Monday May 28, 2012

John, Elizabeth Edwards separate after 30 years

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    dontknockit

    So why the separation? Some will think its an easy question. Its not. This is because Elizabeth Edwards is not you. She is very much the politician's wife, and when she speaks and acts, it is so often with a political angle.

    It might be simply because he had a mistress, sure. But it might also be because she did not get to be first lady and John has no hope of delivering now. Another possible reason is that she is sick of all this media attention.

    He also claims that the married couple sought to politicize her cancer diagnosis.

    They were not the only ones. It sort of backfired on the Edwardses though.

    She said in an interview with The Associated Press last week that her health got worse for a period but has been recently improving.

    Glad to see she is better....now that the election is over!

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    adaydream

    Most of us saw it coming. John Edwards screwed up and played around on his wife, Elizabeth. John Edwards got another woman pregnant, talk about irresponsibility and lack of maturity. Getting another woman pregnant while being married, while running for President of the United States.

    Elizabeth has been so respectful of John through this whole thing. When interviewed she always stood behind him and in the end he lied still more and more to her.

    At one time I looked at John Edwards as a very viable candidate. Was I ever wrong. < :-)

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    WhiteHawk

    Was I ever wrong. < :-)

    Did anybody feel that? I think the earth just stopped.

    Just kidding, Alan, just kidding.

    My only surprise is that this separation didn't happen years ago.

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    dontknockit

    And lets not neglect to take the timing of this announcement into consideration. Right on the heels of John admitting paternity, Elizabeth dumps him. So, after waiting so long after finding out about the affair, it looks like she could handle the affair. I would not be surprised if John went against her wishes in admitting paternity, which was definitely the right thing for John to do.

    John Edwards got another woman pregnant, talk about irresponsibility and lack of maturity.

    Interesting choice of words. Irresponsibility is definitely a possibility, but secondary to the actual required skill set. But I am not sure how a lack of maturity factors into causing an accidental pregnancy. It seems to me the fundamental problem was a lack of control of the situation, something which takes willpower and knowledge, and if you have them but don't use them it would be irresponsiblity. I cannot say which of those John lacked.

    However, there is a huge possibility that we must consider. I have heard that professional athletes are told to flush condoms down the toilet. Reason being that a gold-digging or baby hungry woman can fish that thing right out of the garbage and use it to get pregnant. Again, this would be a lack of knowledge on John's part.

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    Odogma

    I know I would feel like a complete tool if I had ever believed John Edwards had what it took to make a good president. It's somewhat reassuring to see that so many Democrats in America can at least admit they are prone to idealizing the candidates their party produces. Edwards obviously isn't the only bigtime Democrat being reappraised...

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    Odogma

    Who are these people?

    "Once Elizabeth was diagnosed with cancer ... within 12 hours they were openly talking about how her cancer prognosis was going to help them in the polls," Young told ABC News' Bob Woodruff in an exclusive interview.

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    dontknockit

    Odogma: I know I would feel like a complete tool if I had ever believed John Edwards had what it took to make a good president.

    I am having major trouble trying figure out what that whole post had to do with the story. I think it pretty safe to say that Elizabeth is not leaving John because she now thinks he doesn't "have what it takes" to president.

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    adaydream

    Correct dontknockit, she's leaving because he's a complete dork. She's leaving because he's the biggest liar since george bush. She's leaving before she has to lose one more night sleep worrying about whether John loves her or he's out screwing somebody new.

    It ain't got a thing to do with whether he'd make a good president. < :-)

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    cracaphat

    Politicizing every little angle for cheap points some people do of that scandal clean political persuasion.Petty.

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    dontknockit

    adaydream: Correct dontknockit, she's leaving because he's a complete dork.

    Hey, you are the guy who was talking about maturity earlier, right?

    She's leaving because he's the biggest liar since george bush.

    The yardstick by which you measure lies must be a lot different than mine. Lies about love and sex are small. Lies that get people robbed and dead are huge. That is how my yardstick works. And since all presidents lie, I prefer he lie about the small stuff. And so, I find no reason why John Edwards was no longer presidential material after his affair was found out. In fact, the list of presidents who had affairs is quite long, and goes back to the Founding Fathers. They lied to, and the public deserved to be lied to.

    She's leaving before she has to lose one more night sleep worrying about whether John loves her or he's out screwing somebody new.

    If love and screwing are one in the same, I hope you don't love your mother and father! It may take someone of your age with an ingrained plebian mindset some time to understand this, but, in fact, love and screwing are like cake and ice cream-- great separate but wonderful together. If you always expect both, you may be a spoiled brat. But if you always get one but not the other, you really should do something about that. And if you know anything of Elizabeth Edwards you might suspect that John was not getting one.

    It ain't got a thing to do with whether he'd make a good president.

    Well, you brought it up.

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    dontknockit

    cracaphat: Politicizing every little angle for cheap points some people do of that scandal clean political persuasion.Petty.

    If only the public would stop being such immature suckers, the politicians and their wives might stop doing that.

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    Odogma

    The opinion that 'I would feel like a complete tool if I had ever believed John Edwards had what it took to make a good president' was not for John Edwards' wife.

    It was for people like you, dontknockit.

    It was for those who believed Edwards would have made a good president.

    He fooled a lot of people - people like you, dontknockit.

    The myth that the American media is hopelessly biased is no myth, dontknockit.

    They tried to cover for him.

    They wouldn't touch the Rielle Hunter story.

    That scandal was finally made public by the freakin National Enquirer.

    The mainstream media should hang their heads in shame.

    And voters like you, dontknockit, should also hang your heads in shame.

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    dontknockit

    Odogma: The opinion that 'I would feel like a complete tool if I had ever believed John Edwards had what it took to make a good president' was not for John Edwards' wife.

    Then it has nothing to do with the story and neither did the rest of that post. This is about Elizabeth leaving Edward you know?

    And no I was not fooled by Edwards. I had not made up my mind if he would make a good president or not. I still haven't. All I know is, its really dumb to base the decision on his sex life. It is quite possible that if we knew everything about Elizabeth, we would all pat John on the back. She might be the most awful wife imaginable. But we don't we know, so no sense being all judgemental.

    And not touching the Rielle Hunter story I would see as an act of restraint. Its neither here not there and none of our business. The National Enquirer is the shame and anyone defending that trash should hang their heads in shame.

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    adaydream

    More will be coming out about this wife cheater. There is a tape and a conference call where John Edwards was conspiring to keep the affair and child out of the view of the world. Andrew Young and wife, Rielle (sp) and Edwards had conversations and planning meetings and this is on tape. If John Edwards was such and honorable person he wouldn't be trying to hide this. He'd be a stand up guy and accept it all. But no he's been sliding around like a snake trying to hide his indiscressions (sp).

    Has he come back to the US from Haiti, yet? Has be brought his head above the ground or is he still in hiding? < :-)

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    dontknockit

    adaydream: If John Edwards was such and honorable person he wouldn't be trying to hide this.

    He is no longer trying to hide this. And such as it is its political suicide. Its not a matter of honor or not that he ever tried to hide it. Its a matter of the stakes. That you cannot see that tells me that you have no sense of priority. It also tells me that you live a fairy tale land where women can do no wrong. There are two women here and either one might bear the lion's share of the blame for this. If Elizabeth was frigid even before her cancer I would blame her squarely. If Rielle was fishing used condoms out of the trash it would explain John's disbelief about paternity and I would blame her squarely. Or do you truly think that women can do no wrong and should be given the benefit of whatever doubt is caused by their not being the ones in the spotlight?

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    adaydream

    I enjoy reading how you support John Edwards infidelity and blame Elizabeth and Rielle for it. Wow.

    Bye. < :-)

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    michaelqtodd

    Edwards is getting hammered right now on 20/20.Many expressions of shock about just how bad he and Young are

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