasty in their treatment of Sharpton. At the time I was commuting from Richmond, Va., to Fort Lee everyday and followed the whole thing on the radio. While I found it all very entertaining, I doubt Sharpton did.
Sharpton was subsequently sued and held liable for an amount that I believe was $300,000 or so. I suspect that much of his animosity toward Imus is fueled more by revenge that it is for racial stereotyping.
RR
telecasterplayer at 12:00 AM JST - 25th June
Hey here's a thought: Maybe Don Imus could do what everyone else in the world does and not talk about race all the friggin' time.
I guess some seek to defend irresponsible speech with warnings of "big brother", but, the fact is that people have the right to respond. "1984" was pretty clear about "government" censorship. If one goes out of the way to declare something stupid or controversial, but then seeks to silence critics with cries of "big brother" and "censorship", is THAT person not attempting to intimidate others from speaking up? MY "freedom of speech" rights include the right to tell someone that he's full of beans.
Also, re: Imus; calling this a First Amendment-issue is specious. Imus works for a corporation. The corporation pays him to bring in listeners, more of whom will hear the advertisements in the breaks, and thus those advertisers will pay more to the corporation to air the ads. This has nothing to do with First Amendment. He can still say what he wants before and after his job, or off-the-air. But when he takes a job, he makes an agreement with the employer.
bushlover at 12:18 AM JST - 25th June
He got the job because he's good at stirring things up not because he's racist. He's got my respect for that ability. Like JT posters. Not that I agree with him or some JT posters, to add my PC disclaimer. He has every right to stir it up as those crying foul have the right to cry foul. Most will see him as a crackpot. That's what he wants.
I enjoyed Archie Bunker but never did I think like him. He was pure entertainment to get you thinking and laughing at attitudes like that. Imus is the Archie Bunker of the radio that's all.
KitsuneYoukai at 01:10 AM JST - 25th June
Imus is a sarcsatic character and if you take him literally all the time you will find all sorts of reasons to call him racist. It's amazing people cannot find other more important things to complain about. Have you ever been around black people and hear how racist they can be? I woud move on and stop playing this card time and time again. As a minority myself, it's getting old and I'm sick of it.
japanyesterday at 09:26 AM JST - 25th June
hey guy, who's playing this card time and time again? if anything the media is shoving this down everyone's throat or "informing the public." if majority of black people really cared about this then i think imus would need body guards. yes what he said was an offensive remark but is he racist, who knows. there is a difference between being racist and saying something racially offensive. how racist can black people be??????????
skipthesong at 04:30 PM JST - 25th June
As I stated earlier, I hardly ever listen to radio. However, when I am home, I do like to listen to Spanish radio, preferable Caribbean. Now, I do hear from time to time, Tom Joyner, others who I scroll through because I do like Hip Hop when I am driving. If any of you out there ever listen to these people, you would think Imus is the right guy to bring to a Thanksgiving dinner. I do feel, especially what I hear on Spanish radio, a very double standard. Hell, even some rap lyrics are some of the most racist words one can hear, but again, it depends on who you are
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