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DXXJP
I have some names for him and has-been isnt on the list.
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Sarge
Why would the Democrat-controlled Semate vote to deny Obama's request for $80 million to close Gitmo?
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Wolfpack
President Obama is more likely to be the has-been and soon enough. Cheney is simply saying what has to be said; that words have meaning and saying your going to save the world without a clue as to how you are going to do it - as Obama obviously cannot figure out now that he is president - is dangerous. Cheney makes the point that brining the terrorists from Gitmo to the US makes no sense what-so-ever. The new prison will automatically become the new Gitmo and will only make it likely that at least some of the terrorists will be releases by some left wing federal judge put on the bench by Carter or Clinton. Although he hasn't submitted his plan to Congress yet, Obama seems to be hinting that he wants to keep about 100 or the hard cases in indefinite detention. Well, isn't that why Gitmo was being pilloried by the lefty journalists in the American and international press? The base at Gitmo was easily defended and not much of a targer for terrorists. Moving them to a prison in the US makes America an ever more enticing target. Obama is naive and his policies are a threat to national security. I hope that Cheny does not let up on Obama's simplistic thinking on Gitmo and the problem of dealing with terrorism in general.
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buddha4brains
Sarge pay attention. The question of where to put the prisoners has not been resolved, so they said no. That's what happens in a democracy... you should read up on it.
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Beelzebub
Mr. Cheney realizes there are prosecutors breathing down his neck and it's pretty obvious he thinks the best defence is to go on the attack.
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zurcronium
Cheney is a full on loser, war criminal and corporate corruption jockey. What he says makes no sense and has no real impact other than to excite the weaker members of US society, the ones who are still looking for WMD in Iraq. The ones who think that Saddam flew the planes on 9-11. The ones that think that the economy is in the US is just peachy. The deluded and the deadenders. Those folks will buy the book that cheney has written up, he is currently shopping his book contract around to find the highest bidder.
So you realists out there, mostly you liberals, realize that cheney is simply selling books. He does not nor has not ever cared about american security, if he did he would have read the CIA memos about OBL attacking the US. He was too busy at the time rigging the energy market for his Enron buddy Ken Lay and others to pay attention to the coming attack. Bush and Cheney let 9-11 happen on their watch, they have no credibility at all on security. Zero. Republicans just care about the money, the country and the voters are of no matter to them. The GIs, just cannon fodder for their oil wars to supply Exxon and others.
Can you handle the truth, I doubt it.
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yabits
Cheney's a joke. Soon enough, he'll be a joke that isn't funny any more.
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Sarge
"What he ( Cheney ) says makes no sense"
You don't listen very carefully to what he says, do you?
"Cheney's a joke"
Obama doesn't think so.
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teleprompter
Somebody has to be president, since Obama appears to believe he's still campaigning for the job.
And since he has basically adopted all of Bush's positions on matters of national security, who better to school him than Dick Cheney.
I'm lovin it!
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LIBERTAS
Obama deserves Cheney's silence, as a matter of courtesy. But that's not the Dickster's strong point, now, is it?
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teleprompter
More laughs. People like zurcronium were telling us only months ago that Cheney ("Deadeye Dick" har har har) would like, totally have to flee to Dubai !! on or before Jan 21 of this year.
And yet here is our aged ex vice president - bad ticker and all - looking more presidential in some respects than the former community organizer now residing in the White House.
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SezWho2
LIBERTAS,
No that's not Cheney's strongpoint. He really does not believe in the peaceful transfer of power. It seems to me that it is discourtesy for the outgoing administration to mount a campaign against the incoming. The Constitution doesn't forbid this of course, but it is bad form.
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JoeBigs
LOL!!!!! You have said some WHOPPERS in the past, but this one show how desperate you far right wingers really are!!!LOL
You far right wingers are so bloody desperate to find a John Wayne that you have jumped overboard!!!LOL
Four months ago most far right wingers were hoping that the whole mess known as the Bush Administration would just simply disappear. Now you guys are hailing herr Cheney as the second coming of Reagan! Man can you be that desperate?LOL
The only reason you guys are dancing around the bonfire and singing Cheney's name is because he is all you have left, a 68 year old, former number 2 of possibly the worst administration since Hoover, oh how bloody sad!.......
You guys are so bloody lucky that the Reverend Song Young Moon owns the Washington Times. Because if that far right wing nut-bag convicted felon did not, you guys would be already dead!
This shows how far the far right has come in it's desperation in finding who or what it stand for. That in itself is too sad and I feel for you...LOL Well not that much....
In the words of the sports broadcaster Don Meredith,"Turn out the lights, the party's over" I think the far right religious right that controls the Republican party is in the last throes, in a few more months it will be, dead!......LOL
I just love the way you guys jump on any bus that hits the brakes fast enough!!!!LOL
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yabits
Wait JoeBigs....
I'm still laughing at Cheney's looney claim that the VP wasn't actually part of the executive branch of government.
Can you imagine the conservative reaction if such a looney claim came from a Democrat?
"Stick a fork in him; he's done."
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teleprompter
He's so "done" he has upstaged our rookie president and the dingbat Pelosi.
Where's Joe "I Forgot the Internet Number" Biden?
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cleo
It's testimony to the bankruptcy of the US political/justice machine that the warmongers are able to carry on as normal. Nothing at all to crow about, rather a reason for every American to hang their head in shame.
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teleprompter
Can you repost in German?
No?
You're welcome.
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Sarge
SezWho2: "He ( Cheney ) really does not believe in the peaceful transfer of power"
That must be why he congratulated Barack Obama and Joe Biden on their victory.
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buddha4brains
Yeah, he did it sitting down with a faux sore back. He just did not have the spine to stand up and accept the GOP defeat like a man (a reprise of his Vietnam days?), particularly to a black man.
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Sarge
"Yeah, he did it sitting down with a faux sore back"
Said by someone who has never experienced back pain, apparently. The man was in a wheelchair that day, sheesh.
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teleprompter
Hilarious, the way the Lefties project even their racism onto conservatives.
Cheney's party is Lincoln's party,the party of Martin Luther King.
It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and who sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools.
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SushiSake3
One of former Vice President Cheney's strong points is he doesn't know when to shut up.
But that's great, because the more he talks, the more Conservatives he will drive into the Democratic (or other parties) folds.
The most hilarious thing about Cheney is the admiration of his followers - for a 5-time serial draft dodger who never had the guts to go fight for his nation in battle.
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SushiSake3
Did anyone see Cheney's speech?
Scowling, fear-mongering, insulting, angry, visceral rage - all key characteristics of top officials in the trashed bush adminstration.
So much anger, so much bitterness. Almost not human.
Cheney used the word "attack" 19 times,, "danger" and "threat" 6 times each, and "911" 27 times.
Hate-filled scaremongering, nothing less.
He even accused The New York Times of "aiding al-Qaida"! LOL!!!
Who cares about Cheney?
Obama is viewed favorably by about 60% of the public.
Cheney? A bumbling 25%.
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SushiSake3
One thing I couldn't help notice about the past 8 years is the devotees of Bush and Cheney. These followers have become bitter, angry, angry, angry, combatative, angry people who never let reality or facts get in the way of a high-velocity rant.
A disturbing level of emotional rage has been created in Bush/Cheney followers by a campaign of ongoing, repetitive spin that has created strawmen that have never existed, enemies that are far more dangerous than they really are, and a level of deep-seated anger that I believe has not been seen in America for decades.
If you don't believe this, just look at pretty much every post written by teleprompter.
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UnagiDon
SushiSake3;
I have to disagree with you on this point. Such devotees did not become "bitter, angry, angry, angry, combatative, angry people who never let reality or facts get in the way of a high-velocity rant.", they were like that to begin with.
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SushiSake3
teleprompter - "And yet here is our aged ex vice president - bad ticker and all - looking more presidential in some respects than the former community organizer now residing in the White House."
LOL! teleprompter seems to have completely missed the fact that it was Candidate Obama's community organizer skills that were fundamental in creating the most efficient vote-getting political campaign machine ever seen in U.S. politics.
How else did a new, young black candidate come out of nowhere and not just put down the Clinton Machine but snuff out the entire GOP? OK, the small town hicks and bumbling OAP the GOP threw into the mix and under the bus didn't help their cause, ha ha.
Heh, teleprompter's clearly still smarting from the crushing defeat the GOP suffered last Novemmber. :-)
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yabits
1957? The often two-faced, split-personality nature of the Republican Party as evidenced by the vast difference between an Eisenhower and a Dick Nixon -- or to put this back on topic, a Colin Powell and a Dick Cheney -- is quite interesting to behold.
The Republican Party of the late 20th century that ultimately felt it had to apologize to African-Americans for the "southern strategy" of the late 1960s to the 1980s -- a period when folks like Dick Cheney benefitted from the strategy.
It was teleprompter who said that moderate African-Americans like Powell "should be" members of the Democratic Party, since they can't get behind the new Republican "leaders" like has-been Cheney and Rush Limbaugh. (To which this liberal says, "Amen!")
After all, it was the Democratic Party of 2008 which resoundlingly nominated an African-American to be its standard-bearer, and thus put this nation back on track after a has-been like Cheney. In a decade or two, teleprompter will be telling folks that it was the Republicans, by turning to losers and has-beens as their leaders, who were responsible for putting the first black man in the White House.
And there is some truth to that....
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yabits
Cheney simply reverted to his Halliburton CEO-mode.
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SushiSake3
buddha4brains - "He just did not have the spine to stand up and accept the GOP defeat like a man."
You referred to Cheney and 'man' in the same sentence????
That's just insulting to the rest of us males of the species. :-)
If Cheney had been a real man, he wouldn't have got 5 deferrments to the Vietnam war. He would have packed his gear with the rest of the GIs and shipped out.
Turned out he didn't have the spine. No, he copped out like the loser he was then, and frankly, nothing has changed. Cheney is still a loser.
But he's still worshipped by people like teleprompter, although I notice Sarge isn't exactly wildly enthused by the old guy.
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yabits
Biden, for all his gaffes, is not so far off the scale that he doesn't know he's a member of the executive branch of government.
Cheney actually thought he was his own special branch. He was *special" alright.
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SushiSake3
Another telling point is - none of the GOP supporters on this board who so vehemently support Cheney have ever seen a bullet fired in anger in a war zone.
Sarge? Who am I kidding? (But Sarge is going to come back with an 'I served!!!")
Teleprompter? ha ha ha ha ha.....
This IS an issue, and here's why: these people - just like Cheney - have never been in a war, but are more than happy when someone else's kid/ father/mother/daughter goes off to battle to protect American's freedoms.
How can you take someone like that seriously?
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SushiSake3
It's a spade. Let's call it a spade.
Let's get real here - **Cheney is a coward **who never had the guts or the spine to stand up and fight for his country when it needed men like him.
He has been instrumental in turning the once-great, once globally respected America into an international laughing stock and one of the most hated nations on Earth.
[--> cue to sit back and watch as the GOP supporters come back on this one and start attacking "foreigners" because we "foreigners" don't know Americans and American politics like they do and are therefore NOT! entitled to voice their opinion on an international forum like Japan Today, :-)
That's just Cheney. Now look at the people who strenuously come out in support of the former Vice President.
See any differences? Any at all?
Heh, that's my point. :-)
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WilliB
Sushi:
You are descibing Obamas speech.
Cheenys (alsmost simultaneous) speech was topical, well-reasoned, and showed the naivitee of Obamas platitutes.
Case in point: While Obama "categorically rejects" that waterboarding Khalid Sheik Mohammed saved lives, he refuses to publish the protocols.
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Nessie
Not a has-been. A never-should-have-been.
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cleo
America has never needed men like Dick Cheney.
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SushiSake3
WillB - "You are descibing Obamas speech."
Funny comeback.
Thanks. :-)
Interesting to note - as another poster stated above - that Cheney is doing everything in his power to stay out of the courts. He'll need everything in his power.
And again, he is doing what he does best - lie, deflect, deceipt - classic Cheney. That's why the GOP supporters love him - one of their own. :-)
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SushiSake3
Dick Cheney is the abject failure that patriotic Americans love to hate, and the lying, sleazy, lowlife the Republicans just idolize.
Everything makes sense except why anybody is actually still listening to him. How was he polling when he exited?
8 percent?
Oh. Dear. :-)
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teleprompter
Yeah. That would explain why he was appointed to serve in three different administrations: Chief of Staff under Ford, Sec of Defense under Bush Sr. (The senate confirmed the choice by a vote of 92 to 0), and VP under Bush Jr, in addition to his short stint as House Minority Whip.
Like the rest of the int'l Left you don't have a clue.
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teleprompter
That's rich, coming from sushisake, still too ashamed to say what Commonwealth nation it is he hails from.
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SushiSake3
teleprompter - "That's rich, coming from sushisake, still too ashamed to say what Commonwealth nation it is he hails from."
teleprompter, honest question: do you have an inferiority complex towards other countries? It seems to rear its head every time someone points the finger at your country.
teleprompter - "Like the rest of the int'l Left you don't have a clue."
ha ha, don't worry, there's my answer. You just proved me right. :-)
Some of us are mature enough to deal with other peoples' views when they differ from ours.
Others, however.....
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Taka313
What a silly story.
Why would anyone want to call dick cheney a "has-been."
"dick" is so right on so many levels.
Taka
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SezWho2
Sarge,
Whether Cheney congratulated Obama on his victory or not has nothing to do with whether he believes in the peaceful transfer of power. "One may smile, and smile, and be a villain." True in Shakespeare's fictional Denmark. True in our present-day USA.
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DXXJP
And for all of dicks babbling ( more like charlie browns teacher talking) his own party Buddie differs with dicks views.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aF2IBw3gSLOg&refer=home
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Sarge
"dick" is so right on so many levels"
Stay classy, Taka313.
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JoeBigs
As stated before, if the far right only has Cheney speaking that means the far right is almost dead....No one other than a has-been who has no respect outside of his neocon circle is able to speak right now. Is that sad?
No one under the age of 65 is willing to go out on a limb like this has-been. If anyone other than a has-been would speak out they would be done as politicians, that is why Cheney is the one speaking out. He has nothing to lose by being the sounding board for the rest of his dead party.
Real sad, the far right is so lost that they do not know who they are. The far right is searching for who they are and they will cling to the first person who speaks laud enough, this month it is Cheney.
It is but a matter of time before they follow someone else. Maybe the far right can ask the felon Rev Sun Myung Moon for advice on this matter, he is their biggest supporter.
That one gave me a laugh this morning, almost as good as when Teleprompter goes off on one of his rants!!!LOL
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teleprompter
Obama's administration will never, never resort to waterboarding!
No, "interrogation" will also be outsourced -
May 24 2009 NY Times: U.S. Relies More on Aid of Allies in Terror Cases
"The United States is now relying heavily on foreign intelligence services to capture, interrogate and detain all but the highest-level terrorist suspects seized outside the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan, according to current and former American government officials."
Rest assured though - foreign gov'ts never resort to enhanced interrogation as brutal as having a little water splashed on a suspect's face, or depriving captured terrorists of a little sleep.
Nah, it's only in America...
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Taka313
One thing I believe the entire dick cheney and family all over the news proves, is that the myth of the "liberal media" is just that.
If the media is as liberal as some of our conspiracy theorists would have us think, why would they allow dick cheney the forum to express his misguided opinions? Better yet, why would they allow cheney's daughter, someone even further removed from a position of importance, a forum to defend dick?
I would think the liberal media would shut them out, yet it seems like they have a standing invite to spout nonsense.
I look forward to the rationalization for that.
Thanks sarge. Just for you, I will continue to remain classy.
Taka
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JoeBigs
Good point Taka313 on why Cheney has been given a soapbox to stand on by the far right media. If it were not for the far right media then he would be treated as any loon has-been should be with a cold shoulder.
But with the media today owned by the likes of the
Rev. Sun Myung Moon He owns, UPI, Washington Times, Middle East Times and other smaller outlets.
Rupert Murduch Owns the following news outlets in the United States; The New York Post, The Wall Street Journal, Barron's, Marketwatch, The Timesledger Newspapers, The Courier-Life Newspapers in Brooklyn, The Brooklyn Paper, Caribbean Life, The Times-Herald Record, The Weekly Standard , FOX News, if I put his full control it would fill too many pages.
Other Right wing media groups...
Clear Channel Communications
Talon News (Cheney has many close friends here)
American radio network (used to be ABC radio before Citadel Media bought it)
These are just a few right wingers that have given Cheney his soup box.
Anyone that believes that the media is owned by the liberals is falling for the lie. If you are told lies long enough you will begin to believe them.
Most far right wingers would not know what to do if they heard non-neo con news.
Sad how silly folks believe the lies........
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teleprompter
Right on, Joe Bigs. As an independent I have to agree - You can't trust "right wingers."
So let's go with the Left's well-known refrain when investigating policy or political acts they regard as "unfair" - "Just follow the money!"
Political donations, 2008 presidential elections:
NBC, NBC Universal: $104,184 to Democrats / $3,150 to Republicans
CBS: $45,508 to Dems / $966 to Republicans
ABC: $17,320 to Dems/ $4,717 to Republicans
[...]
Reuters: $10,745 to Democrats/ $3,450 to Republicans
Washington Post, Newsweek: $4,268 to Democrats/ $0 to Republicans
New York Times, NYT Co: $8,143 to Democrats/ $0 to Republicans
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/big_media_puts_its_money_where.html
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sailwind
Taka,
About the Media, Ask and you shall recieve(and you'll get quite the chuckle, most of this so true).
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=228041&title=american-idealogues
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JoeBigs
Forgot to mention, looked a bit more and lo and behold Cheney is looking for a book deal out of this whole scream fest.
Show me the money yells Dick!
Teleprompter, you should never let anyone tell you what to think or what to believe. I rather find the facts out for myself. If you want facts they are out there, here is one place to do the research....
http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php
The site will give you names and the amount of their donations...
BTW, you should have read your own source a bit more. It clearly tells you that the companies did not give the money (like you claimed) but employees did.
To imply that all those major corporation are giving money to the Democrats is stretching the facts a bit.....But stretching the facts is a standard Far Right wing tactic. Same thing that Cheney is doing right now, stretching the facts.....LOL
Facts are one hell of a thing........
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Madverts
Was-been?
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presto345
Oh. Aha. What was his first name again?
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Sarge
taka313: "I would think the liberal media would shut them out, yet it seems like they have a standing invite to spout nonsense"
So now we have taka313 complaining that that the liberal media reports Cheney's comments, ha ha ha!
"dick"
Stay classy, taka.
Sarge
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Taka313
As are questions.
I asked a couple of them about apples and in return, I get two people screaming oranges in my ear.
Amazing.
Taka
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Taka313
sarge,
You are repeating yourself.
But, again, thank you for the compliment on the state of my being. I shall continue to remain classy, not only for you, but for everyone.
Taka
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ultradodgy
HAS BEEN.
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SebastianFlyte
Dick C. is a HAS BEEN. Already 68, not long to go for him. Sooner the better.
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