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© Copyright 2015 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.Donald Trump meets with black pastors
By JILL COLVIN NEW YORK©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Madverts
As long as Trump and his minions repeat the lies enough times there are plenty of nutters prepared to believe and propagate the lies for some strange reason.
The last time I witnessed an outburst like that it involved watching someone full of themselves doing copious amounts of cocaïne. He's off his box...
CrazyJoe
If you're not part of the 1% and you vote republican, then you are seriously being duped.
SuperLib
Will he continue doing that if he wins the White House? It might be a bit awkward for a white president to be tweeting innacurate data about blacks that make them look bad. Just sayin'.
kcjapan
Rump cannot help but be proud of representing the bigoted racism he has championed since announcing his candidacy.
Quite right. Chanting 'black lives matter' gets anyone a good kick in the pants at a Rump festival. Rump is convinced what he says is reality. And his greatest fans can't wait to start filling his concentration camps with Mexicans and Muslims.
Rump the Great is correct, it is disgusting to say anything Rump disagrees with or questions his racism. That's the America Rump wants. So, sit down, shut up and pass the ammunition. Get on board and ride the Rump all the way to racial and religious prejudice, or his fans will shoot you. The GOP Shia-Tea has spoken.
SenseNotSoCommon
The photo's 'why are we even here?' body language speaks volumes.
MarkG
........while Hillay's email plot thickens. Seems the 1%-ers have been donating while the republicans are labeled the greedy ones.
pointofview
Go Trump!
nath
What do Hillary's emails have to do with this story?
MarkG
I wonder if those black pastors know Trumps A racist as some claim. And if those black pastors are 1%-ers as trump supporters must be.
Meanwhile the 1% wants Trump dropped!
nath
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that these pastors have endorsed Trump Mark. Is that what they told you in the bubble?
crustpunker
Why does his mouth always corner like that?
Reminds me of hairpin turns in Pole Position.
MarkG
No, not at all Stranger, they were there to endorse with some having reservation. They weren't there to protest Trump as you see in your bubble. Refer to this weeks poll please..
MarkG
Obama duped them for certain. They are worse off under Obama for sure.
bass4funk
Hillary is not voting Republican or a large majority of the Hollywood elites and the geeks in Silicon Valley are they not part of the 1% crowd or is liberal 1% different from conservative 1%?
Obama did indeed say, "cocaine is helluva drug."
Black Lives Matters are thugs and these people have absolutely zero shame, the only thing they care about is what they want and how they can get it by bullying, thugging and intimidating people.
We have a president that thinks exactly in the same way.
So what other nonsense and fabricated stories does the Democrat party like spew to the public?
nath
Mark:
Whatever they're telling you in the bubble, it appears to be wrong.
But if it will get you to make trump the leader of your klan, then great! The man will never be elected president, so having him as leader just ensures a democratic win.
pointofview
@Strangerland,
Actually, many have endorsed him. Just not the group as a whole.
You are great at knowing the future. Are you a supporter of the thug politicians running? The ones who have had countless chances but have changed nothing.
Lizz
If you're not part of the 1% and you vote republican, then you are seriously being duped
And voting Democratic is different how ? Democrats now depend as much on affluent voters as on low-income voters. Democrats represent a majority of the richest congressional districts, and the party’s elected officials are more responsive to the policy agenda of the well-to-do than to average voters.Upscale voters were just as important to the Obama coalition as downscale voters. The increased importance of the affluent to Democrats means that the Democratic Party has in many respects become the party of deregulated markets as much as the Republicans.
PTownsend
The first quote was from your post, right? Do you own it? Or are you willing to change it to show that you don't spew nonsense and fabricated stories? Or are you confusing Rick James with the US president?
nath
Pointofview
Please show us something that says which ones have endorsed him.
the refugee
Steal 50 percent and give back 5. Yeah, what incredible philanthropy!
I once did some calculations on my net worth and that of Bill Gates. Gates gave several million to some charity and everyone hailed his extreme generosity. But if I gave just 25 cents I would have equaled Gate's generosity in terms of net wealth. But it seems that despite 12 years of public education and lots of math classes, people refuse to do the math on these bastards. The quarters they chuck out for the sake of their image don't compare to all they sucked up in their greed.
Laguna
Ah. So that explains why the Trump campaign scrapped plans for a high-profile press conference on following the meeting - during which no single pastor actually endorsed trump.
Trump says, “I think I’m going to do great with the African-American vote.” He also thinks he'll get Mexico to pay to build a bigger, better wall on the southern border. Frankly, how delusional the man is doesn't matter; he will never be president.
bass4funk
Oh, I know Rick said that. But Obama did indeed mention, when he was younger how he enjoyed getting high. So what's the problem? We had a peanut farmer, an actor, a former CIA director, a skirt chaser, an oil businessman and a former drug user. Indisputable facts.
Wc626
I'm no Trump fan although the fellow is very entertaining.
On the contrary, I find it equally "delusional" that illegal immigrants (who have no constitutional rights in the 1st place) are suing the state of Oregon to obtain a Drivers License.
Screw a wall. how about an electric fence with would incapacitate illegal border hoppers trying "obtain" a state issued Drivers License.
The last time I checked . . . . driving (legally on US Highways) is a privilege and not a right.
Alphaape
The fact that a group of Black ministers did meet with Trump in the open, and even talked about it shows that those who are crying racism are not telling the truth. Don't you think that if Trump had said something very negative from this meeting, it would be all over the internet and news cycle with fine point detailed analysis and the left asking for a "conversation" on race be brought up. Yet none of that is happening and those in the Democrat party who took the Black vote for granted, are probably realizing that they may not loose all the Black vote, but if Trump did manage to get at least 3-5% of the Black vote that would be more than Romney did (he got 6% of the Black vote in 2012). So a pick up of a few more Black voters would signal a shift in the Black voting base.
Remember, even if a shift of a few points for someone other than Trump would be viewed as a landslide demand for change. But if Trump sees an increase, it is scoffed off as irrelevant.
SuperLib
Why did you suddenly stop at George Bush?
pointofview
@Strangerland,
Ive only seen the footage after his meeting with the pastors. Havent looked for print.
nath
So basically you're just hoping that some of them endorsed Trump.
TheRat
Well. wC626, wouldn't that be kind of East German Stasi (Soviet) like? I mean, why not have mines? But most GOPers like you are actually closet fascists who LOVE what the Soviets did---walking a block (need to show papers), registration of your background and religion, camps for those you do not like, etc, etc, etc.
bass4funk
Just been an impregnable wall. It's not that hard to do. Isreal has one, most countries do. You have no borders, you have no country. Simple as that.
Really, but then again, you libs just want anyone and everyone to come in legal or not, drivers licenses to illegals, social security to illegals, no problem. Give free money, and free everything. This is NOT Woodstock!
Lizz
CNN broke into their regular programming to cover what turned out to be a press conference with some of the pastors at Trump Tower. No doubt they weren't expecting to hear the very positive remarks that were made. lol
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/11/30/donald-trump-black-pastors-amazing-meeting.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/
nishikat
"you libs just want anyone and everyone to come in legal or not" Reagan and 3M green card amnesty. And you say Obama was born in Kenya and is an illegal alien. If you want to believe that go ahead.
bass4funk
I know a lot of people in the media that are pulling their hair out as to how can they possibly stop this juggernaut. It just kills them that they're powerless and their attempts to smear the man is virtually ineffective. Too funny.
nishikat
Don't you give credit to Donald for his beliefs that Obama was born in Kenya?
nath
I just watched the video - no one made any comments (other than Trump) positive or otherwise. The guy beside him nodded his head a bunch.
Ineffective among Republicans.
Wc626
I merely suggested the fence should "incapacitate" illegals trying to hop the border, not blow their limbs off.
I don't care how the soviets ran East Germany during the cold war. I just don't think illegals should not be trying demand the "legal" privilege to drive and or obtain state issued drivers licenses in any of the 50 states.
Do you really think it's reasonable to issue illegals DL's? . . . . Like Bass said- this aint Woodstock.
nishikat
"Do you really think it's reasonable to issue illegals DL's?" Visa overstayers?
pointofview
@Strangerland,
There are some confirmations and more may come later. Some were confirmed. No joke.
nath
That may be true - so lets see them. Right now I've heard a lot of speculation, but haven't seen anything to confirm it.
Wc626
What do visa overstayers have to do with illegal immigrants demanding state issued DL's?
These people cannot even speak English and want to drive on US Highways? Its insane.
These people drive without automobile (required by state law) insurance . . . It's complete nonsense nishikat.
nishikat
"What do visa overstayers have to do with illegal immigrants demanding state issued DL's?" Lots of people who are non-citizens get their DL, buy cars, and get insurance- in any country. They don't just hop over the fence and head to the local DMV. It's not that simple. I can't just come to Japan and say "gimmie a license"
"I'm no Trump fan" Then you should like Obama since (1) illegal immigration is reversing (Quote- J. Bush- another Republican) and (2) deportations are up at record levels. Most cases are overstays anyway.
Under Reagan he inked 3M amnesty.
"These people cannot even speak English" I don't speak Japanese and I can drive fine here. This is a world issue.
"Screw a wall" Airports?
nishikat
"Are you "legally" residing in Japan? Do you pay all the proper fees and insurance?" What do you think?
"These people drive without automobile (required by state law) insurance . . . It's complete nonsense nishikat." Insurance is about the car, not the driver. You can't get a tag without insurance. Once you stop payment on insurance the company reports and your license get suspended if you don't answer and sort it out.
"acquire automobile insurance" let me confirm, you need insurance to get a license? Or is it to have a car on the road? Two different things. You drive without the tag then it's just a matter of time before you are pulled over and busted. Illegals actually drive very carefully because they know the risk if they are pulled over even with insurance.
I would be annoyed if I had to prove I was an American citizen every time I had to renew my DL. I don't worry about illegals being on the same road as me. I or anyone I know has never been hit by one, nor do I expect it to ever happen.
Wc626
Well then, glad we agree.
"Illegal immigrants" have absolutely NO RIGHT to sue the state of Oregon (or any of the other 49 states). Simply because the state's Department Of Motor Vehicles (DMV) refuses to "Lawfully" issue them state DL'S.
Case closed.
Lizz
That may be true - so lets see them. Right now I've heard a lot of speculation, but haven't seen anything to confirm it.
The two pressers I know of with black pastors were the one yesterday at Trump Tower plus one he held in Oct in Georgia before a rally. It isn't hard to find confirmation, there are probably 15-20 youtube channels with various degrees of coverage if anyone is interested. :)
nishikat
"These people drive without automobile (required by state law) insurance" No, they don't.
bass4funk
Isn't it amazing, how radical and delusional the left have become. In California boot licking Jerry Brown...as to how this man could be elected twice is beyond any comprehension wants to give illegals drivers licenses. Just imagine doing this in any other country?! It would never, ever happen. It's no wonder people are leaving California in massive numbers. Blacks overwhelmingly understand this and realize the president doesn't care about his core constituents, he only cares about himself and his party and if that means allowing illegals to come in and run amok, keep the border open, then that's what he'll do, Dems don't care about security, they just care about their party. That is another reason why you see so many Blacks concerned and interested in Trump.
Wc626
Exactly. Here in Japan, you get deported. You would never be able "to apply" for a drivers license in the first place if not legally residing here. Japan has the "right" solution for visa over-stayers and foreigners who commit crimes in this country.
nath
Nah, I looked, nothing exists. None of them endorsed Trump.
nath
I knew an overstayer about a decade ago who had a legal license.
PTownsend
@Lizz
Here's the coverage I found. If you have different info, please provide a link.
http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2015/12/black_evangelical_leaders_decl.html
nishikat
"These people drive without automobile (required by state law) insurance"
This just shows that some people are worried about nothing. Of course there is a certain percentage of people on the road who don't have insurance. But basically a car cannot be driven and cannot get a tag if it is not insured by anyone illegal or otherwise. Even if an illegal is driving that car itself is still more than likely insured. And they drive very carefully in order not to get stopped and perhaps deported. More illegals driving means less accidents.
pointofview
@Strangerland,
Take a harder look.
nath
I just found a video where the pastors say that none of them endorsed Trump. It's there if you exist. So you're wrong. My video 'trumps' yours (pun intended).
pointofview
@Strangerland,
Actually, there are.
nath
No there aren't. I told you, I found a video where each and every one of them said they don't endorse Trump. It's there if you search for it.
PTownsend
Aren't you one of the posters banging on and on about democracy? In a democracy, a political leader is elected by a majority of the voters. If Gov Brown was elected, that must mean more people approved of him than didn't, putting people like you, assuming you voted, in the minority, perhaps a fringe minority. Perhaps you are out of touch with public sentiment in the US or perhaps reality? A good book I can recommend is 'Imagined Communities' by B. Johnson.
Regarding democracy and the US Constitution, if you check you'll find that there is zero reference to democracy in the document. In your pledge of allegiance you pledge allegiance to a flag that stands for...?
Wc626
Yeah nishikat. You're right. But that doesn't stop illegals from driving on US Highways.
Accidents will happen regardless. Those "illegals" should be driving highways in their own country. If they drive US Highways, then (like everyone else) they'd better have valid DMV license and documents in order.
nishikat
"But that doesn't stop illegals from driving on US Highways." And.....? How does that inconvenience me? They buy gas and pay for road tax.
" they'd better have valid DMV license and documents in order." OK, and.....? If the car they are driving is not registered and insured properly it will be stopped by a cop in no time when the invalid tag is spotted. In fact there is technology now (or at least be available in the near future) that allows cop cars to be scanning license plates as they drive by and around other cars.
Again, nothing to worry about from the worry of illegals driving around.
pointofview
@nishikat,
Again, nothing to worry about from the worry of illegals driving around.
Except that they are illegal and shouldn`t have a license to begin with.
nishikat
So we confirm the safety risk to Americans is quite low from illegals driving on the street. In fact they drive more carefully than real Americans.
If you simply don't like something then go ahead. Feel free to dislike something all you want.
pointofview
@nishikat,
Your point has no weight as they shouldn`t be driving anyway if they are illegal immigrants. You are being an apologist.
nishikat
I don't care either way. It doesn't cost me anything.
Wc626
nishikat. You'd prob be okay with no ID checks when minors attempt to purchase booze. Or a guy who lost his passport at an international airport, "Just let him in", you'd say. That would be nonsense wouldn't it?
"Oh & by the way, here is a DL and a registered vehicle to take on the highway. You're in Amereica baby!!"
LoL. No wonder why everybody & their mother wants to come in.
nishikat
"and a registered vehicle to take on the highway." The US government gives illegals free cars?
Wc626
Naw, but you'd prob be okay with that too. Full tank of gas too & "free parking".
Yes they do. Seen it dozens & dozens of times. Worse, their "illegal" kids get free lunch at school. But, I still love america.
nishikat
"Seen it dozens" No, you haven't. Because I haven't seen it once were I could confirm it. You are making this up. Just like your story about illegals getting free insured cars (where do they do that). Or that you have 100% verifiable proof Obama was born in Kenya.
bass4funk
Yup and there is also a reason why people in California with any reasonable logical sense and a functioning cerebral cortex are moving in mass numbers out of a one beautiful state to leave the madness of what has become a safe haven for hippies, progressives, silicon valley geeks and Hollyweird of course. Also, how many of the voters are millennials, first time voters, most don't know anything about politics, except when someone tells them on a college campus to vote Democrat, you can get FREE stuff and they care about you. One more thing, you have about 5 to 10,000 people leaving in a month for the past few years now. They can keep their insanity, illegals, extreme high cost of living, out of control taxes, and high crime rate. Those are the people that wanted that kind of democracy, fine by me, but that doesn't mean, the rest of the sane people have to live that way or put up with it and thousands don't.
Sure, I am out of touch with Unicorn paisley progressive values where people suffer from an incurable fluctuation of micro-aggresions, definitely not for me.
Your conflating the issue, I would never pledge my loyalty and faith towards anyone that wants to destroy the country and this president in 7 years has done a tremendous job at it and we still have 342 more days left. Why do you think more and more Blacks are supporting Trump? They know that the illegals coming in freely into the country is putting them out of work and Blacks have the highest unemployment rate in the country and they know the more illegals come in, get housing and will get cheaper labor many more Blacks will be out of a job. No thanks to this president. God help us all.
nishikat
"Yes they do. Seen it dozens & dozens of times." Tell me more about this. They were pulled over?